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Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

MickyDolenz said:

Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

It's his group.

iaminparties said:

MickyDolenz said:

Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

It's his group.

Not really. Lionel wasn't in the original lineup when the group was called The Mystics. When he joined, Lionel was the saxaphone player and didn't do vocals at first.

MickyDolenz said:

Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

I put one with him doing lead.

iaminparties said:

MickyDolenz said:

Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

It's his group.

Noooooo...it's their group

HuMpThAnG said:

iaminparties said:

It's his group.

Noooooo...it's their group

Yeah, there's no leader.

smoothcriminal12 said:

"The black man, white man, has got no music of their own. Music belongs to the universe." -- Rufus Thomas

Sarcasm

smoothcriminal12 said:

"The black man, white man, has got no music of their own. Music belongs to the universe." -- Rufus Thomas

HuMpThAnG said:

iaminparties said:

It's his group.

Noooooo...it's their group

The group failed when Lionel left though. They probably never would have reached the sucess they did without him

aardvark15 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

Noooooo...it's their group

The group failed when Lionel left though. They probably never would have reached the sucess they did without him

Well, actually, they wanted him out anyway

They got tired of those dang ballads

They've stated losing Ritchie wasn't the issue, it was losing James Anthony Carmicheal, their producer, that did them in....according to them

HuMpThAnG said:

aardvark15 said:

The group failed when Lionel left though. They probably never would have reached the sucess they did without him

Well, actually, they wanted him out anyway

They got tired of those dang ballads

They've stated losing Ritchie wasn't the issue, it was losing James Anthony Carmicheal, their producer, that did them in....according to them

They just don't want to admit Lionel is the reason they were big. The may say they hate those ballads, but they'd be on the streets if it weren't for them

thebanishedone said:

It's not true that The Commodores got tired of Lionel's slow jams.they were desperate for a hit and Lionel gave it to kenny Rogers.also there were tensions about profit shares.Walter wanted Lionel to share his earnings from the songs he was giving to others.

Not according to this program I've seen

dang!!!...forgot the name of it

hell, i think Radioscope mention this not sure now

HuMpThAnG said:

aardvark15 said:

The group failed when Lionel left though. They probably never would have reached the sucess they did without him

Well, actually, they wanted him out anyway

They got tired of those dang ballads

They've stated losing Ritchie wasn't the issue, it was losing James Anthony Carmicheal, their producer, that did them in....according to them

They did manage two more hits without Lionel Nightshift and

Going To The Bank

iaminparties said:

MickyDolenz said:

Walter Orange is doing the lead on Brick House, not Lionel.

I put one with him doing lead.

You sure did. You didn't even post Brick House. That is Lionel singing

lead on Fancy Dancer.

Looks like someone took Chris Tucker in Rush Hour 2 a little too literally

phunkdaddy said:

iaminparties said:

I put one with him doing lead.

You sure did. You didn't even post Brick House. That is Lionel singing

lead on Fancy Dancer.

That's because it was changed. Didn't you see the "[Edited 12/28/12 11:48am]" on the OP. Brick House was originally there, not Fancy Dancer.

MickyDolenz said:

phunkdaddy said:

You sure did. You didn't even post Brick House. That is Lionel singing

lead on Fancy Dancer.

That's because it was changed. Didn't you see the "[Edited 12/28/12 11:48am]" on the OP. Brick House was originally there, not Fancy Dancer.

This is true.I just picked their most popular song with the group,but I put one with Lionel on lead.He had to sing for some people's satisfaction here and picked a song I liked with him leading.

alphastreet said:

Looks like someone took Chris Tucker in Rush Hour 2 a little too literally

If this was directed at me,I never saw the movie or any rush hour movies.

iaminparties said:

MickyDolenz said:

That's because it was changed. Didn't you see the "[Edited 12/28/12 11:48am]" on the OP. Brick House was originally there, not Fancy Dancer.

This is true.I just picked their most popular song with the group,but I put one with Lionel on lead.He had to sing for some people's satisfaction here and picked a song I liked with him leading.

I only looked at the video i saw posted first. I never saw Brick House posted.

It's too bad that Lionel and the guys couldn't work something out.It would have been cool if Lionel could have stayed with the band and made solo albums occasionally.....kinda like Phil Collins and Genesis.Lionel achieved major success as a solo artist,but I think the other guys brought out a soulful side of him that wasn't there on his solo albums ("Zoom","High On Sunshine","Just To Be Close To You",etc).

SoulAlive said:

thebanishedone said:

Lionel have a lot of great soulful moments on his solo albums also.it just he inorporated more 80's sound.Commodores also changed their sound after Lionel's departure.

Unfortunately not for the better and how much of it was them versus

the producers they worked with like Dennis Lambert. Much of the Nightshift

album sounded like the backdrop for a cheesy 80's flick.

Oh yes Lionel's first two solo albums were great but he started going

downhill with Dancing on the Ceiling.

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phunkdaddy said:

thebanishedone said:

Lionel have a lot of great soulful moments on his solo albums also.it just he inorporated more 80's sound.Commodores also changed their sound after Lionel's departure.

Unfortunately not for the better and how much of it was them versus

the producers they worked with like Dennis Lambert. Much of the Nightshift

album sounded like the backdrop for a cheesy 80's flick.

Oh yes Lionel's first two solo albums were great but he started going

downhill with Dancing on the Ceiling.

[Edited 12/30/12 19:12pm]

Lionel Richie became the Pop Ascension's greatest anomaly

a man who was considered the greatest songwriter on the planet virtually disappeared on a dime by the time the 90s hit

Dancing On The Ceiling marked a significant drop from the quality of music he was accustomed in making..

allot of great artist's careers were destroyed by the Pop Ascension.....Lionel was just one of many.....

one of my all time favorite songs by Lionel was LOVE WILL FIND A WAY

http://www.youtube.com/wa...x8ua4no3Hg

[Edited 12/30/12 19:30pm]

"Love Will Find A Way" is my favorite Lionel Richie solo song It's a quiet storm favorite

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

It's too bad that Lionel and the guys couldn't work something out.It would have been cool if Lionel could have stayed with the band and made solo albums occasionally.....kinda like Phil Collins and Genesis.Lionel achieved major success as a solo artist,but I think the other guys brought out a soulful side of him that wasn't there on his solo albums ("Zoom","High On Sunshine","Just To Be Close To You",etc).

U r right. I pretty sure that is all the early commodores fans would have wanted. These guys weren't just business partners but lifelong friends. I remember in an interview in 1986 William King admitted he was a little bitter at the way Lionel left but for the most part he just missed Lionel and the camraderie they used to have.

what's odd is that,both sides began to fade out after 1986.Dancing On The Ceiling was Lionel's last "huge" album and the Commodores never had another hit after "Going To The Bank".Everyone would have benefitted from a reunion.

SoulAlive said:

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said: U r right. I pretty sure that is all the early commodores fans would have wanted. These guys weren't just business partners but lifelong friends. I remember in an interview in 1986 William King admitted he was a little bitter at the way Lionel left but for the most part he just missed Lionel and the camraderie they used to have.

what's odd is that,both sides began to fade out after 1986.Dancing On The Ceiling was Lionel's last "huge" album and the Commodores never had another hit after "Going To The Bank".Everyone would have benefitted from a reunion.

yeah, think around that time, Lionel was getting that butt spanked