I don't get it. Maybe because I am not a fan (of current country) and that is why it sticks out more. But damned if this year, they seemed to have most of the performance time and a huge number of presenters. Were there any rap performances (not counting HOV) or rnb perfs other than Frank Ocean? Am I the only one thinking this?

It may not seem like it but country music people buy albums more than any other genre... even today

Hell look at Lionel he went country and got his first number album since Dancing On The Ceiling!

So i would say that has a lot of play into that plus a lot of country stars were nominated for big grammy awards.

It did seem that Carrie Underwood performed a lot sunday though

I know, but it just smacks of favoritisim. I mean, worldwide, how popular is country music? Isn't rap more popular?

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Since it's television, I would assume that whatever is broadcast gets the most viewers. From when I used to watch it, there were categories that didn't get shown at all like best Hawaiian, best classical, or best zydeco. Those are not well known in the mainstream, so I guess people would turn the channel if those were shown. Country music has 2 or 3 award shows on network television that only feature it, and there's none for other types of music. The award shows for other genres are either syndicated or on cable/satelite. So that says to me that country is really popular with a general audience.

scriptgirl said:

I know, but it just smacks of favoritisim. I mean, worldwide, how popular is country music? Isn't rap more popular?

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The Grammys is not a worldwide thing, so it doesn't really matter how popular country is in another country. Different countries have their own music award show like the Juno.

Gunsnhalen said:

Hell look at Lionel he went country and got his first number album since Dancing On The Ceiling!

Darius Rucker from Hootie also has some later day country music popularity. He released a neo-soul record before the country ones and it didn't do much, just like the R&B/pop records Lionel put out in the last few years hasn't.

Back in the day you were lucky if you saw one Country performance during the Grammy's. Its called the old picking order, however is on top receives the more props... as far a the Grammy's goes.

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Because nothin out of the ordinary is gonna happen performance wise. No special effects, they are gonna perform with their band and that's it.

You never know what you're gonna get with a rock, pop, r&b or hip-hop performance. Fight might break out, tity my fly out, might decide to break their equipment on stage and cost a lot to put together.

MS Trina, how long ago was this?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Because nothin out of the ordinary is gonna happen performance wise. No special effects, they are gonna perform with their band and that's it.

You never know what you're gonna get with a rock, pop, r&b or hip-hop performance. Fight might break out, tity my fly out, might decide to break their equipment on stage and cost a lot to put together.

A fight? It's the Grammys, not the Source Awards.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Because nothin out of the ordinary is gonna happen performance wise. No special effects, they are gonna perform with their band and that's it.

You never know what you're gonna get with a rock, pop, r&b or hip-hop performance. Fight might break out, tity my fly out, might decide to break their equipment on stage and cost a lot to put together.

A fight? It's the Grammys, not the Source Awards.

Aye, it could happen. It's always a possibility if you have Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy in the crowd.

Hell, Chris Brown and Frank Ocean could have came to blows this past Sunday.

Rick Ross is too fat to fight. Plus, he could have a seizure if he started mess.

Well problem is now there are too many labels in music, not music labels, labels people put on music. People think we have a huge diversity in music now when we really dont, we also have very narrowed minded listeners today and programmers at radio and labels. As for country music none of what was on that show is even COUNTRY music its basically POP music at this point. Taylor and Carrie etc...are the furthest thing from country.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

A fight? It's the Grammys, not the Source Awards.

Aye, it could happen. It's always a possibility if you have Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Young Jeezy in the crowd.

Hell, Chris Brown and Frank Ocean could have came to blows this past Sunday.

With the level of security the Grammys has, that won't happen. It might have been heavier than usual with the LAPD cop sniper.

scriptgirl said:

MS Trina, how long ago was this?

Now you are asking to much.... memory loss.

In the 60's they weren't even calling the Grammy's the Grammy's it prerecorded show. I think the show was called the "Best of...." something and it was like an edited version of who won.

The Grammy's didn't air live until the early 70's... so I guess until the early eighties? When Garth Brooks broke out on the scene. To put it bluntly there was much so more talent then and so the performances were spread over different genres. You have to consider the times and the categories. I recall when music written for children was an important category. People were nominated for best Folk music and gospel was mainstay as well as jazz and POP, of course.

Mickey did a thread (that I didn't get to about Polka Music) and this guy from Chicago won the best Polka Music Grammy every damn year. I remember that being apart of the program. So things change. I'ts really sad to see the state of R&B/Soul music, its a damn shame.

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Some years I'm totally annoyed by the amount of country music. This year it didn't bother me. Could have been the quality of the performances, or maybe the songs just weren't too awful. They could have used one more R&B or hip-hop performance this year (or somebody different in the Frank Ocean slot). Otherwise, I thought the show had a pretty good flow.

lord, I haven't seen gospel on the grammys in eons

scriptgirl said:

lord, I haven't seen gospel on the grammys in eons

Yep. It's funny because a few of the Country & Western singers/musician's also recorded gospel albums; if they did preform at the Grammy's they'd sing a gospel tune. The last time I saw some Gospel on the Grammy's it was Shirley Caesar.

