MickyDolenz said:

Fair enough...

MJ stole it from them...

But it's very obvious, where jermaine got it from.

MickyDolenz said:

great post....there is nothing new under the sun

Jimi Hendrix was rockin this outfit before the Vietnam War hit

Adam Ant was rockin this outfit 15 years before the HISTORY album was conceived

and Jermaine was rockin this outfit as early as the early 80s

the glittered glove, the Off The Wall tuxedo, the slacks w/the stripe running alongside it, the Thriller Jacket, The Beat it Jacket, that was Michael Jackson to the core.....

Right...

Jermaine playing Walk On By with Tito, Johnny, & Ronnie from a J5 concert

MickyDolenz said:

Jermaine playing Walk On By with Tito, Johnny, & Ronnie from a J5 concert

this is the only reason why the j5 periond is more interesting then micheal solo live years. u get to see jermaine play bass, tito play guitar and johnny, on the drums and randy on keys. this is fire.

jackson35 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Jermaine playing Walk On By with Tito, Johnny, & Ronnie from a J5 concert

this is the only reason why the j5 periond is more interesting then micheal solo live years. u get to see jermaine play bass, tito play guitar and johnny, on the drums and randy on keys. this is fire.

To this day, I still never could understand why Motown never let the boys make their own music?

They were playing for themselves years before they even got to Motown. At the time they wanted freedom, only Smoke, Marvin and Stevie had that, understandable.

None of the other artist did like Tempts, Diana Ross, Supremes, ect. But, coming into Motown, they never did, so that was a different story.

They could have started them out slow, like CBS Records did. Give them a few cuts on the albums.

Hell, Ronnie Rancifer has a few credited tracks under his belt during the J5 days, "I Am Love" being the most known title.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

jackson35 said:

this is the only reason why the j5 periond is more interesting then micheal solo live years. u get to see jermaine play bass, tito play guitar and johnny, on the drums and randy on keys. this is fire.

To this day, I still never could understand why Motown never let the boys make their own music?

They were playing for themselves years before they even got to Motown. At the time they wanted freedom, only Smoke, Marvin and Stevie had that, understandable.

None of the other artist did like Tempts, Diana Ross, Supremes, ect. But, coming into Motown, they never did, so that was a different story.

They could have started them out slow, like CBS Records did. Give them a few cuts on the albums.

Hell, Ronnie Rancifer has a few credited tracks under his belt during the J5 days, "I Am Love" being the most known title.

I've long wondered the same thing, especially given that I think Jermaine was allowed to start writing and producing for himself as early as '77. The boys were becoming adults, so the transition was surely inevitable... from what I've read, a relatively small concession could have been enough to keep hold of them.

Scorp said:

MickyDolenz said:

great post....there is nothing new under the sun

Jimi Hendrix was rockin this outfit before the Vietnam War hit

Adam Ant was rockin this outfit 15 years before the HISTORY album was conceived

and Jermaine was rockin this outfit as early as the early 80s

the glittered glove, the Off The Wall tuxedo, the slacks w/the stripe running alongside it, the Thriller Jacket, The Beat it Jacket, that was Michael Jackson to the core.....

In my mind, Jermiane was rocking that look before MJ. I remember as a kid seeing him in it first. I refer to those jackets as Jermaine Jackson jackets when I see them in stores like Forever21. Of course I own a few of them too.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

jackson35 said:

this is the only reason why the j5 period is more interesting then michael solo live years. u get to see jermaine play bass, tito play guitar and johnny, on the drums and randy on keys. this is fire.

To this day, I still never could understand why Motown never let the boys make their own music?

They were playing for themselves years before they even got to Motown. At the time they wanted freedom, only Smoke, Marvin and Stevie had that, understandable.

None of the other artist did like Tempts, Diana Ross, Supremes, ect. But, coming into Motown, they never did, so that was a different story.

They could have started them out slow, like CBS Records did. Give them a few cuts on the albums.

Hell, Ronnie Rancifer has a few credited tracks under his belt during the J5 days, "I Am Love" being the most known title.

Control, ego, hubris, power, & money. "Always follow the money."

I wouldn't doubt Mr. Gordy remembered the cost to Motown's bottom line when they had t to renegotiate Marvin Gaye's contract after the mega hit, "What's Going On" album. Motown not only had to pay Mr. Gaye more money but he gained more creative control over his music.

