I dont know if anyone has posted this already?

Michael Jackson’s Burial Was Delayed Because Janet Wanted Her Burial-Plot Deposit Back

By Vanity Fair

3:10 PM, October 4 2012


Michael Jackson’s burial was delayed for nearly three months due to wrangling between Janet Jackson and her brother’s estate, a detail revealed in a November Vanity Fair–exclusive excerpt of Untouchable, Randall Sullivan’s Michael Jackson biography, which will be published next month.According to Sullivan, Janet put up the $40,000 deposit at Forest Lawn to secure a spot for Michael but refused to let the funeral take place until the money was repaid.
Ronald Williams, of Talon Executive Services—a private-security company that dispatched a team to Michael Jackson’s rented château in Holmby Hills on the night of his death—tells Sullivan that hours after Jackson died, La Toya and her boyfriend, Jeffre Phillips, arrived at the house demanding to be admitted. “We’re family and we should have access to the house,” they reportedly said.
Sullivan reports that mother Katherine Jackson also arrived that night and entered the house, where she telephoned Grace Rwaramba, the recently terminated longtime nanny to Michael’s children. According to Rwaramba, Katherine said, “Grace, the children are crying. They are asking about you. They can’t believe that their father died. Grace, you remember Michael used to hide cash at the house? I’m here. Where can it be?” Rwaramba described Michael’s standard practice of hiding his cash in black plastic garbage bags and under the carpets. Talon describes seeing La Toya and her boyfriend loading black plastic garbage bags into duffel bags and placing them in the garage. (La Toya would insist that nearly all of Michael’s money was gone by the time she arrived at the Holmby Hills house.)
The next morning, Janet Jackson arrived with a moving van and demanded to be admitted. A few hours later, the truck exited through the front gate with Jeffre Phillips at the wheel. Katherine Jackson and her daughters made it clear that they wouldn’t be leaving anytime soon. “They camped out for most of a week,” Williams tells Sullivan, leaving and returning “whenever they felt like it.”
Katherine Jackson’s representatives shared details of her recent “abduction” with Sullivan, who describes what happened from her perspective for the first time. One of Katherine Jackson’s representatives tells Sullivan that it was Janet Jackson who on July 14, 2012, arranged for Dr. Allen Metzger to go to the Calabasas mansion, where her mother had been living with Michael’s three children. Metzger was introduced as an associate of Mrs. Jackson’s longtime Beverly Hills physician and told that her doctor wanted her to have a physical before she went to Albuquerque for her sons’ Unity Tour. After a brief examination, Metzger told Katherine Jackson that her blood pressure was elevated and that it would be best for her not to make the trip to New Mexico by car as she had planned. Katherine left the next morning with her daughter Rebbie and her granddaughter Stacee Brown and Mrs. Jackson’s personal assistant. It wasn’t until they arrived at the airport that Katherine realized they weren’t headed to Albuquerque but rather to Tucson, where she was booked at the Miraval Resort & Spa. Janet Jackson was there when she arrived.
The representative tells Sullivan that Dr. Metzger had no association with Mrs. Jackson’s physician and that she had not sent him to see Mrs. Jackson. Dr. Metzger was, in fact, the same doctor who had been called as a defense witness at the trial of Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of providing the drugs that killed Michael Jackson. He had also been reprimanded by the state medical board for writing prescriptions for Janet Jackson under false or fictitious names.
Katherine’s grandson T. J. Jackson, and others who were looking after Michael’s children at his Calabasas home, soon deduced that the five Jackson siblings—who that same week had sent a letter to Michael’s executors asking them to resign and claiming that their mother had suffered a mini-stroke—now reportedly with Katherine in their custody were, in the view of Mrs. Jackson’s representatives, attempting to gain a conservatorship over her, possibly by demonstrating her incompetence to serve as guardian of Michael’s children. They hoped to gain control of their brother’s fortune, which would follow Prince, Paris, and Blanket wherever they went.
Sullivan explores the question of how John Branca, a lawyer who was fired by Michael Jackson in 2003—and is now earning tens of millions of dollars as an executor of the Michael Jackson estate—managed to retain possession of a will he should have handed over with all of Jackson’s papers to a new attorney, David LeGrand, who turned the documents over to another attorney, Brian Oxman, when he was dismissed. “I had access to every file and I had to go through them,” Oxman recalls. “And I did. There was no will. There was no trust. It just showed up after he died.” (Branca, through his attorney, declined to comment.)
John Branca, has said that the will he presented to the Jacksons in July 2009 was greeted by the family with applause, but Katherine Jackson remembers the meeting differently. “According to her, the atmosphere went from quiet to glum,” Sullivan reports. “She personally was offended that John Branca never once said how sorry he was for her loss. The man was cold, Mrs. Jackson thought, just as Michael had described him: ‘My son had told me and the kids that he never wanted Branca to be any part of his business ever again.’”

