MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

Well isnt this lovely we have Willow Smith bday celebration, Beyonce pic, Lady Gaga new cd, Bieber article on the front page

There's 40 threads + 5 sticky threads on the 1st page, so there's 40 other topics (not including this one) for you to look at.

That still doesnt change the fact that their not popular among most here

mjscarousal said:

Well isnt this lovely we have Willow Smith bday celebration, Beyonce pic, Lady Gaga new cd, Bieber article on the front page

You do realise there are Lady Gaga fans on this site? In fact many of them don't speak up because people like you complain about how much you hate their music

Someone here likes them cause they get so many damn responses.

The org bores me now, I've moved on to Lipstick Alley. That place has me in stiches!

mjscarousal said:

MickyDolenz said:

There's 40 threads 5 sticky threads on the 1st page, so there's 40 other topics (not including this one) for you to look at.

That still doesnt change the fact that their not popular among most here

If a topic doesn't interest me, I don't look at it. I don't see what's so hard about that. If something is not popular like you say, then it'll quickly go down the hole. Problem solved.

aardvark15 said:

mjscarousal said:

Well isnt this lovely we have Willow Smith bday celebration, Beyonce pic, Lady Gaga new cd, Bieber article on the front page

You do realise there are Lady Gaga fans on this site? In fact many of them don't speak up because people like you complain about how much you hate their music

Um there are hell of alot more threads on Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Bieber and other mainstream shit more so than on other artists and I dont hate her music I am just trying to understand why they make alot of posts on them when its clear no one is interested and from all the Gaga threads Ive seen it appears she doesnt have a massive amount of fans here because she gets criticized alot here to

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

That still doesnt change the fact that their not popular among most here

If a topic doesn't interest me, I don't look at it. I don't see what's so hard about that. If something is not popular like you say, then it'll quickly go down the hole. Problem solved.

The forum was never like this in the past to this degree and most of those threads never go down because their is alot of criticism of the artist in them so all I ask is since we already know this why do people make massive threads on them.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Someone here likes them cause they get so many damn responses.

Yea of being posting how much they dont like them

mjscarousal said:

Im noticing the Jackson threads are getting a little bashing..... its quite obvious unlike the other artists... that is of a bigger interest. Janet, Jackson 5, etc

the other ones... NOBODY LIKES so its baffling why their are constant threads on them

You have to realize some people do like Jermaine's music and don't really care

about his current personal life. I'm not interested in Latoya's music but unless

you have not been paying attention, there are some Latoya fans here on the org.

phunkdaddy said:

mjscarousal said:

Im noticing the Jackson threads are getting a little bashing..... its quite obvious unlike the other artists... that is of a bigger interest. Janet, Jackson 5, etc

the other ones... NOBODY LIKES so its baffling why their are constant threads on them

You have to realize some people do like Jermaine's music and don't really care

about his current personal life. I'm not interested in Latoya's music but unless

you have not been paying attention, there are some Latoya fans here on the org.

I wasnt talking about La Toya or Jermaine I was talking about the other non popular artists like Rihanna and Perry sorry I could have been clearer with that

mjscarousal said:

MickyDolenz said:

If a topic doesn't interest me, I don't look at it. I don't see what's so hard about that. If something is not popular like you say, then it'll quickly go down the hole. Problem solved.

The forum was never like this in the past to this degree and most of those threads never go down because their is alot of criticism of the artist in them so all I ask is since we already know this why do people make massive threads on them.

Well maybe you should ask why people who don't like a performer go into a thread about them to say negative things about the act, not why the thread is made? Like I said, it's not difficult to ignore a thread. Why don't these people who look and comment in these "unpopular" threads start topics of things they're interested in, or go into another thread? Maybe they just wanna argue, I don't see any other reason.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

The forum was never like this in the past to this degree and most of those threads never go down because their is alot of criticism of the artist in them so all I ask is since we already know this why do people make massive threads on them.

Well maybe you should ask why people who don't like a performer go into a thread about them to say negative things about the act, not why the thread is made? Like I said, it's not difficult to ignore a thread. Why don't these people who look and comment in these "unpopular" threads start topics of things they're interested in, or go into another thread? Maybe they just wanna argue, I don't see any other reason.

You're 100% right.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

The forum was never like this in the past to this degree and most of those threads never go down because their is alot of criticism of the artist in them so all I ask is since we already know this why do people make massive threads on them.

Well maybe you should ask why people who don't like a performer go into a thread about them to say negative things about the act, not why the thread is made? Like I said, it's not difficult to ignore a thread. Why don't these people who look and comment in these "unpopular" threads start topics of things they're interested in, or go into another thread? Maybe they just wanna argue, I don't see any other reason.

