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Reply #60 posted 03/16/03 12:23am

AaronFantastic

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TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.




did it hit #1 on TRL?
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Reply #61 posted 03/16/03 12:24am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral


Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong, as always. I'll let you win. This place means a lot more to you than it does me anyway. I don't understand why you purposely try to piss me off about this.



I don't know why you let it piss you off. This place doesn't really mean that much to me at all. I don't know why you get so upset because someone says that someone you like sucks, when you do exactly the same thing all the time. How many times have you said that the Beatles suck? And you don't even have a reason for it.


Actually, I avoid the Beatles threads 9 out of 10 times. I haven't said anything about Elton John. Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music. It gets tiring.
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Reply #62 posted 03/16/03 12:25am

TRON

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.


did it hit #1 on TRL?
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Reply #63 posted 03/16/03 12:26am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.
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Reply #64 posted 03/16/03 12:29am

AaronFantastic

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TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.





did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html
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Reply #65 posted 03/16/03 12:33am

TRON

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html
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Reply #66 posted 03/16/03 12:34am

AaronFantastic

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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"
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Reply #67 posted 03/16/03 12:37am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"


"Stairway to Heaven" didn't chart on anything.
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Reply #68 posted 03/16/03 12:39am

TRON

I think that it's relative to if an American single is released. "Are You That Somebody?" by Aaliyah might've been the biggest single of that year, but it didn't chart very high either because there was no single release for it. Anyway, who cares? confuse
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Reply #69 posted 03/16/03 12:41am

Moonbeam

TRON said:

I think that it's relative to if an American single is released. "Are You That Somebody?" by Aaliyah might've been the biggest single of that year, but it didn't chart very high either because there was no single release for it. Anyway, who cares? confuse


Good point! That only got to number 21 on the US chart. The US chart has never been really accurate as far as depicting the success of a single on the radio. I think the ARC chart is much more reflective of chart success.
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Reply #70 posted 03/16/03 12:46am

Sandra

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AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:


Anastacia



she'd need to have a hit to be a one-hit wonder biggrin


You just dont like her, do you? smile
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Reply #71 posted 03/16/03 12:51am

AaronFantastic

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TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.






did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



Love At First Sight's TRL performance:


7-8-7-10-6-3-4-4-6-5-6-10-9-10-8-10-8-4-4-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-3-4-5-7-4-2-2-3-4-7-10-7-10-7-10-8-5-skull-10-9-8-8-7-5



yeah, i suppose she had a good week and a half in there. look out USA, here comes the conquering Kylie rolleyes a bunch of teenagers called an a free 800 # to vote, so i guess that means it's a hit. even though it didn't translate into radio airplay or singles & album sales.
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Reply #72 posted 03/16/03 12:52am

AaronFantastic

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Sandra said:

AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:


Anastacia



she'd need to have a hit to be a one-hit wonder biggrin


You just dont like her, do you? smile



she's not that bad. there's just something "off" about her whole thing.


btw, has she had a hit yet? i mean, outside of a Dr. Pepper commercial smile
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Reply #73 posted 03/16/03 12:54am

AaronFantastic

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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"


"Stairway to Heaven" didn't chart on anything.



"on anything" ... you have access to the rock radio charts from the 70's? confuse
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Reply #74 posted 03/16/03 12:55am

Sandra

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AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:

AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:


Anastacia



she'd need to have a hit to be a one-hit wonder biggrin


You just dont like her, do you? smile



she's not that bad. there's just something "off" about her whole thing.


btw, has she had a hit yet? i mean, outside of a Dr. Pepper commercial smile


"I'm outta Love" and "I paid my dues" was kinda big here in Denmark and Europe.. "I'm outta love" was a huge hit..!