Gary, Indiana.

Some of you people just won't rest until Janet is vilified in every way imaginable. Next up, someone will say that she's been running over old ladies with her car for sport, or pummeling stray kittens with a plastic baseball bat.

GoldDolphin said:

I dont know if anyone has posted this already?

Michael Jackson’s Burial Was Delayed Because Janet Wanted Her Burial-Plot Deposit Back

By Vanity Fair

3:10 PM, October 4 2012

Posted in the MJ sticky

Howard Weitzman, attorney for the Estate Excutors, response to this story:

The "wrangling" between Janet and the managers of her brother’s estate meant Jackson's remains languished in refrigerated storage between his June 2009 death and his early September burial.

A lawyer for the estate said the claim was news to him.

"The estate was not involved in those events. I have no idea what took place," lawyer Howard Weitzman told the Daily News Thursday.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.co...z28NCMIrLU

Also:

New Michael Jackson Book Looks Like Clip Job: Read Original Stories Here

The new Michael Jackson book excerpted in Vanity Fair looks like a clip job. As well, author Randall Sullivan seems to have depended on the most questionable of the Jackson so called “insiders” as his sources. They include Brian Oxman, who was never Michael’s lawyer, was fired by Tom Mesereau during the 2005 criminal case, and is now disbarred finally after many sanctions by the California Bar Association; Howard Mann, a Toronto online gaming entrepreneur who recently lost a major case to the Jackson estate; and Tohme Tohme, Michael’s short-lived manager currently being sued by the estate.

No one I’ve talked to associated with the Jackson estate, or the real “inner circle” has spoken to Sullivan. His book is being published by Grove Press, which sold the rights to Vanity Fair. The magazine can’t know that Sullivan’s sources are highly suspect, or that much of the material they’ve got from him comes other sources including this column. Sullivan never covered Jackson during his life, wasn’t around during his trial or its aftermath, but now pitches himself as an expert.

Sullivan also seems to be, at least in the Vanity Fair excerpt, on the side of the Will-doubters. This is the group that thinks Michael Jackson’s Will was forged or invented. I liken them to the Obama birthers.

Sullivan cites this column toward the end of his excerpt in the new Vanity Fair, but really–most of the stuff in this story comes from other places. It’s a clip job. I suspect his book will be much the same. Look for the fingerprints of other disgruntled ex-Jacksonians.

Anyway, here are some links to stories I wrote where Sullivan may have found inspiration:

http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/0...ed-in-2002

http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/0...eres-a-way

http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/0...and-ranch\

http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/0...al-mistake

http://www.showbiz411.com/2009/0...c-aeg-tohm

http://www.showbiz411.com...ories-here

[Edited 10/4/12 15:46pm]

MJ sticky numero 2... Lock in 3...2...1...

