TRON said: AaronFantastic said: yioryos said: Moonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: i'm glad somebody bumped this thread back up here. i still say Kylie. two times, for her status as a 2-time 1-hit wonder
Kylie had 5 hits not two. She also scored in the US with Love At First Sight (23), I Should Be So Lucky (28) and It;s No Secret (37). So she's not a two-rimes one-hit wonder, Plus her status around the world disqualifies her for this topic you haven't made it til you've made it in America. and i guess if you count having a hit once every 15 years, then she's made it. i concede. define 'making it'. nevermind. [This message was edited Sun Mar 16 3:27:46 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic] | |
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nevermind. [This message was edited Sun Mar 16 3:31:43 PST 2003 by TRON] | |
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AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: TRON said: Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.
i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong, as always. I'll let you win. This place means a lot more to you than it does me anyway. I don't understand why you purposely try to piss me off about this. I don't know why you let it piss you off. This place doesn't really mean that much to me at all. I don't know why you get so upset because someone says that someone you like sucks, when you do exactly the same thing all the time. How many times have you said that the Beatles suck? And you don't even have a reason for it. Actually, I avoid the Beatles threads 9 out of 10 times. I haven't said anything about Elton John. Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music. It gets tiring. It's not my fault you're wrong about Kylie and Rave actually being good Look, Ian. I get the impression that you think I'm picking on you. Or at least, that you get awfully offended when someone says something bad about Kylie. I don't want you to think I'm picking a fight with you or something. About Kylie or about Rave. This is the second time on this thread that you've taken something I've said about Kylie and turned it into some personal issue with you. Guess what: What I say about Kylie or Rave on this site is not meant as an insult or slight to you. In fact, I don't even have you in mind when I say them. I'm sorry if what I say offends you, but if you want to make this some kind of recurring personal argumet, well, on a Saturday night at 2:30 in the morning when I'm not doing anything else, I don't mind arguing, discussing, debating whatever, wherever, whenever, however. I mean, obviously my time isn't that valuable this time of night. But I don't want you to think that I'm saying this stuff to provoke some response or fight out of you. If I was doing that, I'd be all over the site, picking up on every comment you made about any artist and just bashing them, whether I hated them, liked them, or was ambivalent about them. I could take or leave the Eurythmics and Aaliyah, but if I was looking to start arguments with you, I'd be knocking both of them left and right, just to provoke some response from you. You know this. But this isn't what's happening. I'm sorry if you take these Kylie arguments personally, but there's nothing I can do about it when you're picking up on some message I posted 24 hours prior to turn into this same old argument. You said “Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music.” Take a look at how our arguments on this thread developed and tell me that’s how it happened. I don't like Kylie. So what? Why are you offended by me not liking her? I knocked Anastascia in my very next post, but somehow the one about Kylie is meant for you and the one about Anastascia is not the exact same thing. I like Justin Timberlake, but I don't make a federal case out of it when you make fun of him. I like the Backstreet Boys, but I realize that there's going to be a lot of criticism of them (and of me for liking them). I'm not offended when people don't like what I like. I wish you could feel the same way, and get a thicker skin about this. (edit) additionally, take a look at your alphabet soup threads. you regularly put emoticons expressing your joy or sorrow for songs that were voted off or kept. but if anyone says something about Rave or Peach, holy shit look out, it's like they've insulted your mother. Ian, why do you get to express your opinions, harsh or positive, and i don't without you taking it as some kind of personal insult or attack on you? [This message was edited Sun Mar 16 3:43:13 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic] so Ian, did you read this or not? | |
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I am not qualified to play this game...
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Hey guys, if you're talking about Led Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" not charting it's simply because it was never released as a single. The band members never wanted it released as a single.