What do you mean with "just something 'off' about her"?
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Reply #75 posted 03/16/03 12:57am

AaronFantastic

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Moonbeam said:

TRON said:

I think that it's relative to if an American single is released. "Are You That Somebody?" by Aaliyah might've been the biggest single of that year, but it didn't chart very high either because there was no single release for it. Anyway, who cares? confuse


Good point! That only got to number 21 on the US chart. The US chart has never been really accurate as far as depicting the success of a single on the radio. I think the ARC chart is much more reflective of chart success.



that's because radio airplay is not about popularity with the listening audience, but how many palms in the industry the label reps can grease.

people putting down money for a single/album has always been a much better indicator of music popularity than radio. radio is rigged. always was, and still is.
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Reply #76 posted 03/16/03 12:57am

TRON

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.






did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



Love At First Sight's TRL performance:


7-8-7-10-6-3-4-4-6-5-6-10-9-10-8-10-8-4-4-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-3-4-5-7-4-2-2-3-4-7-10-7-10-7-10-8-5-skull-10-9-8-8-7-5



yeah, i suppose she had a good week and a half in there. look out USA, here comes the conquering Kylie rolleyes a bunch of teenagers called an a free 800 # to vote, so i guess that means it's a hit. even though it didn't translate into radio airplay or singles & album sales.

I can't believe you went to the effort to look this up! lol
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Reply #77 posted 03/16/03 12:57am

AaronFantastic

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Sandra said:

AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:

AaronFantastic said:

Sandra said:


Anastacia



she'd need to have a hit to be a one-hit wonder biggrin


You just dont like her, do you? smile



she's not that bad. there's just something "off" about her whole thing.


btw, has she had a hit yet? i mean, outside of a Dr. Pepper commercial smile


"I'm outta Love" and "I paid my dues" was kinda big here in Denmark and Europe.. "I'm outta love" was a huge hit..!

What do you mean with "just something 'off' about her"?



I'm not sure. It's something I can't put my finger on. The coats? The glasses? I dunno...
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Reply #78 posted 03/16/03 12:58am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"


"Stairway to Heaven" didn't chart on anything.



"on anything" ... you have access to the rock radio charts from the 70's? confuse


Any chart appearance on BILLBOARD can be found at allmusic.com. I'm not sure if that would include rock radio (I'm not sure if there was even a chart for that back then), but it doesn't appear on any of the charts made available. It also isn't mentioned in a comprehensive book I have that includes chart performances. If it did chart on something, I haven't been able to find it with any of my resources.
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Reply #79 posted 03/16/03 12:58am

AaronFantastic

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TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.






did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



Love At First Sight's TRL performance:


7-8-7-10-6-3-4-4-6-5-6-10-9-10-8-10-8-4-4-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-3-4-5-7-4-2-2-3-4-7-10-7-10-7-10-8-5-skull-10-9-8-8-7-5



yeah, i suppose she had a good week and a half in there. look out USA, here comes the conquering Kylie rolleyes a bunch of teenagers called an a free 800 # to vote, so i guess that means it's a hit. even though it didn't translate into radio airplay or singles & album sales.

I can't believe you went to the effort to look this up! lol



you know me... i never give up a fight biggrin
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Reply #80 posted 03/16/03 12:58am

AaronFantastic

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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"


"Stairway to Heaven" didn't chart on anything.



"on anything" ... you have access to the rock radio charts from the 70's? confuse


Any chart appearance on BILLBOARD can be found at allmusic.com.



actually, that's not true at all. allmusic.com's Billboard section for each album/single is grossly incomplete.
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Reply #81 posted 03/16/03 1:00am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.






did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



Love At First Sight's TRL performance:


7-8-7-10-6-3-4-4-6-5-6-10-9-10-8-10-8-4-4-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-3-4-5-7-4-2-2-3-4-7-10-7-10-7-10-8-5-skull-10-9-8-8-7-5



yeah, i suppose she had a good week and a half in there. look out USA, here comes the conquering Kylie rolleyes a bunch of teenagers called an a free 800 # to vote, so i guess that means it's a hit. even though it didn't translate into radio airplay or singles & album sales.


LAFS did not have a domestic single released. It also reached the top spot on the dance chart. "Fever" has gone platinum, which is not a small achievement for someone who virtually came out of nowhere.
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Reply #82 posted 03/16/03 1:00am

TRON

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.