Vanity Fair have done enough hack jobs on MJ, and then quoting Brian Oxman as some kind of credible source further down is proof enough that it's bullshit.

let's see how many pages this thread will be will this be another 'epic' Jacksons thread that goes on for many days? LOL

edit

[Edited 10/4/12 20:00pm]

janet's done dumb things, but even she wouldn't something this dumb, stevie wonder can see that

purplethunder3121 said:

MJ sticky numero 2... Lock in 3...2...1...

but this thread about Janet.

the pressed killed michael now they going after janet will all kinds of bullshit this woman worth millions herself and her man is a billionaire im pretty sure michaels debt doesnt make her want it lol look at how they doing chris brown now everytime somebody black do a little something we get killed by the media

janet and chris brown need 2 duet and redo michael jackson leave me alone

i don't condone any of chris brown's crap, but see what white media is doing to him too now, using his face to promote an app to block people was going too far....and he already came out with some don't judge me song

cbarnes3121 said:

the pressed killed michael now they going after janet will all kinds of bullshit this woman worth millions herself and her man is a billionaire im pretty sure michaels debt doesnt make her want it lol look at how they doing chris brown now everytime somebody black do a little something we get killed by the media

janet and chris brown need 2 duet and redo michael jackson leave me alone

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

alphastreet said:

janet's done dumb things, but even she wouldn't something this dumb, stevie wonder can see that

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:01am]

mjscarousal said:

alphastreet said:

janet's done dumb things, but even she wouldn't something this dumb, stevie wonder can see that

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:01am]

Yeah that's what I meant, I don't believe she delayed the funeral at all though we all knew at the time she paid for it and wanted a reimbursement, but there couldn't have been a hold up.

I see your point about it being selfish to demand a reimbursement, but I really think she is next in line to be a cash cow for the family, and she may have asked for it right away as opposed to later so she's not stuck asking for it for years, from the estate or the family. I guess she sets boundaries with people around money even if she can easily earn it back from touring.....though also cold since it is family. I know everyone grieves differently, but I still find it weird how she couldn't remember where she was when she got the news he was gone, said all the addiction stuff, and did not want to talk about him on the radio when dj's wanted to say sorry. I know she hates questions about him, and that the media is fake and that can trigger her, but it just comes off as bitchy. She really could have humbled herself a little.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:14am]

alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said:

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:01am]

Yeah that's what I meant, I don't believe she delayed the funeral at all though we all knew at the time she paid for it and wanted a reimbursement, but there couldn't have been a hold up.

I see your point about it being selfish to demand a reimbursement, but I really think she is next in line to be a cash cow for the family, and she may have asked for it right away as opposed to later so she's not stuck asking for it for years, from the estate or the family. I guess she sets boundaries with people around money even if she can easily earn it back from touring.....though also cold since it is family. I know everyone grieves differently, but I still find it weird how she couldn't remember where she was when she got the news he was gone, said all the addiction stuff, and did not want to talk about him on the radio when dj's wanted to say sorry. I know she hates questions about him, and that the media is fake and that can trigger her, but it just comes off as bitchy. She really could have humbled herself a little.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:14am]

I see your point to but I would argue that your brother just passed It is not like she was putting a desposit down for a house or bailing him out... ya know? For those things I could see MJ or the Estate paying her back but for desposit down for a family member that just passed? And your on BET saying bullshit that he was family and you were close...its just bullshit and t.v. talk to me because if Michael meant all of that she would not have demanded a reimbursement that is equivalent to 4 dollars to someone worth 100 million.

So guess who is going to pay for Katherine and Joe when they passed?

THE MJ ESTATE.... not Janet silly and you better believe if she has to spend a dime she is going to want reimbursement, Janet doesnt play when it comes to HER money

It IS selfish and to me their are no excuses in the world... It was petty as shit... It was just 40 thousand dollars and Janet is worth at least 80-100 million herself.

Why would she even bother with asking for money to pay for her brothers funeral arrangements? Michael paid for David Ruffins and didnt even ask for NOTHING in return.

And your right... she went to the media talking trash about MJ BUT guess what she did when it was time to promote her tour and her True You book?

