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Thread started 12/02/12 6:39pm

scriptgirl

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Would you consider Bill Withers a musical genius?

Happened to run across that Lovely Day Gap commercial on youtube and I have been listening to him nonstop for a few days now. Thoughts?

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Reply #1 posted 12/02/12 6:57pm

TD3

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No, Mr. Wither is an exceptionally gifted singer and songwriter. Again, the words genius, diva, and legend have been abused and misused.

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Reply #2 posted 12/02/12 7:04pm

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I agree with the above poster about him being a great songwriter and he has an exceptional talent to convey so much emotion with his voice.

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Reply #3 posted 12/02/12 7:13pm

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TD3 said:

No, Mr. Wither is an exceptionally gifted singer and songwriter. Again, the words genius, diva, and legend have been abused and misused.

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Reply #4 posted 12/02/12 7:45pm

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I would consider him, to be a musical genius. Why? Because, unlike some who have over stayed their welcome, he had enough sense to get out.

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Reply #5 posted 12/02/12 8:01pm

Timmy84

That's a smart man, not a musical genius. lol

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Reply #6 posted 12/02/12 9:13pm

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Bill Withers songs are very simple... but GREAT!

i think his writing is fantatsic... i wouldn't say genius.

But as a writer he is a 10/10 cool

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Reply #7 posted 12/02/12 9:22pm

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TD3 said:

No, Mr. Wither is an exceptionally gifted singer and songwriter. Again, the words genius, diva, and legend have been abused and misused.

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Reply #8 posted 12/02/12 10:26pm

shorttrini

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Timmy84 said:

That's a smart man, not a musical genius. lol

Considering most won't take his lead and continue to stay in, makes him a genius.... lol lol

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Reply #9 posted 12/02/12 10:49pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

That's a smart man, not a musical genius. lol

Considering most won't take his lead and continue to stay in, makes him a genius.... lol lol

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Reply #10 posted 12/02/12 10:58pm

Graycap23

Not even close.

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Reply #11 posted 12/03/12 12:39am

mjscarousal

Great artist! I wouldnt call him a musical genius though. Now what could be argued is whether or not he is a legend or not.

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Reply #12 posted 12/03/12 1:35am

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Not sure of a genius, I would consider him a R&B Legend.

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Reply #13 posted 12/03/12 1:37am

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Not sure of a genius, I would consider him a R&B Legend.

And that's good enough. "Lean on Me", "Use Me", "Who Is She", "Lovely Day", "Just the Two of Us"? Yeah. lol

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Reply #14 posted 12/03/12 1:43am

mjscarousal

I think R&B legend is a more fitting title nod

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Reply #15 posted 12/03/12 1:57am

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Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Not sure of a genius, I would consider him a R&B Legend.

And that's good enough. "Lean on Me", "Use Me", "Who Is She", "Lovely Day", "Just the Two of Us"? Yeah. lol

But really, what is a genius? Is Bobby Womack a genius?

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Reply #16 posted 12/03/12 2:00am

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

And that's good enough. "Lean on Me", "Use Me", "Who Is She", "Lovely Day", "Just the Two of Us"? Yeah. lol

But really, what is a genius? Is Bobby Womack a genius?

Hmm... I don't think I would consider Womack a genius. Just a talented and gifted singer-songwriter. shrug

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Reply #17 posted 12/03/12 5:40am

HuMpThAnG

He isn't, but D'angelo is?......ooookkkkaaaaay rolleyes

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Reply #18 posted 12/03/12 6:05am

Timmy84

HuMpThAnG said:

He isn't, but D'angelo is?......ooookkkkaaaaay rolleyes

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Reply #19 posted 12/03/12 6:52am

fred12

I consider him a great songwriter

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Reply #20 posted 12/03/12 8:06am

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Definitely one of my favourite voices - so effortless.

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Reply #21 posted 12/03/12 11:18am

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This word 'genius' is the problem here, I think. It seems easier to apply to someone who's a pioneer of a new style or sound, or a new way of making music, or at least someone who's an all-rounder. But lots of the greats don't fall into that category; they just do something very, very well. That's where I'd put Bill. He's one of the most thoughtful, honest songwriters in that whole genre of music - 'up there' with Gil Scott-Heron or Curtis Mayfield - as well as being a soulful vocalist, and his classic albums have a great 'sound' and solid musicianship. So, for me, he certainly deserves to be ranked amongst the greats of Black music, and popular music as a whole. It's just that that 'genius' tag seems like the wrong one to hang on him.

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Reply #22 posted 12/03/12 2:08pm

Graycap23

There has ONLY been 1 musical genius in the last 2 centuries.

I'll give u 1 guess 2 what his name is.

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Reply #23 posted 12/03/12 4:33pm

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Graycap23 said:

There has ONLY been 1 musical genius in the last 2 centuries.

I'll give u 1 guess 2 what his name is.

well it damn sure ain't PRINCE!

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Reply #24 posted 12/03/12 4:34pm

funkyhead

how do you define genius? Anyone who listens to his first 2 albums surely must recognise that he, IMHO is a true genius. Some of those songs are simply untouchable.

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Reply #25 posted 12/03/12 6:04pm

SoulAlive

to my ears,he is a genuis.I love his music music I bought myself the box set that contains all of his albums...my Christmas present to myself,lol.

It's a shame that we don't have artists like Bill Withers,these days.

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Reply #26 posted 12/03/12 11:12pm

HuMpThAnG

funkyhead said:

Graycap23 said:

There has ONLY been 1 musical genius in the last 2 centuries.

I'll give u 1 guess 2 what his name is.

well it damn sure ain't PRINCE!

OUCH!!!

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Reply #27 posted 12/03/12 11:26pm

mjscarousal

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Graycap23 said:

There has ONLY been 1 musical genius in the last 2 centuries.

I'll give u 1 guess 2 what his name is.

well it damn sure ain't PRINCE!

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Reply #28 posted 12/04/12 12:19am

thesoulbrother

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No.

Great vocalist and songwriter but that word "musical genius" gets thrown around too much these days.

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Reply #29 posted 12/04/12 12:21am

Timmy84

funkyhead said:

Graycap23 said:

There has ONLY been 1 musical genius in the last 2 centuries.

I'll give u 1 guess 2 what his name is.

well it damn sure ain't PRINCE!

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