Anything that gets to #1 on TRL is a legitimate hit in my book.






did it hit #1 on TRL?


I believe it was between the #3 and #1 spots for at least a couple weeks, competing with Justin's first single and something else. I was surprised too, but Shakira had similar success. I didn't know they would be so popular with a teen audience.



i just checked. it didnt: http://absolutetrl.net/re.../ones.html


Then it was steadily at the #2 and #3 spot fighting with #1. I know this for a fact.



Love At First Sight's TRL performance:


7-8-7-10-6-3-4-4-6-5-6-10-9-10-8-10-8-4-4-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-3-4-5-7-4-2-2-3-4-7-10-7-10-7-10-8-5-skull-10-9-8-8-7-5



yeah, i suppose she had a good week and a half in there. look out USA, here comes the conquering Kylie rolleyes a bunch of teenagers called an a free 800 # to vote, so i guess that means it's a hit. even though it didn't translate into radio airplay or singles & album sales.

I can't believe you went to the effort to look this up! lol



you know me... i never give up a fight biggrin

But why fight about something that absolutely doesn't matter? Especially at the expense of others.
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Reply #83 posted 03/16/03 1:00am

Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral

Actually, I was talking about the fact that 'Love At First Sight' was a hit. A fairly big one too. .



actually it wasn't. it didn't crack the top 20.


Neither did "Into the Groove," "Gett Off," "Stairway to Heaven," "Don't Speak" or "Go Deep," but all seem huge enough to me.



Gett Off was not huge. nor was Go Deep. they may seem huge to you (and even me) because we're fans of the artists. but they were NOT all over radio.

and the other 2 charted highly on the charts they were aimed at. and since Kylie is aimed at the top 40, for her to miss the top 20 qualifies it as "not a hit"


"Stairway to Heaven" didn't chart on anything.



"on anything" ... you have access to the rock radio charts from the 70's? confuse


Any chart appearance on BILLBOARD can be found at allmusic.com.



actually, that's not true at all. allmusic.com's Billboard section for each album/single is grossly incomplete.


Give me some examples.
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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral


Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong, as always. I'll let you win. This place means a lot more to you than it does me anyway. I don't understand why you purposely try to piss me off about this.



I don't know why you let it piss you off. This place doesn't really mean that much to me at all. I don't know why you get so upset because someone says that someone you like sucks, when you do exactly the same thing all the time. How many times have you said that the Beatles suck? And you don't even have a reason for it.


Actually, I avoid the Beatles threads 9 out of 10 times. I haven't said anything about Elton John. Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music. It gets tiring.



It's not my fault you're wrong about Kylie and Rave actually being good biggrin
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Moonbeam

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral


Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong, as always. I'll let you win. This place means a lot more to you than it does me anyway. I don't understand why you purposely try to piss me off about this.



I don't know why you let it piss you off. This place doesn't really mean that much to me at all. I don't know why you get so upset because someone says that someone you like sucks, when you do exactly the same thing all the time. How many times have you said that the Beatles suck? And you don't even have a reason for it.


Actually, I avoid the Beatles threads 9 out of 10 times. I haven't said anything about Elton John. Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music. It gets tiring.



It's not my fault you're wrong about Kylie and Rave actually being good biggrin


finger
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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

i'm glad somebody bumped this thread back up here. i still say Kylie. two times, for her status as a 2-time 1-hit wonder biggrin


rolleyes


Kylie had 5 hits not two. She also scored in the US with Love At First Sight (23), I Should Be So Lucky (28) and It;s No Secret (37). So she's not a two-rimes one-hit wonder, Plus her status around the world disqualifies her for this topic
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Reply #87 posted 03/16/03 3:02am

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yioryos said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

i'm glad somebody bumped this thread back up here. i still say Kylie. two times, for her status as a 2-time 1-hit wonder biggrin


rolleyes


Kylie had 5 hits not two. She also scored in the US with Love At First Sight (23), I Should Be So Lucky (28) and It;s No Secret (37). So she's not a two-rimes one-hit wonder, Plus her status around the world disqualifies her for this topic



rolleyes you haven't made it til you've made it in America. and i guess if you count having a hit once every 15 years, then she's made it. i concede.
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Reply #88 posted 03/16/03 3:07am