She made sure that all the MJ questions were not allowed

I dunno... people gonna bash me but I dont give a fuck because Janet is not perfect either. She just comes off as selfish to me and honestly she is not going to becash cow because the family is still going after Michael moneys and Janet doesnt give a fuck because its not hers.

The only reason she is NOW trying to challeng the Estate is because she doesnt want her greedy family going after her money because she knows once Katherine passes the money train is.... over.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:45am]

yeah I still love her music and how much I looked up to her before, but I really don't like how she's acting and think she's fake and very self-centered, plus I didn't realize that about mj's estate paying for katherine and joseph too right away

and she gets away with so much of it, if celebrities with other famous family members were acting this way, people would be quick to defend the deceased one, but cause it's mj, her behaviour is excusable

mjscarousal said:

alphastreet said:

janet's done dumb things, but even she wouldn't something this dumb, stevie wonder can see that

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

alphastreet said:

yeah I still love her music and how much I looked up to her before, but I really don't like how she's acting and think she's fake and very self-centered, plus I didn't realize that about mj's estate paying for katherine and joseph too right away

and she gets away with so much of it, if celebrities with other famous family members were acting this way, people would be quick to defend the deceased one, but cause it's mj, her behaviour is excusable

mjscarousal said:

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

VERY

and to be honest I use to NEVER think that I remember getting into it quite a few times over Janet with Free2Be here about that but I definitly agree some of the things she has said and as turn around and done does scream fake I see that now. I also use to think she was so sweet but I see thats a little act she obviously puts up because somebody that sincerely cares like she was insisting she did about her brother would not ask for 40, 000 dollars and their worth 100 million among other things c'mon thats bullshit

Yea Janet will always be one of my favorites (musically/dancing wise) and forever apart of my childhood but that shit aint cool :/ and I honestly havent really looked at her the same since MJs passing and probably never will unfornately. I just view her as a great entertainer/artist thats pretty much it. I exactly could have saw her live around the time MJ passed, she came in my area and I wasnt even interested in going and.... didnt. And she was one of my top 5 to see live

And you better believe if this conversation was about some random person doing the same thing... people would be insisting how wrong and un ethical it is but since its the crazy freak Wack Jacko Michael Jackson that was buried and not blow joe this is what it is ... but then again these are people that would cuss out and blame a 14 year old girl for the behavior of grown adults pass 50 or close to it

So nothing surprises me

[Edited 10/5/12 7:46am]

Totally agree, I've always loved her music and I used to be a big fan but after what happened with MJs death and what happened this summer, I just can't look at her the same (I know not everything that has been written about her is true, but she's just been acting so strange). Obviously every person copes with their sorrow differently, but she just comes off as cold. I know that Janet and Michael werent that close before he died, but it doesn't matter because they were siblings. Latoya has handled the situation much better than Janet in the media (I'm not saying she's perfect either - nobody islol)

alphastreet said:

yeah I still love her music and how much I looked up to her before, but I really don't like how she's acting and think she's fake and very self-centered, plus I didn't realize that about mj's estate paying for katherine and joseph too right away

and she gets away with so much of it, if celebrities with other famous family members were acting this way, people would be quick to defend the deceased one, but cause it's mj, her behaviour is excusable

mjscarousal said:

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

Statement From the Estate Of Michael Jackson - Re: Vanity Fair Article

(edited for content)

[Edited 10/5/12 10:59am]

