At first I thought it was because their might be some higher authorities preventing her from making an album (record label demands, etc) but Ive realized that maybe Lauryn doesnt want to produce music in such a commercialized era.

Her views about the music industry and society are very bold. From alot of the interviews, I get the feel that she does not want to compromise her artistic creativity in order to thrive in todays industry. Her views are very interesting and I agree with alot of what she has to say.

Going by her views, I highly doubt that she will ever come back out with an album at least no time soon. She seems pretty adamant in how she feels. I rather her standing up for what she feel is right than her producing an album just to be relevant. There should be more artists like her.

I also think its the same case for D Angelo although I think D Angelo is exactly going to release an album

I know alot of us complain about her not releasing an album but I think its important and could be interesting to look at the bigger picture with why should would possibly choose not to. She still tours so obviously she still enjoys performing and music. I think the issue is much deeper.

Do you guys think this is Lauryn's own selfish doing as in she is just being plain lazy or do you think it involves other things or do you simply not care anymore either way

I'm done waiting for her slow ass.

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Yall still falling for that non-commericalism/industry is bad okaydoke?

Its simply that Lauryn isnt talented enough to be consistent. Misedu. was a fluke. And she got a LOT of help.

not all careers are supposed to last more than 7-10 years

the lady said it all already...

If she really wanted to make an album, she could have gone independent. total artistic freedom...but she didn't.

Maybe she just doesn't have another album in her.

The industry is evil and will exploit her and her image, she feels blessed by the success she was granted and does not want to compromise that and feels less is more, simple. I know we all go wtf over her statements and actions at times, but she may be more sane than she gets credit for

alphastreet said:

The industry is evil and will exploit her and her image, she feels blessed by the success she was granted and does not want to compromise that and feels less is more, simple. I know we all go wtf over her statements and actions at times, but she may be more sane than she gets credit for

This post is EVERYTHING, agree 100%

rdhull said:

Yall still falling for that non-commericalism/industry is bad okaydoke?

Its simply that Lauryn isnt talented enough to be consistent. Misedu. was a fluke. And she got a LOT of help.

Amen!

rdhull said:

Yall still falling for that non-commericalism/industry is bad okaydoke?

Its simply that Lauryn isnt talented enough to be consistent. Misedu. was a fluke. And she got a LOT of help.

Bullshit

rialb said:

rdhull said:

Yall still falling for that non-commericalism/industry is bad okaydoke?

Its simply that Lauryn isnt talented enough to be consistent. Misedu. was a fluke. And she got a LOT of help.

Amen!

and Bullshit

I think it's due to the fact that she bite off more than she could chew, and unestimated just how demanding and how hard the business was. When she realized it she turned and ran, hiding behind her bullshit view and antics... Leaving her fans as collateral damage. I for one, have no love for her...

It's more complicated than that. Like it was said, if she really wanted to do independent then she should've left Columbia. As of 2012, she's still contractually binded to them and for some reason can't or won't break out of her contract. Plus, that lawsuit by all those musicians who said they composed the music on her album also killed any kind of musical momentum she hoped to have from it. Not to add possible health issues (she strikes me as bipolar for some reason), her feelings on the industry and having numerous children are also reasons for this. So like I said, it's not just the industry that is "to blame" for what happened to Lauryn.

shorttrini said:

I think it's due to the fact that she bite off more than she could chew, and unestimated just how demanding and how hard the business was. When she realized it she turned and ran, hiding behind her bullshit view and antics... Leaving her fans as collateral damage. I for one, have no love for her...

That's another issue. It also seems the earlier success went to her head and she got too overwhelmed by it and hasn't recovered. Her tours from 2005-2012 tell you that. It'll be a hard road to climb up for Lauryn.

She just doesn't want to make a new album to me that's all it's about.

She had her time, and has a lot of great unreleased stuff & under ground tracks.

So i am fine with her never releasing another album.

I think she is better suited for the underground now anywho.

she is NOT writing material, period

Timmy84 said:

It's more complicated than that. Like it was said, if she really wanted to do independent then she should've left Columbia. As of 2012, she's still contractually binded to them and for some reason can't or won't break out of her contract. Plus, that lawsuit by all those musicians who said they composed the music on her album also killed any kind of musical momentum she hoped to have from it. Not to add possible health issues (she strikes me as bipolar for some reason), her feelings on the industry and having numerous children are also reasons for this. So like I said, it's not just the industry that is "to blame" for what happened to Lauryn.

Thats what confuses me. She implies that she is never going to come back out with music but she is locked into a contract. If she knows she is not going to come out with anymore music why stay in a contract?

mjscarousal said:

Thats what confuses me. She implies that she is never going to come back out with music but she is locked into a contract. If she knows she is not going to come out with anymore music why stay in a contract?

You can't just break a contract, that's not how the law works. The label can (and does) break contracts, but an act can get sued by the label if they try to. The label can also keep someone tied to a contract if it hasn't been fulfilled, but not release anything, or release it and not promote it. It's possible for an act to buy out a contract, if the company accepts. But that would be really expensive, especially for a popular act. That's how Peter Tork got out of The Monkees. But he was practically broke afterwards. Chaka Khan had quit Rufus, but ABC Records (later MCA) made her return to the group to fufill the contract.

Maybe she just doesn't want to..

Making music takes a lot of time and energy. Maybe Lauryn just has a "fuck it" attitude.

shorttrini said:

I think it's due to the fact that she bite off more than she could chew, and unestimated just how demanding and how hard the business was. When she realized it she turned and ran, hiding behind her bullshit view and antics... Leaving her fans as collateral damage. I for one, have no love for her...

C'mon. By the time Miseduc came out, she had been in the biz for about 10 years. She knew the game plan. Sista Act 2 as well.

