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Reply #30 posted 12/15/12 7:12am

JabarR74

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THIS TOUR WOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NKOTB HAS TURNED DOWNED THIS IDEA FOUR TIMES ALREADY. NEW EDITION WOULD MOP THE FLOOR WITH THIS GROUP. BOBBY TOLD ME HIMSELF THAT IF ACCEPTED THEIR OFFER TO GO OUT ON THE ROAD, HE WOULD STOP DRINKING AND DRUGGING JUST TO PUT THESE DUDES IN THEIR PLACE. NEW EDITION WAS WAY MORE POPULAR THEN THESE DUDES IN THEIR DAY. THE OLD TUNES STILL GET WAY MORE AIRPLAY THEN THEIRS. PLEASE THIS IS A JOKE.

No, they really just wouldn't have the draw for a WORLD tour as New Edition rarely had ANY success after 1985. They had a little blip in 1996 but truly no-one cared about them after that.

Um, you're forgetting about the Heart Break album, which was the biggest album of their careers. 4 million worldwide!!!

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Reply #31 posted 12/15/12 11:23am

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JabarR74 said:

Ellie said:

No, they really just wouldn't have the draw for a WORLD tour as New Edition rarely had ANY success after 1985. They had a little blip in 1996 but truly no-one cared about them after that.

Um, you're forgetting about the Heart Break album, which was the biggest album of their careers. 4 million worldwide!!!

Most of those sales are US though.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #32 posted 12/15/12 12:05pm

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MickyDolenz said:

JabarR74 said:

Um, you're forgetting about the Heart Break album, which was the biggest album of their careers. 4 million worldwide!!!

Most of those sales are US though.

Exactly. Look at their album and singles discographies with their chart positions in the major world music markets through their Wiki page. Put your hand over the left columns to cover up the US markets and it's really not much to write home about - certainly not to even consider playing an arena tour anywhere else:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Edition_discography

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Reply #33 posted 12/15/12 12:54pm

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Ellie said:

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Most of those sales are US though.

Exactly. Look at their album and singles discographies with their chart positions in the major world music markets through their Wiki page. Put your hand over the left columns to cover up the US markets and it's really not much to write home about - certainly not to even consider playing an arena tour anywhere else:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Edition_discography

Album sales from the past are not necessarily a good indicator of drawing a big audience today anyway. Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer sold really big during their time.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #34 posted 12/15/12 1:16pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Ellie said:

Exactly. Look at their album and singles discographies with their chart positions in the major world music markets through their Wiki page. Put your hand over the left columns to cover up the US markets and it's really not much to write home about - certainly not to even consider playing an arena tour anywhere else:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Edition_discography

Album sales from the past are not necessarily a good indicator of drawing a big audience today anyway. Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer sold really big during their time.

Vanilla Ice was a one hit wonder worldwide. MC Hammer maybe 3 hits. None of them had especially big album sales outside the US.

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Reply #35 posted 12/15/12 1:29pm

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Ellie said:

MickyDolenz said:

Album sales from the past are not necessarily a good indicator of drawing a big audience today anyway. Vanilla Ice & MC Hammer sold really big during their time.

Vanilla Ice was a one hit wonder worldwide. MC Hammer maybe 3 hits. None of them had especially big album sales outside the US.

Not many "one hit wonders" sold over 10 million albums though, most only had a hit single. razz Today, Vanilla Ice is not a big concert draw, even in the US. He has some kind of house renovating TV show now.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #36 posted 12/16/12 12:12am

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THIS TOUR WOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NKOTB HAS TURNED DOWNED THIS IDEA FOUR TIMES ALREADY. NEW EDITION WOULD MOP THE FLOOR WITH THIS GROUP. BOBBY TOLD ME HIMSELF THAT IF ACCEPTED THEIR OFFER TO GO OUT ON THE ROAD, HE WOULD STOP DRINKING AND DRUGGING JUST TO PUT THESE DUDES IN THEIR PLACE. NEW EDITION WAS WAY MORE POPULAR THEN THESE DUDES IN THEIR DAY. THE OLD TUNES STILL GET WAY MORE AIRPLAY THEN THEIRS. PLEASE THIS IS A JOKE.

No, they really just wouldn't have the draw for a WORLD tour as New Edition rarely had ANY success after 1985. They had a little blip in 1996 but truly no-one cared about them after that.

the ne heartbreak tour was a succesful tour. the home alone tour was successful. this current tour is successful.

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Reply #37 posted 12/18/12 1:51pm

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You're forgetting about NE as solo acts!!!!!!!!!

Did any of them have dolls, bedsheets, lamps, lunch boxes, etc.? Bobby Brown had the most crossover success, but it's kind of forgotten today. BBD was 2nd, mainly the 1st album. Ralph and Johnny had less pop success. Their audience was still primarily black. NE as a group and as splinter acts still did not have the same level of success as NKOTB as a group. New Kids didn't have much radio success as solo acts though. So NE has them beat there.