I agree to an extent..... I guess it can go both ways but I dont see the point in making alot of threads its obvious most here are not interested in. I admit to going in those threads sometimes but its mostly to criticize but at the same time its obvious those threads are not popular here..... so why post them? And its not like their posted once in a while, those artists get the most threads out of this forum but people complain that they dont like them....

mjscarousal said:

Well isnt this lovely we have Willow Smith bday celebration, Beyonce pic, Lady Gaga new cd, Bieber article on the front page

This forum has gone straight to shit hole

I've been saying that about this section of the org for the last year or two. I feel like I'm on a Barney fan site rather than a Prince fan site.

And yet they keep coming back for more to keep the site vibrant. Something must be coercing them to open such "dreadful" threads. Anyone care to define what that is, exactly?

Identity said:

And yet they keep coming back for more to keep the site vibrant. Something must be coercing them to open such "dreadful" threads. Anyone care to define what that is, exactly?

Being nosey.

mjscarousal said:

I agree to an extent..... I guess it can go both ways but I dont see the point in making alot of threads its obvious most here are not interested in. I admit to going in those threads sometimes but its mostly to criticize but at the same time its obvious those threads are not popular here..... so why post them? And its not like their posted once in a while, those artists get the most threads out of this forum but people complain that they dont like them....

It seems to me many are interested in these threads or else they wouldn't constantly get comments. How many times or ways can someone say "I don't think so and so has any talent/they can't sing/today's music stinks/old music was better/I can't listen to this person because I don't like their personality."? It seems both sides would be tired of this, but they're not. It's like folks saying award shows or the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame doesn't really mean anything but like to talk about it. Then why watch it or care about who's inducted?

I'd say the topics about music are the ones most people are not interested in. Threads started by Paligap or TheAudience usually don't last long on the first page, but gossip ones do. It's like that other poster saying he doesn't want to see gossip and a separate section should be made for it. But the way it works now, a section for music only would be a ghost town.

I agree with, Mike. If you don't like the subject matter, skip the thread. If an Orger is flooding the forum, report that individual.

It bears mentioning that those who've howled at the so-called dreck of threads on this forum and the lowbrow quality of said threads have yet to show what they'd post differently. Voicing complaints is one thing, impressing us with examples seems more problematic.

silverchild said:

That's just why I haven't been on this org much. It gets annoying. This has turned into TMZ more than anything.

Post-Halloween horror: yet another complaint thread about nothing.

Identity said:

I agree with, Mike. If you don't like the subject matter, skip the thread. If an Orger is flooding the forum, report that individual.

It bears mentioning that those who've howled at the so-called dreck of threads on this forum and the lowbrow quality of said threads have yet to show what they'd post differently. Voicing complaints is one thing, impressing us with examples seems more problematic.

Who are you referring to Idenity?

Because of the people that agree with my question contribute MUSIC topics here and I contribute MUSIC topics as well. I have never made a gossip thread here.

I have admiited that sometimes I do go in those threads expressing criticism (and no that does not help) but Im just trying to seek understanding for those who always post about artists and gossip shit knowing that most people here dont give a fuck here

Most of those replies in those threads dont get long or die down because people like them or are talking positively about them. Most of the replies consist of complaints and criticism which is why it takes longer to die down and it ends up being a bash fest.

Identity said:

Post-Halloween horror: yet another complaint thread about nothing.

Yea it would mean nothing to a poster that contributes to the problem.... thats whats wrong now, people cant express something that could possibly improve the forum without everyone viewing it as complaining.

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MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

I agree to an extent..... I guess it can go both ways but I dont see the point in making alot of threads its obvious most here are not interested in. I admit to going in those threads sometimes but its mostly to criticize but at the same time its obvious those threads are not popular here..... so why post them? And its not like their posted once in a while, those artists get the most threads out of this forum but people complain that they dont like them....

It seems to me many are interested in these threads or else they wouldn't constantly get comments. How many times or ways can someone say "I don't think so and so has any talent/they can't sing/today's music stinks/old music was better/I can't listen to this person because I don't like their personality."? It seems both sides would be tired of this, but they're not. It's like folks saying award shows or the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame doesn't really mean anything but like to talk about it. Then why watch it or care about who's inducted?

I'd say the topics about music are the ones most people are not interested in. Threads started by Paligap or TheAudience usually don't last long on the first page, but gossip ones do. It's like that other poster saying he doesn't want to see gossip and a separate section should be made for it. But the way it works now, a section for music only would be a ghost town.

I think the reason why those threads dont die down is because people do alot of criticizing and bashing in those threads not because their exactly interested in the topic.

I am not insisting people should not debate because naturally that is what is going to happen on a message board but I just dont understand why people make threads on artists and on gossip topics not related to music when its not a big interest of the majority here.

mjscarousal said:

I think the reason why those threads dont die down is because people do alot of criticizing and bashing in those threads not because their exactly interested in the topic.

