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Thread started 03/03/03 1:34pm

namepeace

Missy's Prince Influence

As much as I love Missy's new LP, I find it funny when she disses Prince twice on her record and then her or Timbaland manage to lift the hook from "Koo Koo" on one of her tracks.
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Reply #1 posted 03/03/03 1:43pm

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diss 'im twice? i heard about the supposed diss on "work it" (that ain't a diss, btw), but what's the other one?

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Reply #2 posted 03/03/03 1:53pm

TRON

She mentions something about assless pants in the intro to Pussycat I think.
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Reply #3 posted 03/03/03 1:53pm

TRON

Is it just me or does her voice remind you of the Jamie Starr alter-ego on "Gossip Folks".
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Reply #4 posted 03/03/03 1:54pm

classic77

It's not a diss. BTW I do not like the new album myself.
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Reply #5 posted 03/03/03 5:40pm

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Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.

Well... since then, Missy has made several innuendos directed at Prince. But I don't think it's so much a dis, but instead it's sort of like tongue in cheek acknowledgement with a wink and a nod, because I think one of the things that both Missy and Timbaland have tried to do in the hip-hop culture is keep things fresh. Whether one likes their work or not, one thing you can say about Missy and Timbaland is that their work stands out as being unique in the overcrowdedness of hip/hop right now. And I have to believe that they were at least somewhat motivated by Prince's constructive criticism of their work to get to this point.
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Reply #6 posted 03/03/03 7:50pm

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FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.

Well... since then, Missy has made several innuendos directed at Prince. But I don't think it's so much a dis, but instead it's sort of like tongue in cheek acknowledgement with a wink and a nod, because I think one of the things that both Missy and Timbaland have tried to do in the hip-hop culture is keep things fresh. Whether one likes their work or not, one thing you can say about Missy and Timbaland is that their work stands out as being unique in the overcrowdedness of hip/hop right now. And I have to believe that they were at least somewhat motivated by Prince's constructive criticism of their work to get to this point.


Good points. I really do like Missy and Timbaland. I personally think "One In A Million" is one of the better LPs to come out in years, thanks to Timbaland. Although Aaliyah, God bless her soul, should not have done "Got To Give It Up."
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Reply #7 posted 03/03/03 9:59pm

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FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.

Well... since then, Missy has made several innuendos directed at Prince. But I don't think it's so much a dis, but instead it's sort of like tongue in cheek acknowledgement with a wink and a nod, because I think one of the things that both Missy and Timbaland have tried to do in the hip-hop culture is keep things fresh. Whether one likes their work or not, one thing you can say about Missy and Timbaland is that their work stands out as being unique in the overcrowdedness of hip/hop right now. And I have to believe that they were at least somewhat motivated by Prince's constructive criticism of their work to get to this point.

In an interview I saw or read somewhere between 2001 and now, one of them, I think Timbaland, had mentioned the interview and he said that it made them realize that complaining wasn't doing them any good. They took his advice and as a result the music is better than ever IMO.
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Reply #8 posted 03/03/03 10:16pm

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FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.



he really should keep his yap shut on this kind of thing. he stopped doing anything new and different a couple years before Missy and Timbaland even appeared on the scene.
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/03 12:33am

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FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.

Well... since then, Missy has made several innuendos directed at Prince. But I don't think it's so much a dis, but instead it's sort of like tongue in cheek acknowledgement with a wink and a nod, because I think one of the things that both Missy and Timbaland have tried to do in the hip-hop culture is keep things fresh. Whether one likes their work or not, one thing you can say about Missy and Timbaland is that their work stands out as being unique in the overcrowdedness of hip/hop right now. And I have to believe that they were at least somewhat motivated by Prince's constructive criticism of their work to get to this point.

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Reply #10 posted 03/04/03 4:05am

Rhondab

I had no idea. But we also don't know if they actually have spoken to Prince and all the Missy stuff is some inside joke. You never know.
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Reply #11 posted 03/04/03 7:30am

Harlepolis

I love Missy's voice,,not the best I know but something about it makes me love it alot.

Much thanx 2 Baby girl 4 introducing them to us.
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Reply #12 posted 03/04/03 9:35am

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namepeace said:

As much as I love Missy's new LP, I find it funny when she disses Prince twice on her record and then her or Timbaland manage to lift the hook from "Koo Koo" on one of her tracks.



KOO KOOO???