It's like comparing Elvis Presley & Fats Domino. Sure Fats had some success, but his popularity was nowhere near Elvis', and still isn't.

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New Kids were str8 trash after 1991 we are talking longevity here. No 1 I mean no 1 was checking 4 New Kids. NE had stars with in the group. Bobby was doing the damn thang around 88-93 Ralph and Johnny had very good solo albums and BBD hell u already know what time it is. Not even the Beatles or Rolling Stones had evey member drop solo joints that made them bigger stars then come back 2gether John Lennon Paul, Ringo, George never left and came back BIGGER no group Pop, R&B, Hip Hop has ever done or had the success NE has had overall longevity wise not selling albums and still have the original line up. NKOTB never released solo joints except Jordan Knight and Joey Mac. NE & NKOTB would work tour wise but never get it twisted on who are the OG's of modern day Boy bands R. New Edtion Happy 30th 1983-2013...and beyond.

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Reply #38 posted 12/22/12 5:27pm

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Reply #39 posted 12/23/12 5:22am

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I think it would be really nice and successful. If it appeals to two audiences, the sales might be high and there could be double dates

I also think the Jacksons and NE, as someone mentioned touring would really work, but the Jacksons have too much of an ego to tour with other acts. They were successful this past year with touring, and will bring in even more attention pairing themselves with NE.

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Reply #40 posted 12/25/12 7:09pm

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Reply #41 posted 01/22/13 8:39am

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No NE, but the New Kids just announced on The View that they're going on a tour with Boyz II Men and 98 Degrees. They also said they're going to release an album soon.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #42 posted 01/22/13 8:41am

JabarR74

Oh well, sooner or later the NE/NKOTB tour is bound to happen.

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Reply #43 posted 01/22/13 9:01am

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Boyz II Men were asked anout Michael McCary, and they said he's welcome back anytime he wants to return. Donnie mentioned New Edition as being an inspiration as well as Jackie Wilson, The Temptations, and some other acts.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #44 posted 01/28/13 5:26am

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Now an NE-Jacksons tor might selout arenas. NKOTB/NE would haveworked kinda cause they have the same manager and are from the same city. BUT NEway it's kinda gonna happen cause BoysIIMen are associated with NE. And now who are Heads Of State?

I usually think of Michael,Janet,Madonna,Mariah and Prince as the big superstar acts of the 80s&90s.Never considered TLC superstars and just found out they sold 15 million. I would say NE were not much smaller than TLC but their highest onl sold 4 million? There was Whitney,Tina,George Michael, Toni(Braxton), and Marry J. Blige. Don't know if any of them did but are there any othr acts thatsold over 10 million. I mean yeah Depeche Mode,U2, and The Police were superstars but outsid eof Rock/Alt.

Working up a purple sweat.
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Reply #45 posted 01/28/13 6:58am

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^^Please Don't Go Girl & Whatcha Gonna Do About It did get R&B airplay, and I remember seeing New Kids on Showtime At The Apollo. But pop radio went crazy over them, playing them constantly. They became so popular that their debut, which was little known originally, went multi-platinum. I remember they even had a call line. I don't recall the exact price, but I think it was $3.99 a minute.



Don't you think you go too far at times to prove a point. lol
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that knotb was more popular
mainstream. Blacks make up less than 15 percent of the US population
so it's not 200 level university math here. You then proceeded to bring up
the call line. falloff LL Cool J had a call line during the I Need Love era.
A call line is irrelevant to the music. It was all a bullshit ploy to get
teenage girls with hormones jumping all over the place to bring in more
revenue and run up their parents phone bill. lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #46 posted 01/28/13 7:15am

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Ellie said:



jackson35 said:


THIS TOUR WOULD NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE NKOTB HAS TURNED DOWNED THIS IDEA FOUR TIMES ALREADY. NEW EDITION WOULD MOP THE FLOOR WITH THIS GROUP. BOBBY TOLD ME HIMSELF THAT IF ACCEPTED THEIR OFFER TO GO OUT ON THE ROAD, HE WOULD STOP DRINKING AND DRUGGING JUST TO PUT THESE DUDES IN THEIR PLACE. NEW EDITION WAS WAY MORE POPULAR THEN THESE DUDES IN THEIR DAY. THE OLD TUNES STILL GET WAY MORE AIRPLAY THEN THEIRS. PLEASE THIS IS A JOKE.




No, they really just wouldn't have the draw for a WORLD tour as New Edition rarely had ANY success after 1985. They had a little blip in 1996 but truly no-one cared about them after that.



Not true. New Edition had one of their more successful albums and tour with
1988 NE Heartbreak. They were overshadowed somewhat by Bobby Brown's 1988
Don't Be Cruel tour and album mainly because teens were more into Bobby's
danceable new jack swing sound versus NE's more mellowed NE Heartbreak which
is why New Edition remixed a couple of the albums tunes to fit in with
the new jack sound.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #47 posted 02/05/13 12:13pm

JabarR74

Happy 44th Birthday to

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