Jay Z is a mainstream rapper and that does not make him the poster child for Hip Hop, sorry NO. Maybe it does to people from the different persuasion but anybody that knows hip hop knows whatsup
Regardless of the case,
One person does not reflect the thinking of an ENTIRE community and personally I dont consider him to be hip hop in its truest sense, so no.
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They would've been better off just following Somaya, showing how hard it is for an up and comer to try and make it in hip hop with little money or (in some cases) common sense.
Last I heard the producers weren't interested in her come up, from the struggling Tequila and shoe lines, to her new relationship with successful producer Swift and the album they were producing. She seemed to have a lot going on and it might have been as boring as the producers expected, but it WAS a life, which was more then I could say for Erika, Kimbella and Chrissy.
But I do hear Somaya and Joe Budden are exes so she might be on this season.
It hasn't changed, and neither has the fanbase. Nicki isn't considered true hip hop, Jay-Z can say whatever he wants, Kanye got "gay fished" on South Park, and Frank Ocean is a fuckin' singer from an offensive crew. This does not make gay people feel any better than before about listening to hip hop or attending hip hop events (unless it never bothered them in the first place).
It hasn't changed, and neither has the fanbase. Nicki isn't considered true hip hop, Jay-Z can say whatever he wants, Kanye got "gay fished" on South Park, and Frank Ocean is a fuckin' singer from an offensive crew. This does not make gay people feel any better than before about listening to hip hop or attending hip hop events (unless it never bothered them in the first place).
By far the most homophobic genre is Dancehall. Many anthems about killing explicitly gay or feminine individuals, how they would be killed, making a fun dance hook out of it, and they are hits, and no one apologizes. I find it actually frightening, and I love hip hop.
Yeah, fair enough some artists speak against homosexuality, but some go too far about killing and torturing the chi chi man.
Well those artists you mentioned isnt really a true reflection of Hip Hop, ya know? So it is not accurate to say that Hip Hop is more open to the gay community just because a few mainstream rappers spoke out on it.
Everything these celebrities say has a reason behind it. There not just saying it just to say it, 9 times out of 10.
You have to think about motives and thoughts as Lauryn Hill would say.
Jay Z is buddy buddy with Obama and is more than likely going to say things that are in his good graces or that models what Obama is trying to push. ( Jayz isnt hip hop nor does he represent the Hip Hop community and he says things that benefit him in this case his friendship with the president) Nikki has a gay following because of her image more than anything, Frank Ocean I cant really say because he really is not gay but bi sexual.
All I am saying is the mainsteam scene doesnt really depict what Hip Hop is really thinking and it doesnt speak for other rappers or MC's.
Well even with that said. Jay-Z has been huge in Hip-Hop and is still a huge brand name. So him saying that still had some impact
And it does suck some of my favorite Hip-Hop artists like Mos Def, Busta Rhymes, Masta Ace & Grandmaster Flash. Have all pretty much admited to being homophobic.
I will be honest i don't listen to the music. Cause i try to seperate the music from the men... another one that made me go DAMN was the singer for one of my favorite rock bands W.A.S.P. Has an interview saying how homosexuals are taking over the world & if a homosexual is killed he would feel no sorrow
Well His a brand name in RAP music but I wouldnt say hip hop because its more of a culture and its a culture that he does not live and does not make in his music. I AGREE with your point I just wouldnt say he has a impact on hip hop which is different from rap music.
I still disagree with him being the spokeperson for an entire community and I also disagree with his comments having a MAJOR impact. I dont recall anybody talking about his comments longer than a day or it having intense news coverage but hey thats my 2cents
If his comments were that big of a deal, it would have gotten that treatment along with other rappers and MC's commenting on it. I would say Frank Ocean's coming out had a more bigger impact than Jay Z's comments because alot of other artists OUTSIDE of the rap world commented on it and was affected by it. When you have people like Stevie Wonder and award academys talking about your sexuality NOW THATS a BIG DEAL.
It's already the gayest music that ever existed. It's just not the right type of gay though. I've never seen so much rough trade together in one place except for gay cruising areas.
I think of eurodace and Kylie Minogue when people say gay music lol. What do you all mean?
Gay music has been known for ages to be the dance music of whatever particular era it is is such as disco, house, trance, eurodance. However, shit hop has the least amount of straight artists of any other genre of music.
I think of eurodace and Kylie Minogue when people say gay music lol. What do you all mean?
Gay music has been known for ages to be the dance music of whatever particular era it is is such as disco, house, trance, eurodance. However, shit hop has the least amount of straight artists of any other genre of music.
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Least straight, or most closet i.e. Lil Wayne/Birdman?
Gay music has been known for ages to be the dance music of whatever particular era it is is such as disco, house, trance, eurodance. However, shit hop has the least amount of straight artists of any other genre of music.
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Least straight, or most closet i.e. Lil Wayne/Birdman?
Most gay hating closeted bisexuals (trade). Before shit hop dominated, you could tell the difference between a straight man and trade because a lot of trade dressed and acted just like these rappers. Actual straight men weren't nearly as butch because they didn't have anything to prove. Plus, the thug look and attitude originally came from the prisons and prisons are the trade capital of the world.
It's already the gayest music that ever existed. It's just not the right type of gay though. I've never seen so much rough trade together in one place except for gay cruising areas.
HOMOPHOBIA IS THE LAST THING HIP HOP ARTIST NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IN HIP HOP. THIS IS A DISTRACTIUON SO THESE ARTIST WON'T ASK QUESTION ABOUT MASTER RECORDING AND MONEY BEING PROPERLY MANNAGED.