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Reply #30 posted 01/14/13 8:59am

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Thanks, Trini!

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Reply #31 posted 01/14/13 9:29am

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Daryl's up there in my list of the top 20 greatest singers of all time. That's how I'll rate him. He's great. John is great too with his voice. Daryl wasn't really bullshitting when he said he and John were the '80s Beatles. They did rule the charts for a time between 1981 and 1985. I think only Culture Club matched them in popularity during that period.

LOL Rick Astley and Michael McDonald were/are good and I love George but Daryl technically had the better of the four in vocal style IMHO.

Doesn't hurt that Daryl was influenced by the Temptations, Marvin and Rundgren (who collaborated with H&O and Hall off and on for almost 40 years).

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Reply #32 posted 01/14/13 11:13am

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lastdecember said:

alot of people forget that A great voice isnt in the strength its knowing what to do with it, to me Beyonce and Aguilera have powerful voices but they bore the shit out of me cause they are clueless as singers, Beyonce has about as much soul as Clay Aiken at the Apollo. I think the American Idol generation KILLED singers, and focused on being a booming voice, similar to what Sam Harris would do on star search but this AI thing is widespread because there is money in American idol know one really was making it off star search in terms of the show itself doing the $$$ backing.

As for Daryl hes got soul, he knows soul, but i hate the term blue eyed soul and he does too, big time. I think he can nail alot of songs that are classic rb songs, and of course all of his material.

As for his comments, i dont really see where he was too far off, "the beatles of his genereation" well maybe a bit overblown, but in terms of charting and selling records at that span of time, you couldnt touch them, they still are the most successful duo of all time. And i think people confuse those days with THESE DAYS, sorry but cats back then like Elton and Billy Joel etc..were coming up with masterpieces every year, and touring and putting out an album every year, singles, etc...its not anywhere near today, where an artist doesnt tour, sometimes doesnt even have an album out, maybe they drop a few hit singles and does some press media blitz bullshit, and that is what is considered "todays hard work" for a mainstream artist. Also the playing field was widespread today its so close minded and full of AGE-ism and playlists and demographics and BS that just makes people not give a shit who is out there at this point, and in reality, you never see artists on tv shows now, they have no place out there today.

So to me Daryl knows his material it suits his voice, its a good voice still, has alot of soul to it, powerful and he knows WHAT he is doing with it.

As I said, I don't have a problem with his vocals on their material.

My issue with the article was his "I'm just about the best singer I know..." quote.

To me his forte, more than his vocals, was the ability to write hit tunes.


I like his vocals on a few of their older tracks...



...Do What You Want, Be What You Are




...It's A Laugh




...Wait For Me



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Reply #33 posted 01/14/13 11:43am

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theAudience said:

lastdecember said:

alot of people forget that A great voice isnt in the strength its knowing what to do with it, to me Beyonce and Aguilera have powerful voices but they bore the shit out of me cause they are clueless as singers, Beyonce has about as much soul as Clay Aiken at the Apollo. I think the American Idol generation KILLED singers, and focused on being a booming voice, similar to what Sam Harris would do on star search but this AI thing is widespread because there is money in American idol know one really was making it off star search in terms of the show itself doing the $$$ backing.

As for Daryl hes got soul, he knows soul, but i hate the term blue eyed soul and he does too, big time. I think he can nail alot of songs that are classic rb songs, and of course all of his material.

As for his comments, i dont really see where he was too far off, "the beatles of his genereation" well maybe a bit overblown, but in terms of charting and selling records at that span of time, you couldnt touch them, they still are the most successful duo of all time. And i think people confuse those days with THESE DAYS, sorry but cats back then like Elton and Billy Joel etc..were coming up with masterpieces every year, and touring and putting out an album every year, singles, etc...its not anywhere near today, where an artist doesnt tour, sometimes doesnt even have an album out, maybe they drop a few hit singles and does some press media blitz bullshit, and that is what is considered "todays hard work" for a mainstream artist. Also the playing field was widespread today its so close minded and full of AGE-ism and playlists and demographics and BS that just makes people not give a shit who is out there at this point, and in reality, you never see artists on tv shows now, they have no place out there today.

So to me Daryl knows his material it suits his voice, its a good voice still, has alot of soul to it, powerful and he knows WHAT he is doing with it.

As I said, I don't have a problem with his vocals on their material.

My issue with the article was his "I'm just about the best singer I know..." quote.

To me his forte, more than his vocals, was the ability to write hit tunes.


I like his vocals on a few of their older tracks...