[Edited 10/5/12 10:59am]

mjscarousal said:

cbarnes3121 said:

the pressed killed michael now they going after janet will all kinds of bullshit this woman worth millions herself and her man is a billionaire im pretty sure michaels debt doesnt make her want it lol look at how they doing chris brown now everytime somebody black do a little something we get killed by the media

janet and chris brown need 2 duet and redo michael jackson leave me alone

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

ohh please my asshole withoit tissue cuz everysince that super bowl shit people have been picking and probing with lies at janet .the whole family for that matter let everybody tell it everybody broke in the family and living off michael when he was in so much debt that he couldnt see straight. amazing now he is dead and they still living the same life style they were living before michael died. the fact is janet is and always have been a very private person so shouldnt be recieving no negative press cuz its all bases off lies

cbarnes3121 said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

ohh please my asshole withoit tissue cuz everysince that super bowl shit people have been picking and probing with lies at janet .the whole family for that matter let everybody tell it everybody broke in the family and living off michael when he was in so much debt that he couldnt see straight. amazing now he is dead and they still living the same life style they were living before michael died. the fact is janet is and always have been a very private person so shouldnt be recieving no negative press cuz its all bases off lies

Don't try and talk common sense to that thing. He/she/it is batshit and will pop a vein if anyone dares mention MJ and Janet in the same context within the same sentence. It's a sad way to be, but I just laugh at him/her/it...

cbarnes3121 said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

ohh please my asshole withoit tissue cuz everysince that super bowl shit people have been picking and probing with lies at janet .the whole family for that matter let everybody tell it everybody broke in the family and living off michael when he was in so much debt that he couldnt see straight. amazing now he is dead and they still living the same life style they were living before michael died. the fact is janet is and always have been a very private person so shouldnt be recieving no negative press cuz its all bases off lies

Oh shut up already ... your obsessive over the top rants are OLD and tired. Nobody is bashing Janet but you are delusional if you honestly believe she receive the same level of negative bashing as MJ.

Did anybody say Janet wasnt private? No. I exactly think the article is false although there is SOME truth in it that is exactly on record and if you take the time to exactly look more into it instead of biasedly ranting like a lunatic you might learn something.

Janet has NEVER receive the same ongoing level of negativity as Michael even during the Superbowl.

SEANMAN said:

cbarnes3121 said:

ohh please my asshole withoit tissue cuz everysince that super bowl shit people have been picking and probing with lies at janet .the whole family for that matter let everybody tell it everybody broke in the family and living off michael when he was in so much debt that he couldnt see straight. amazing now he is dead and they still living the same life style they were living before michael died. the fact is janet is and always have been a very private person so shouldnt be recieving no negative press cuz its all bases off lies

Don't try and talk common sense to that thing. He/she/it is batshit and will pop a vein if anyone dares mention MJ and Janet in the same context within the same sentence. It's a sad way to be, but I just laugh at him/her/it...

For the millionth time I am not a he I am a SHE... last time correcting you because I know you are a little slow and please dont sit here and try to school ANYBODY on being respectful toward anybody when you straight up cuss people out and you think you are so high and mighty that you cant even apologize when your wrong... grow up... but I guess that is asking for so much coming from a crazy lunatic like yourself anytime somebody remotely says anything negative about Janet.

mjscarousal said:

cbarnes3121 said:

the pressed killed michael now they going after janet will all kinds of bullshit this woman worth millions herself and her man is a billionaire im pretty sure michaels debt doesnt make her want it lol look at how they doing chris brown now everytime somebody black do a little something we get killed by the media

janet and chris brown need 2 duet and redo michael jackson leave me alone

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

Thats because theres a huge difference between paying off someone who accuses you of child molestation and showing your boob

mjscarousal said:

alphastreet said:

janet's done dumb things, but even she wouldn't something this dumb, stevie wonder can see that

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:01am]

And how could you possibly know this?

You DON'T. Stop talking nonsense.

It was - most likely - not in Janet's power to delay her brothers burial.

And why shouldnt she get her money back? Those estate execs are unlawfully making millions of Michael's death.

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh pleaseeee... Janet has not received NO WHERE near the negative scrunity Michael received... this really is just shit you laugh at foreal.

Thats because theres a huge difference between paying off someone who accuses you of child molestation and showing your boob

That really wasnt worth comparing honestly because even before that Michael receive heavy negative coverage on him... Janet didnt never receive that untl 2004.