I am not insisting people should not debate because naturally that is what is going to happen on a message board but I just dont understand why people make threads on artists and on gossip topics not related to music when its not a big interest of the majority here.

You keep contridicting yourself. You say no one is interested but they go in there to criticize and/or gossip. If someone truly is not interested, then they wouldn't comment at all, pro or con. Some folks like to troll and argue, so as long as they want to do that, they will keep commenting in those threads. They can just as easily comment in another thread or start a topic themselves. Look at the photo threads, it's mainly 2 or 3 people posting, because they're interested in that. The other folks don't contribute because they don't want to. They can do the same thing with the "unpopular" threads. I've seen threads that had nothing to do with gossip, but folks start talking about something that the particular person did.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

I think the reason why those threads dont die down is because people do alot of criticizing and bashing in those threads not because their exactly interested in the topic.

I am not insisting people should not debate because naturally that is what is going to happen on a message board but I just dont understand why people make threads on artists and on gossip topics not related to music when its not a big interest of the majority here.

You keep contridicting yourself. You say no one is interested but they go in there to criticize and/or gossip. If someone truly is not interested, then they wouldn't comment at all, pro or con.

Some folks like to troll and argue, so as long as they want to do that, they will keep commenting in those threads. They can just as easily comment in another thread or start a topic themselves. Look at the photo threads, it's mainly 2 or 3 people posting, because they're interested in that. The other folks don't contribute because they don't want to. They can do the same thing with the "unpopular" threads. I've seen threads that had nothing to do with gossip, but folks start talking about something that the particular person did.

There is no contradiction Your over generalizing the motive behind EVERY single person that replies in those threads by concluding that since their replying in that thread they must be interested in that artist or a fan.

Thats not necessarily true all the time.

If someone makes a thread that for example draws a comparision between a current artist and an artist like Prince... than you better believe whether someone is a fan of the artist being compared to Prince or not, people are going to give ttheir opinion, criticism or agreeance on that bold claim because its debatable and you dont have to be a fan to respond to it. You dont even have to be a hardcore fan of Prince to respond to a claim like that!

I know naturally threads like this are bound to come up but over the last couple of years these threads have taken over the org excessively and there are some people that do agree, its not its one person pointing out something.

aardvark15 said:

One word:

KCool

mjscarousal said:

If someone makes a thread that for example draws a comparision between a current artist and an artist like Prince... than you better believe whether someone is a fan of the artist being compared to Prince or not, people are going to give ttheir opinion, criticism or agreeance on that bold claim because its debatable and you dont have to be a fan to respond to it. You dont even have to be a hardcore fan of Prince to respond to a claim like that

Then they are interested in that or care about it. You don't see me posting in threads like "Freddie Mercury is the greatest" or those 'original vs. remake' song threads because I don't care about those things. It's simple as that.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

If someone makes a thread that for example draws a comparision between a current artist and an artist like Prince... than you better believe whether someone is a fan of the artist being compared to Prince or not, people are going to give ttheir opinion, criticism or agreeance on that bold claim because its debatable and you dont have to be a fan to respond to it. You dont even have to be a hardcore fan of Prince to respond to a claim like that

Then they are interested in that or care about it. You don't see me posting in threads like "Freddie Mercury is the greatest" or those 'original vs. remake' song threads because I don't care about those things. It's simple as that.

Giving your opinion doesnt necessarily mean you are greatly interested in the artist specifically and there are alot of reasons why someone might reply in those threads, usually, its to criticize...

scriptgirl said:

To be honest, there are some artists I am surprised there aren't a lot of threads on, like Jessie J, Adele, Lupe Fiasco, Frank Oceanetc

NOOOOO!!! The last Jessie J thread I read (wow that was a mouthful ) was a bash session for her. I started one too and nobody had much nice stuff to say about my girl. I think her voice on her acoustic performances is actually very good but that's just my ears. Same for the last thread I read on Adele asking how many people still didn't own '21'. Not many positive responses there either despite her being an artist who actually doesn't rely on her image and being an attention whore to sell her music unlike so many who get a new thread daily.

It's one thing to have a negative opinion about an artist but it's another thing to be a total hater and continue to bash that person everytime a thread on them is started. I get it; you don't like this person but why even continue to go into threads about a person you can't stand? That's like people who send hate mail to celebrities...why waste a stamp, time, and energy on someone you despise that much? Just say you don't like them and if someone asks you why then elaborate and keep it moving. If they want to have a debate about your explanation than have a respectful debate about it. I'm sorry but I love Katy Perry but I'd rather not see any threads on her because nobody here likes her....in fact most people here hate her guts from responses I've read on her threads. I can live without the Katy Perry hate sessions, so please no more Katy threads....Thanks in advance!!!