And as far as Allmusic.com goes; there are indeed inaccuracies on the site. I used to have to work with that site at one time, and the more I used it, the more I found out their info isn't always 100% reliable. Example: there was a jazz producer who I queried about a specific credit on a remaster he worked on (and I figured it was wrong but wanted to make sure), and he told me the credit listed on Allmusic.com was an error. Also, Prince's 1999 album is listed as being released in February 1983, when in actuality it was released in the Fall of 1982. But I don't think I've ever checked the Billboard information thru that site, so I don't know about that. It's a good site as far as its overall layout and content, but sometimes you have to double-check things if you want to be totally accurate. . . [This message was edited Mon Mar 17 0:52:05 PST 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: Hey guys, if you're talking about Led Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" not charting it's simply because it was never released as a single. The band members never wanted it released as a single.
And as far as Allmusic.com goes; there are indeed inaccuracies on the site. I used to have to work with that site at one time, and the more I used it, the more I found out their info isn't always 100% reliable. Example: there was a jazz producer who I queried about a specific credit on a remaster he worked on (and I figured it was wrong but wanted to make sure), and he told me the credit listed on Allmusic.com was an error. Also, Prince's 1999 album is listed as being released in February 1983, when in actuality it was released in the Fall of 1982. But I don't think I've ever checked the Billboard information thru that site, so I don't know about that. It's a good site as far as its overall layout and content, but sometimes you have to double-check things if you want to be totally accurate. . allmusic.com's Billboard entries are inaccurate. I'm not sure that what's there is wrong, but I know that the entries for many of the singles/albums are incomplete. I don't generally use it, but just a few of the things I've looked up there for Billboard chart placings have been woefully incomplete. But not always. Sometimes they're very thorough, and sometimes they're full of holes. | |
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Terrance Trent Darby,the moment he said he was funkier than Prince I just knew he was gonna blow over.Whatever happened to that brother? | |
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boopgun said: Terrance Trent Darby,the moment he said he was funkier than Prince I just knew he was gonna blow over.Whatever happened to that brother?
TTD changed his name to Sananda Maitreya some years ago. He's still doing fantastic music, he's on tour promoting his current album "Wildcard Jokers' Edition" and if you want to get more info go to his site http://www.sanandapromotion.com/ With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Moonbeam said: TRON said: I think that it's relative to if an American single is released. "Are You That Somebody?" by Aaliyah might've been the biggest single of that year, but it didn't chart very high either because there was no single release for it. Anyway, who cares?
Good point! That only got to number 21 on the US chart. The US chart has never been really accurate as far as depicting the success of a single on the radio. I think the ARC chart is much more reflective of chart success. They changed that rule right after "Are You That Somebody?" peaked! It changed the way that sogns become hits...unfornately for the worse but I did love that song and it isn't one I minded hearing every five mintues. As for my picks of people I thought would be one hit wonders. Pink and Avril! I guess I can't run Arista records (into the ground). When If rist saw Pink ("There You Go"), I kinda liked her that her voice had a real R&B vibe but laughed when I saw her hair! And the song was reptitive! And Avril was so annonying with her boy's clothes and skateboarding. Punk-pop is awful and her "Complicated" didn't help make a case for all the other 20 year old skater brats with no talent! And a TRL hit does not a real hit record make! Examples? A Backstreet song "The Call" only hit 52 on the pop charts (altough, surprsingly, all of their ohohter TRL are singles are Top 30 and Top ten in some cases). Nsync. "Tearin' Up My Heart"-59. "I Drive Myself Crazy"-67. Spears "Overprocted", which I kind of like, only hit 86! Her song from Austin Powers, "Boys" didn't even make the pop charts! But in the case of Kylie's second "Fever" single for the US, "Love At First Sight", it did well at 23. While the pop charts aren't that legit, I still think they are better than TRl! And her other eighties single, "I Should Be So Lucky" didn't do too bad either at 28! ("It's No Secret" was a respectable 37). I find it odd that they called her a one hit wonder. She had other hits, but they weren't blockbusters like "Locomotion". | |
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