Regardless of the case... I dont think this article is remotely anywhere near to the extent the poster made it seem.

alphastreet said:

mjscarousal said:

Well it is on record that Janet did put down a deposit. I HIGHLY doubt she would refuse to bury her brother because she needed a reimbursement...however...

I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.

I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me. I dont see why a family member would demand for a reimbursement for a FAMILY member their helping out and a immediate family member at that who someone claims to have been close with.

If my mother or even brother passes away and they needed a deposit I would pay it and would feel to distraught to even be thinking about a reimbursement for it and I am not no where near stupid rich as Janet to be demanded money back. Not trying to bash Janet but it comes off very petty/selfish to me especially when she is a millionare herself and the desposit was just a couple thousands.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:01am]

Yeah that's what I meant, I don't believe she delayed the funeral at all though we all knew at the time she paid for it and wanted a reimbursement, but there couldn't have been a hold up.

I see your point about it being selfish to demand a reimbursement, but I really think she is next in line to be a cash cow for the family, and she may have asked for it right away as opposed to later so she's not stuck asking for it for years, from the estate or the family. I guess she sets boundaries with people around money even if she can easily earn it back from touring.....though also cold since it is family. I know everyone grieves differently, but I still find it weird how she couldn't remember where she was when she got the news he was gone, said all the addiction stuff, and did not want to talk about him on the radio when dj's wanted to say sorry. I know she hates questions about him, and that the media is fake and that can trigger her, but it just comes off as bitchy. She really could have humbled herself a little.

[Edited 10/5/12 6:14am]

Maybe she doesn't give a **** what you or the media thinks.

She's been in the business to long to give fucks anymore.

You - as an MJ fan - should be less judgemental.

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

Thats because theres a huge difference between paying off someone who accuses you of child molestation and showing your boob

That really wasnt worth comparing honestly because even before that Michael receive heavy negative coverage on him... Janet didnt never receive that untl 2004.

Regardless of the case... I dont think this article is remotely anywhere near to the extent the poster made it seem.

Oh please. I don't think anything else matched the publicity his trial and the paying off the molestation charges.

Michael played with the media when he wanted. He inspired the fascination the media had with him...

He wanted it when he needed it, hated it when he was hiding his skeletons...

Azz said:

alphastreet said:

Yeah that's what I meant, I don't believe she delayed the funeral at all though we all knew at the time she paid for it and wanted a reimbursement, but there couldn't have been a hold up.

I see your point about it being selfish to demand a reimbursement, but I really think she is next in line to be a cash cow for the family, and she may have asked for it right away as opposed to later so she's not stuck asking for it for years, from the estate or the family. I guess she sets boundaries with people around money even if she can easily earn it back from touring.....though also cold since it is family. I know everyone grieves differently, but I still find it weird how she couldn't remember where she was when she got the news he was gone, said all the addiction stuff, and did not want to talk about him on the radio when dj's wanted to say sorry. I know she hates questions about him, and that the media is fake and that can trigger her, but it just comes off as bitchy. She really could have humbled herself a little.

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Maybe she doesn't give a **** what you or the media thinks.

She's been in the business to long to give fucks anymore.

You - as an MJ fan - should be less judgemental.

Whether she gives a fuck or not.. I am still going to speak my mind on this message board

The number of years she has been in the business is rather irrelvant in this situation.

How exactly am I being judgemental?

I already insisted the article was false.... however their is some truth to it and I am sorry but I am not going to sit here and act like Janet is perfect or none of her motives cant be talked about either because she has done alot of questionable things. I personally think its beyond petty and selfish that she would ask for a reimbursement for her BROTHERS FUNERAL and the amount was a spec of what she is worth......... You dont think their is anything wrong with that? If you had to put a deposit down on your mother would you ask for money back? Its not like this was a COMPLETE STRANGER and its not like the amount was MILLIONS of dollars it was just a couple thousands....

YES it was petty and selfish of her to ask for a reimbursement period... thats just my opinion on it.