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I LOVE this song!

Bree8016 said:

I LOVE this song!

Me too. This is the only Jermaine album I have.

TD3 said:

TD3 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

To this day, I still never could understand why Motown never let the boys make their own music?

They were playing for themselves years before they even got to Motown. At the time they wanted freedom, only Smoke, Marvin and Stevie had that, understandable.

None of the other artist did like Tempts, Diana Ross, Supremes, ect. But, coming into Motown, they never did, so that was a different story.

They could have started them out slow, like CBS Records did. Give them a few cuts on the albums.

Hell, Ronnie Rancifer has a few credited tracks under his belt during the J5 days, "I Am Love" being the most known title.

Control, ego, hubris, power, & money. "Always follow the money."

I wouldn't doubt Mr. Gordy remembered the cost to Motown's bottom line when they had t to renegotiate Marvin Gaye's contract after the mega hit, "What's Going On" album. Motown not only had to pay Mr. Gaye more money but he gained more creative control over his music.

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Marvin's deal was different. He was already writing and producing before that new contract after 1971.

It seems a few years after tghe J5 left, everyone on the label was writing. Rick James, Lionel Richie, of course Jermaine. Hell, even Vanity when she came over, lol.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

TD3 said:

Control, ego, hubris, power, & money. "Always follow the money."

I wouldn't doubt Mr. Gordy remembered the cost to Motown's bottom line when they had t to renegotiate Marvin Gaye's contract after the mega hit, "What's Going On" album. Motown not only had to pay Mr. Gaye more money but he gained more creative control over his music.

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[Edited 12/30/12 16:21pm]

Marvin's deal was different. He was already writing and producing before that new contract after 1971.

It seems a few years after the J5 left, everyone on the label was writing. Rick James, Lionel Richie, of course Jermaine. Hell, even Vanity when she came over, lol.

Gaye still received more creative control and money; this is documented in PBS, The Masters.

Just my observation,...

Sometimes people believe to keep total control, its best to keep people under their thumb. Could Gordy have been so arrogant or clueless he couldn't see the Jackson's talent / potential for being songwriters, produces, composers? As you know the Jacksons left Motown because they were worried they'd be nothing more than a glorified cover band. I wonder if Gordy's thinking was, the band was already a cash cow why risk a proven formula? Gordy wouldn't be the first CEO to sacrifice the big picture for immediacy.

To your point.

I think Gordy learned a painful lesson after everyone jumped ship. Once again the business-model for Motown had to change. In the coming years it was more profitable for them to have artist who could compose and produce; you had artist for which you didn't have to hold their hand and they could kinda jump in feet first. Hell, his contracts were still the same, he owned most of their shit and made all the money still. In many instances Gordy had some great businesses instincts but he allowed ego, greed, and power hang ups to get the better of him a lot of times. But this is so true of a lot of CEO's.

Here's a couple of Switch songs Jermaine had some involvement in

iaminparties said:

Let's get serious.

^ LOL!

TommorowNeverKnows said:

Can someone answer me this....

Why is Jermaine rocking MJ's Gear lately?

I knew he was always a bit jealous...

but dayum... this is just weird and a little sickening ...

It's funny...I was just checkin' out these pix and the same question entered MY mind. Whuzzup with DATT?! I don't know, y'all...I think the J's are one messed UP bunch, but it's not their fault. It just happened that way by being so young and in the spotlight or sumpthin'. Sad, really.

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Now would be a good time for Hip-Oselect to jump on getting a boxset (Like David,Eddie & Smokey) out there. I miss not having a turntable, so i could play the "I Like Your Style" album.....*hums the melody for "You're Giving Me The Runaround"*...........

silkman said:

Now would be a good time for Hip-Oselect to jump on getting a boxset (Like David,Eddie & Smokey) out there. I miss not having a turntable, so i could play the "I Like Your Style" album.....*hums the melody for "You're Giving Me The Runaround"*...........

Maybe someone should compile Jermaines's non-album singles, b-sides, duets, and soundtrack songs.

Here's the brand new music video for Autumn Leaves

December 2012 interview

MickyDolenz said:

This was my cut !!!!!