...Do What You Want, Be What You Are




...It's A Laugh




...Wait For Me



Music for adventurous listeners


tA


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For me, writing a hit tune is one thing, interpretation of that tune is a totally different story and is what matters most. Case in point, Michael Jackson's, "Ben". If the song had been sung by anyone other than Michael, it would have been, "a song about a rat". Michael like Daryl, has way of telling a story, with their delivery.

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Reply #34 posted 01/14/13 11:57am

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I think Darryl was probably just frustrated because high strung critics were trying to dismiss Hall & Oates as pure cheese with no substance.

These guys have a lot of respect nowadays but i know for awhile they were seen as guility pleasures which is silly cause the songs rock cool

I had a teacher who was a hardcore metal head and no respect for H&O until he was a roadie and set up a show for them one time. He said they played every kind of genre and did it great for almost 3 hours after that he knew they were the real deal.

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Reply #35 posted 01/14/13 12:16pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

I think Darryl was probably just frustrated because high strung critics were trying to dismiss Hall & Oates as pure cheese with no substance.

These guys have a lot of respect nowadays but i know for awhile they were seen as guility pleasures which is silly cause the songs rock cool

I had a teacher who was a hardcore metal head and no respect for H&O until he was a roadie and set up a show for them one time. He said they played every kind of genre and did it great for almost 3 hours after that he knew they were the real deal.

They were dissed quite often. Could be a reason why there's a bias against them being inducted. In this business, it's hard to stay humble if no one really thinks your music has any merit. In this case, Hall & Oates were dealing with racist music snobs who hated that H&O dared mix their rock with soul music and other elements.

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Reply #36 posted 01/14/13 12:19pm

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Very entertaining and distinctivie!

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Reply #37 posted 01/14/13 12:25pm

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Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I think Darryl was probably just frustrated because high strung critics were trying to dismiss Hall & Oates as pure cheese with no substance.

They were dissed quite often. Could be a reason why there's a bias against them being inducted.

Toto was another Pop act that got that treatment even though as individuals they were very talented musicians and writers.

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Reply #38 posted 01/14/13 1:58pm

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theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

They were dissed quite often. Could be a reason why there's a bias against them being inducted.

Toto was another Pop act that got that treatment even though as individuals they were very talented musicians and writers.

Music for adventurous listeners


tA


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Maybe that's why they were less mainstream after IV?

That album was so big but after that they didn't have many hits.

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Reply #39 posted 01/14/13 2:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I think Darryl was probably just frustrated because high strung critics were trying to dismiss Hall & Oates as pure cheese with no substance.

These guys have a lot of respect nowadays but i know for awhile they were seen as guility pleasures which is silly cause the songs rock cool

I had a teacher who was a hardcore metal head and no respect for H&O until he was a roadie and set up a show for them one time. He said they played every kind of genre and did it great for almost 3 hours after that he knew they were the real deal.

They were dissed quite often. Could be a reason why there's a bias against them being inducted. In this business, it's hard to stay humble if no one really thinks your music has any merit. In this case, Hall & Oates were dealing with racist music snobs who hated that H&O dared mix their rock with soul music and other elements.

Theres a definite bias towards them for alot of reasons ONE being they were considered 80's and have to be honest, outside of u2 and REM, alot of those 80's acts are never getting in, so dont hold your breath on Duran Duran Bon Jovi Depeche Mode these all are 80's bands so unless you Overdosed or were scandalous like GnRoses you arent getting in. With Hall and Oates they were a 70's group with major success in the 80's they are viewed LIKE chicago is, sellouts, this is what HEART was viewed as, till finally now they released that ANN deserved to be in ROCK HALL OF FAME before every woman in there. So i doubt hall and oates will ever get in.


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Reply #40 posted 01/14/13 2:57pm

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shorttrini said:

theAudience said:

As I said, I don't have a problem with his vocals on their material.

My issue with the article was his "I'm just about the best singer I know..." quote.

To me his forte, more than his vocals, was the ability to write hit tunes.


I like his vocals on a few of their older tracks...



...Do What You Want, Be What You Are




...It's A Laugh




...Wait For Me



Music for adventurous listeners


tA


peace Tribal Records

For me, writing a hit tune is one thing, interpretation of that tune is a totally different story and is what matters most. Case in point, Michael Jackson's, "Ben". If the song had been sung by anyone other than Michael, it would have been, "a song about a rat". Michael like Daryl, has way of telling a story, with their delivery.

yeah i gotta agree 100% on that i think Daryl is much more than a HIT writer, cause lets face it, for awhile they had no hits, when they started out, but overall i think Daryl is just a good singer, and would have no issue with him getting up there and doing say an RB covers record like Michael Mcdonald did, i mean i think Daryl is far superior to Michael in many ways.