Oh shit u gotta tell me!
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Reply #13 posted 03/04/03 2:50pm

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"Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different"

And Prince was wrong how? He was right on.And how is Tim and Missy doing anything new? By sampling old beats like Double-Dutch Bus or Peter Piper? They are both whack and over rated.
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Reply #14 posted 03/04/03 3:15pm

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intha916 said:

"Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different"

And Prince was wrong how? He was right on.And how is Tim and Missy doing anything new? By sampling old beats like Double-Dutch Bus or Peter Piper? They are both whack and over rated.


I never said Prince was wrong. Yes, Missy and Timbaland have sampled old songs, but not always. In the case of the Double-Dutch Bus song, even that sample does not form the basis or platform for the entire song the way many other hip/hop songs do (such as many of Puffy's songs) Double-Dutch is only added into the mix as sort of bridge. But regardless of all that, in general, Missy and Timbaland's "sound" is very distinct and in my opinion, it doesn't sound like they are simply trying to be like everyone else, and they have created many unique songs as far as hip/hop is concerned, that was my point. Whether you or anyone else likes what they create is beside the point.
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Reply #15 posted 03/04/03 3:56pm

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FutureShock said:

intha916 said:

"Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different"

And Prince was wrong how? He was right on.And how is Tim and Missy doing anything new? By sampling old beats like Double-Dutch Bus or Peter Piper? They are both whack and over rated.


I never said Prince was wrong. Yes, Missy and Timbaland have sampled old songs, but not always. In the case of the Double-Dutch Bus song, even that sample does not form the basis or platform for the entire song the way many other hip/hop songs do (such as many of Puffy's songs) Double-Dutch is only added into the mix as sort of bridge. But regardless of all that, in general, Missy and Timbaland's "sound" is very distinct and in my opinion, it doesn't sound like they are simply trying to be like everyone else, and they have created many unique songs as far as hip/hop is concerned, that was my point. Whether you or anyone else likes what they create is beside the point.


You know, I'll give you that the TRY and come with some different shit but it always seems forced and in turn doesn't seem creative at all in the end. It's more a case of them trying too hard to be different at the expense of a solid track. It's like they want us to say "Damn look how bugged out Missy is"
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Reply #16 posted 03/05/03 2:16pm

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AaronUnlimited said:

FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.



he really should keep his yap shut on this kind of thing. he stopped doing anything new and different a couple years before Missy and Timbaland even appeared on the scene.


You have a point there, my friend. Sadly, though he's had a lot of enjoyable stuff and a few near-classics, nothing's really hit me the way "Lovesexy" did.
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Reply #17 posted 03/06/03 11:54am

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namepeace said:

AaronUnlimited said:

FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.



he really should keep his yap shut on this kind of thing. he stopped doing anything new and different a couple years before Missy and Timbaland even appeared on the scene.


You have a point there, my friend. Sadly, though he's had a lot of enjoyable stuff and a few near-classics, nothing's really hit me the way "Lovesexy" did.


u cant compare everything 2 Lovesexy. Missy & Timbo hav 2 try 2 sound differnet becuz so much of the shit already sounds the same!
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Reply #18 posted 03/06/03 1:37pm

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paisleypark4 said:

namepeace said:

AaronUnlimited said:

FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.



he really should keep his yap shut on this kind of thing. he stopped doing anything new and different a couple years before Missy and Timbaland even appeared on the scene.


You have a point there, my friend. Sadly, though he's had a lot of enjoyable stuff and a few near-classics, nothing's really hit me the way "Lovesexy" did.


u cant compare everything 2 Lovesexy. Missy & Timbo hav 2 try 2 sound differnet becuz so much of the shit already sounds the same!
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Reply #19 posted 03/06/03 1:39pm

namepeace

namepeace said:

paisleypark4 said:

namepeace said:

AaronUnlimited said:

FutureShock said:

Who is dissin' who? A couple of years ago, Prince was the first to make a public criticism of Missy and Timbaland in an interview he conducted. Prince said that Missy and Timbaland were complaining because people were bitting their style. But Prince said that instead of complaining they just need to keep creating something new. He then when on to say how he (Prince) remained popular for so long is because he kept doing something new and different.



he really should keep his yap shut on this kind of thing. he stopped doing anything new and different a couple years before Missy and Timbaland even appeared on the scene.


You have a point there, my friend. Sadly, though he's had a lot of enjoyable stuff and a few near-classics, nothing's really hit me the way "Lovesexy" did.


u cant compare everything 2 Lovesexy. Missy & Timbo hav 2 try 2 sound differnet becuz so much of the shit already sounds the same!



Sorry, I hit post too soon.

It's not that I compare everything 2 Lovesexy, but nothing has really hit me the way Lovesexy did. I've found something to love on each LP since -- even TRC -- but no LP from beginning to end has connected with me since Lovesexy.
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