She just doesnt have it in her to do it on her own. Folks used to get mad when it was said that 'Clef and other writer/producers aided her, and it seems its true. She did her own thing with Unplugged and it was tres rudimentary..the songs and the playing.

Hell..have u seen what she does to herself even without a typical makepup crew (that Pennywise clown shit she rocked lol).

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mjscarousal said:

rialb said:

Amen!

and Bullshit

The facts disagree. To date she has never equalled or bettered The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Until she does why should we believe she is capable of doing so?

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats what confuses me. She implies that she is never going to come back out with music but she is locked into a contract. If she knows she is not going to come out with anymore music why stay in a contract?

You can't just break a contract, that's not how the law works. The label can (and does) break contracts, but an act can get sued by the label if they try to. The label can also keep someone tied to a contract if it hasn't been fulfilled, but not release anything, or release it and not promote it. It's possible for an act to buy out a contract, if the company accepts. But that would be really expensive, especially for a popular act. That's how Peter Tork got out of The Monkees. But he was practically broke afterwards. Chaka Khan had quit Rufus, but ABC Records (later MCA) made her return to the group to fufill the contract.

I'm thinking she signed those 3 album type contracts. Even if she decides no mas, the company can't let her go and Lauryn probably knows if she left, Columbia would sue her for negligence. But she's not the innocent in this. She agreed to whatever solo contract she signed and has to perform full obligations to it. Because she hasn't, she's tied to her label for life even if music is not #1 in her life anymore. I think she peaked anyway.

Thanks for info Mickey. She definitly has peaked and the industry has changed but people obviously want music from her. She shows up 2 hours late to sold out shows all the time. That says something.

rialb said:

mjscarousal said:

and Bullshit

The facts disagree. To date she has never equalled or bettered The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Until she does why should we believe she is capable of doing so?

You said Amen to Misedu being a fluke so what does that have to do with this? I called bullshit on you calling the album a fluke.

But to answer your question, What are the facts?

To be honest, I doubt anything she comes out with would top Misedu but she can at least keep her fans satisfied and put some use to her talent.

rialb said:

mjscarousal said:

and Bullshit

The facts disagree. To date she has never equalled or bettered The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. Until she does why should we believe she is capable of doing so?

Thats because that damn dog Toto pulled back the curtain.

She has performed some songs in the past few years that she tried out live.

mjscarousal said:

Thanks for info Mickey.

You're welcome. You ever see credits on an album that says "so and so is courtesy of _____ Records". That's because the guest has to get permission from their home label to appear on another label. If the label does not approve, either the track can't be issued, or the guest goes uncredited or uses a fake name. In some cases, the guest does not want to be known, even if they're allowed to appear.

Timmy84 said:

I'm thinking she signed those 3 album type contracts. Even if she decides no mas, the company can't let her go and Lauryn probably knows if she left, Columbia would sue her for negligence. But she's not the innocent in this. She agreed to whatever solo contract she signed and has to perform full obligations to it. Because she hasn't, she's tied to her label for life even if music is not #1 in her life anymore. I think she peaked anyway.

If they want to, Sony can sue her for not recording and giving them product. Another label is not likely to sign her anyway, if she's tied to a contract. The 2nd label can buy out her contract if they feel she is commercially viable.

rdhull said:

shorttrini said:

I think it's due to the fact that she bite off more than she could chew, and unestimated just how demanding and how hard the business was. When she realized it she turned and ran, hiding behind her bullshit view and antics... Leaving her fans as collateral damage. I for one, have no love for her...

C'mon. By the time Miseduc came out, she had been in the biz for about 10 years. She knew the game plan. Sista Act 2 as well.

She just doesnt have it in her to do it on her own. Folks used to get mad when it was said that 'Clef and other writer/producers aided her, and it seems its true. She did her own thing with Unplugged and it was tres rudimentary..the songs and the playing.

Hell..have u seen what she does to herself even without a typical makepup crew (that Pennywise clown shit she rocked lol).

She might have been out, 10 years and but, all of the stuff that she did during that period, was done as part of a cast or a group. It was not just her, up on that stage. There was always somebody who had her back, during those ten years. As soon as she went solo, it was all on her. She had nobody to blame or to fall back on, if things did not go right; or when things DID go right. I think this blew her mind and she was never the same after winning all those awards and the acolades that came with it. It's one thing to "know the game plan", it's a totally different animal, to live that game plan...She could not hack it and her motto became, "Exit stage left"....

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she had a perfect situation around her and she burned those bridges,so she is scared of competing with miseducation.there is no way an artist could make that album and just fall completely off.lauryn deceaved folks by making it seem like she was this one-woman force who created that album on her own when she clearly didnt,she got caught up in the hype then it came falling down and she couldnt handle it, so she started acting crazy.in contrast badu has remained true to herself, she may not have topped baduism but she has been consistant,and she manages to make music while making babies.lauryn is a one hit wonder period.

rdhull said:

Yall still falling for that non-commericalism/industry is bad okaydoke?

Its simply that Lauryn isnt talented enough to be consistent. Misedu. was a fluke. And she got a LOT of help.

THIS.

If Lauryn had nothing to do with the success of Miseducation and it all relied on other people's contributions, then explain to me why this brilliant group of people haven't released an album as good as Miseducation in Lauryn's absence?

If they have I haven't heard it. Can someone track down the credits of the musicians so i can see what they've done in the past ten years, because I haven't heard anything that has come close to the impact of Miseducation in her genre (Which is what; R&B-Hip Hop Hybrid).

Face it, Lauryn was THE creative driving force behind that project.

And I've read the credits on that album. Lauryn credits EVERY musician.

Anyone can be sued in this day and age, and sometimes even lose.