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Reply #41 posted 01/14/13 3:10pm

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novabrkr said:

He's an excellent singer.

What's amazing to me is how well his voice has hold up. When he has all those other musicians in their 50s and 60s as quests in his show (live from Daryl's house) their voices are far from being in as great condition.

He looks 10-20 years younger than what he is as well. Isn't he the type of a man every divorced woman in his age bracket would like to date? lol

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Reply #42 posted 01/14/13 3:10pm

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"Ghetto Smile" B-Legit FEATURING DARRYL HALL (1997)

Sara Smile interpolation

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Reply #43 posted 01/14/13 3:38pm

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lastdecember said:

yeah i gotta agree 100% on that i think Daryl is much more than a HIT writer, cause lets face it, for awhile they had no hits, when they started out,

Let me correct my statement to say good tunes which would more accurately reflect what I was getting at.

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Reply #44 posted 01/14/13 3:44pm

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Cinny said:

"Ghetto Smile" B-Legit FEATURING DARRYL HALL (1997)

Sara Smile interpolation

lol

All the homies smiile for me. whistle heeeee

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Reply #45 posted 01/14/13 6:21pm

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An amazing singer and definitely in my top 5!

He's also still doing his thing on Darryl's House....the great music continues
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Reply #46 posted 01/15/13 2:40pm

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novabrkr said:

He's an excellent singer.

What's amazing to me is how well his voice has hold up. When he has all those other musicians in their 50s and 60s as quests in his show (live from Daryl's house) their voices are far from being in as great condition.

He looks 10-20 years younger than what he is as well. Isn't he the type of a man every divorced woman in his age bracket would like to date? lol

He was on Stern and I believe he said his mother is a voice teacher? Chalked up the shape of his pipes to singing from the diaphragm.

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Reply #47 posted 01/15/13 2:41pm

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P.S. I think he's a great singer.

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Reply #48 posted 01/15/13 3:09pm

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missfee said:

novabrkr said:

He's an excellent singer.

What's amazing to me is how well his voice has hold up. When he has all those other musicians in their 50s and 60s as quests in his show (live from Daryl's house) their voices are far from being in as great condition.

He looks 10-20 years younger than what he is as well. Isn't he the type of a man every divorced woman in his age bracket would like to date? lol

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Reply #49 posted 01/15/13 3:35pm

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Daryl's still fine...and his voice ain't too shabby either! biggrin

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Reply #50 posted 01/16/13 3:04am

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Never heard of a Daryl Hall. When I saw the thread title I thought y'all was talking about someone related to Aaron Hall who use to perfrom with the 80's R&b group "Guy"......

I'll click on the links some of you provided later on and see if the Guy can really sing or if y'all are just praising another Blue-Eyed person that's warbling all over the place and calling it Soul Singing.

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Reply #51 posted 01/16/13 5:41am

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Never heard of a Daryl Hall. When I saw the thread title I thought y'all was talking about someone related to Aaron Hall who use to perfrom with the 80's R&b group "Guy".....



I'll click on the links some of you provided later on and see if the Guy can really sing or if y'all are just praising another Blue-Eyed person that's warbling all over the place and calling it Soul Singing.



I don't know why, but this post almost stopped my breathing! eek
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Reply #52 posted 01/16/13 6:35am

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Chancellor, how have you never heard of Hall and Oates?

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Reply #53 posted 01/16/13 8:24am

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jon1967 said:

love "Live from Darryls House

http://www.youtube.com/us...arylsHouse

Now that's the type of Reality Show we could use more of.


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Reply #54 posted 01/17/13 2:25am

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scriptgirl said:

Chancellor, how have you never heard of Hall and Oates?

I know my music so of course I've heard of Hall and Oates...But before yesterday if ANYBODY were to ask me if I think Daryl Hall is a Great Soul singer for a white Guy? I still would have paused and asked, who is that, is he a new singer?

Now that you say Hall & Oates I've caught up with you, but I still would have forgetten his first name is Daryl...

Same with Country Legends Brooks & Dunn....The only Famous Brooks I know by first name is Garth. I don't know Brooks & Dunn's first names. Do you know their first names without looking it up?

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Reply #55 posted 01/17/13 10:38am

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I don't follow country music, but Darryl has made a name for himself, period, so of course I know his name.

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Reply #56 posted 01/18/13 9:42am

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Furthermore, Darryl Hall had an illustrious solo career.

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Reply #57 posted 01/18/13 9:43am

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theAudience said:

jon1967 said:

love "Live from Darryls House

http://www.youtube.com/us...arylsHouse

Now that's the type of Reality Show we could use more of.


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Darryl's House >>> Run's House

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