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Thread started 11/08/12 8:49pm

scriptgirl

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How would you rank Kurt Cobain as a songwriter?

Personally, I think he is one of the best-he had a real talent with words, witness his superb lyrics.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #1 posted 11/08/12 9:11pm

Timmy84

Yeah I rank him in my top ten personally.

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Reply #2 posted 11/08/12 9:44pm

Gunsnhalen

His songwriting is imo what made Nirvana great(Besides Dave's awesome drumming)

Kurt was not a very good guitar player.. in fact he was messy. And his vocals where a lot to...

But his writing was amazing & made the vocals seem even more tortured & profound smile

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Reply #3 posted 11/08/12 10:26pm

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I don't think Kurt was a bad singer-his voice really fit Nirvana's songs and he was good at covering the works of others-the unplugged cd is proof of that

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #4 posted 11/08/12 10:49pm

Gunsnhalen

scriptgirl said:

I don't think Kurt was a bad singer-his voice really fit Nirvana's songs and he was good at covering the works of others-the unplugged cd is proof of that

Oh no they did! smile , i was more reffering to Rolling Stone & other magazine putting him in the top 100 singers of all time.

And top 100 guitarist to confused

That was to much lol

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Reply #5 posted 11/09/12 2:49pm

Militant

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One of my top 5 favorite songwriters of all time. Genius.

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Reply #6 posted 11/09/12 3:05pm

GoldDolphin

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Great songwriter! His writing abilities are far greater than his singing, but that's what made nirvana so great that it wasnt perfect. He's one of my fav sogwriters!
When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix
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Reply #7 posted 11/09/12 4:02pm

CynicKill

10/10

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Reply #8 posted 11/09/12 9:09pm

wildgoldenhone
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My opinion doesn't count but I liked him! headbang

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Reply #9 posted 11/09/12 9:12pm

rmartin70

Militant said:

One of my top 5 favorite songwriters of all time. Genius.


yeahthat
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Reply #10 posted 11/10/12 7:18am

aardvark15

I've never like Nirvana musically or vocally, but there's no denying Kurt was an awesome songwriter.

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Reply #11 posted 11/10/12 9:42am

NDRU

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All these years later when I think he did not have enough time to establish himself as one of the all time greats, I hear Rape Me on the radio and its a perfect song.

So I don't know if he has the complete body of work to compare to other greats, but what he has is about as good as it could possibly be.
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Reply #12 posted 11/10/12 9:54am

Rococo

wrote good pop songs(pop to me atleast is a good things)

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Reply #13 posted 11/10/12 10:23am

Cinny

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NDRU said:

All these years later when I think he did not have enough time to establish himself as one of the all time greats, I hear Rape Me on the radio and its a perfect song. So I don't know if he has the complete body of work to compare to other greats, but what he has is about as good as it could possibly be.

I was watching an interview with Courtney Love and she was asked what Kurt's involvement was in Hole's Live Through This, and Courtney said basically nothing. Kurt sang backup on "Asking For It", but it was watching him e.g. write "Rape Me" in twenty minutes, that pissed her off and challenged/inspired her as a songwriter for that album.

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Reply #14 posted 11/10/12 12:25pm

mask

He is positively a better songwriter than Neeyo or Drake could ever be.

I use them as examples of posers who have horrid songwriting skills yet sell millions of records.

There are many others just as guilty.

Kids these days are being duped and they don't even realize it.

Rock N Roll is dead,now let's all commence to shake our booty's.

It really does smell like teen spirit.

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Reply #15 posted 11/10/12 7:59pm

CynicKill

I took Kurt Cobain's death pretty hard.

I remember at the time of his death and the local news was trying to get a story out of it but it backfired. They cruised local "hot spots" and hangouts where X'ers frequented and asked them what they thought and they pretty much got shrugs and "I could never understand him anyways" type responses.

He didn't want to be a spokesman for his generation and it turned out he wasn't.

Then the worst thing happened; After the media-cool surrounding Generation X burned off and the generation moved from disaffected to complacent, Generation X became just like everybody else.

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Reply #16 posted 11/11/12 10:58am

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Cinny said:

NDRU said:

All these years later when I think he did not have enough time to establish himself as one of the all time greats, I hear Rape Me on the radio and its a perfect song. So I don't know if he has the complete body of work to compare to other greats, but what he has is about as good as it could possibly be.

I was watching an interview with Courtney Love and she was asked what Kurt's involvement was in Hole's Live Through This, and Courtney said basically nothing. Kurt sang backup on "Asking For It", but it was watching him e.g. write "Rape Me" in twenty minutes, that pissed her off and challenged/inspired her as a songwriter for that album.

I imagine that's true, and it's a really good album. His influence is all through it, too. So much so that people think he really did write some of those songs. And even if that rumor is not true, it shows how stylish and influential he was all the same.

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Reply #17 posted 11/11/12 12:03pm

rdhull

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"That boy good!"

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 11/11/12 4:58pm

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Superb.

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Reply #19 posted 11/11/12 10:34pm

Cinny

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NDRU said:

Cinny said:

I was watching an interview with Courtney Love and she was asked what Kurt's involvement was in Hole's Live Through This, and Courtney said basically nothing. Kurt sang backup on "Asking For It", but it was watching him e.g. write "Rape Me" in twenty minutes, that pissed her off and challenged/inspired her as a songwriter for that album.

I imagine that's true, and it's a really good album. His influence is all through it, too. So much so that people think he really did write some of those songs. And even if that rumor is not true, it shows how stylish and influential he was all the same.

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Reply #20 posted 11/12/12 12:24am

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Can you think of a better songwriter since?? Me neither. Love his music.

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Reply #21 posted 11/12/12 12:29am

LiLi1992

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aardvark15 said:

I've never like Nirvana musically or vocally, but there's no denying Kurt was an awesome songwriter.

yeahthat

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Reply #22 posted 11/12/12 11:57am

bobzilla77

He's one of the best of his era, I think. They're not overly crafty but they're memorable and leave a strong impression. There were other bands from the underground scene that I liked better at the time, because they were more extreme, but it's the classic rock simplicity in his best tunes that makes them a lot more fun than Big Black or the Jesus Lizard today. Those bands were fun to see live, they were extremely powerful, but the records don't hold up as well. The underground scene was still very wary of things getting too "pop" even though we all grew up on our moms' Beatles and Stones records.

And he was simply miles ahead of most of the bands that became famous in the grunge era. Some of the others were maybe craftier but that's not what I really want in loud-ass rock and roll writing.

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Reply #23 posted 11/12/12 12:40pm

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I thought he was brilliant.

Interesting list also...

Top 50 albums handwritten by Kurt Cobain...


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