I think LBC has a point fair or unfair, I don't think neither the Grammy's nor CBS trust Rap, R&B acts to perform. I still argue for the most part, Rap doesn't translate all that well in a live / concert, setting. I know, I'll catch some grief about that. Still I attribute that mostly to Rapper's not knowing how to "hold" an audience.

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TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

lord, I haven't seen gospel on the grammys in eons

Yep. It's funny because a few of the Country & Western singers/musician's also recorded gospel albums; if they did preform at the Grammy's they'd sing a gospel tune. The last time I saw some Gospel on the Grammy's it was Shirley Caesar.

I think LBC has a point fair or unfair, I don't think neither the Grammy's nor CBS trust Rap, R&B acts to perform. I still argue for the most par,t Rap doesn't translate all that well in a live / concert, setting. I know, I'll catch some grief about that. Still I attribute mostly to Rapper's not knowing how to "hold" an audience.

An MC with a DJ on two turntables, maybe with his crew? Great in a club. Maybe even great in an arena if that's what the audience was there to see. But it definitely (still) doesn't translate well to a tv audience that, largely, doesn't listen to that kind of music to begin with, and wouldn't pay to go see it to those clubs or arenas. But with a band, like LL did at the end? I think that works.

I totally agree it would be great to see some other music performed. The Take Five performance was perfunctory at best. How about more jazz? Or classical. They still give Grammys to those genres, too.

TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

lord, I haven't seen gospel on the grammys in eons

Yep. It's funny because a few of the Country & Western singers/musician's also recorded gospel albums; if they did preform at the Grammy's they'd sing a gospel tune. The last time I saw some Gospel on the Grammy's it was Shirley Caesar.

I think LBC has a point fair or unfair, I don't think neither the Grammy's nor CBS trust Rap, R&B acts to perform. I still argue for the most part, Rap doesn't translate all that well in a live / concert, setting. I know, I'll catch some grief about that. Still I attribute that mostly to Rapper's not knowing how to "hold" an audience.

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I agree wholeheartedly about rappers not knowing how to "hold" an audience. I grew up on rap music. Particularly from the early nineties on up, but the rappers of yesteryear like RUN DMC, PE, ATCQ, even hardcore acts like 2pac. Snoop and Biggie knew how to captivate an audience and let the crowd feel their live energy. However, when 99% of rap music is made by wack rappers who can't manage to go one bar without using the word "nigga" or "swag", I would rather have country music shine than for rappers to make the culture look so stupid.

Cerebus said:

TD3 said:

Yep. It's funny because a few of the Country & Western singers/musician's also recorded gospel albums; if they did preform at the Grammy's they'd sing a gospel tune. The last time I saw some Gospel on the Grammy's it was Shirley Caesar.

I think LBC has a point fair or unfair, I don't think neither the Grammy's nor CBS trust Rap, R&B acts to perform. I still argue for the most par,t Rap doesn't translate all that well in a live / concert, setting. I know, I'll catch some grief about that. Still I attribute mostly to Rapper's not knowing how to "hold" an audience.

An MC with a DJ on two turntables, maybe with his crew? Great in a club. Maybe even great in an arena if that's what the audience was there to see. But it definitely (still) doesn't translate well to a tv audience that, largely, doesn't listen to that kind of music to begin with, and wouldn't pay to go see it to those clubs or arenas. But with a band, like LL did at the end? I think that works.

I totally agree it would be great to see some other music performed. The Take Five performance was perfunctory at best. How about more jazz? Or classical. They still give Grammys to those genres, too.

Exactly.

It's unfortunate the Grammy's have so little faith in their viewing audience to fell they can't be introduced to different genres of music and appreciate it. I recall seeing artist/singers/musicians of all genres performing at the Grammy's who electrified the audience even when they may not have been listeners of their music. I suspect many of those artist gained new listener's and the listener's felt blessed to be introduced to some good music. I miss that terribly....

Country is very, very popular.

I remember the first time I was outside of California but in the U.S., but not in a coastal city, and it was country, country, country on the radio for hours... I thought I'd never escape it. Most the U.S. is not California and not urban coastal, so most of it is country, I guess.

Too much country on American Idol as well. I don't mind country, but you really only need one female country singer, one male and one band .. they all talk abt the same shit and sound alike...

Just another reason why I don't listen or watch these shows.

Tokyo89 said:

Too much country on American Idol as well. I don't mind country, but you really only need one female country singer, one male and one band .. they all talk abt the same shit and sound alike...

Not for nothing, but a lot of people would say the same thing about Rap/Hip-hop and current R&B...

And I say this as someone who is not a big fan of either current Country or Rap music