TRON

AaronFantastic said:

yioryos said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

i'm glad somebody bumped this thread back up here. i still say Kylie. two times, for her status as a 2-time 1-hit wonder biggrin


rolleyes


Kylie had 5 hits not two. She also scored in the US with Love At First Sight (23), I Should Be So Lucky (28) and It;s No Secret (37). So she's not a two-rimes one-hit wonder, Plus her status around the world disqualifies her for this topic



rolleyes you haven't made it til you've made it in America. and i guess if you count having a hit once every 15 years, then she's made it. i concede.

define 'making it'.
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Reply #89 posted 03/16/03 3:18am

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Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

Moonbeam said:

AaronFantastic said:

TRON said:

Sometimes, people just ignore the facts.



i know. i wish everyone would accept the fact that Kylie is a talentless tart that's wouldn't know what to say or do if Madonna hadn't done it 2 years earlier, and she was lucky enough to get lucky with real honest-to-goodness American success twice. neutral


Whatever. You're right, I'm wrong, as always. I'll let you win. This place means a lot more to you than it does me anyway. I don't understand why you purposely try to piss me off about this.



I don't know why you let it piss you off. This place doesn't really mean that much to me at all. I don't know why you get so upset because someone says that someone you like sucks, when you do exactly the same thing all the time. How many times have you said that the Beatles suck? And you don't even have a reason for it.


Actually, I avoid the Beatles threads 9 out of 10 times. I haven't said anything about Elton John. Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music. It gets tiring.



It's not my fault you're wrong about Kylie and Rave actually being good biggrin


finger



Look, Ian. I get the impression that you think I'm picking on you. Or at least, that you get awfully offended when someone says something bad about Kylie. I don't want you to think I'm picking a fight with you or something. About Kylie or about Rave. This is the second time on this thread that you've taken something I've said about Kylie and turned it into some personal issue with you. Guess what: What I say about Kylie or Rave on this site is not meant as an insult or slight to you. In fact, I don't even have you in mind when I say them. I'm sorry if what I say offends you, but if you want to make this some kind of recurring personal argumet, well, on a Saturday night at 2:30 in the morning when I'm not doing anything else, I don't mind arguing, discussing, debating whatever, wherever, whenever, however. I mean, obviously my time isn't that valuable this time of night. But I don't want you to think that I'm saying this stuff to provoke some response or fight out of you. If I was doing that, I'd be all over the site, picking up on every comment you made about any artist and just bashing them, whether I hated them, liked them, or was ambivalent about them. I could take or leave the Eurythmics and Aaliyah, but if I was looking to start arguments with you, I'd be knocking both of them left and right, just to provoke some response from you. You know this. But this isn't what's happening. I'm sorry if you take these Kylie arguments personally, but there's nothing I can do about it when you're picking up on some message I posted 24 hours prior to turn into this same old argument. You said “Recently, you've had to oppose EVERYTHING that I say related to music.” Take a look at how our arguments on this thread developed and tell me that’s how it happened. I don't like Kylie. So what? Why are you offended by me not liking her? I knocked Anastascia in my very next post, but somehow the one about Kylie is meant for you and the one about Anastascia is not the exact same thing. I like Justin Timberlake, but I don't make a federal case out of it when you make fun of him. I like the Backstreet Boys, but I realize that there's going to be a lot of criticism of them (and of me for liking them). I'm not offended when people don't like what I like. I wish you could feel the same way, and get a thicker skin about this.



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additionally, take a look at your alphabet soup threads. you regularly put emoticons expressing your joy or sorrow for songs that were voted off or kept. but if anyone says something about Rave or Peach, holy shit look out, it's like they've insulted your mother. Ian, why do you get to express your opinions, harsh or positive, and i don't without you taking it as some kind of personal insult or attack on you?
[This message was edited Sun Mar 16 3:43:13 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic]
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