Maybe she doesn't give a **** what you or the media thinks.
She's been in the business to long to give fucks anymore.
You - as an MJ fan - should be less judgemental.
Whether she gives a fuck or not.. I am still going to speak my mind on this message board
The number of years she has been in the business is rather irrelvant in this situation.
How exactly am I being judgemental?
I already insisted the article was false.... however their is some truth to it and I am sorry but I am not going to sit here and act like Janet is perfect or none of her motives cant be talked about either because she has done alot of questionable things. I personally think its beyond petty and selfish that she would ask for a reimbursement for her BROTHERS FUNERAL and the amount was a spec of what she is worth......... You dont think their is anything wrong with that? If you had to put a deposit down on your mother would you ask for money back? Its not like this was a COMPLETE STRANGER and its not like the amount was MILLIONS of dollars it was just a couple thousands....
YES it was petty and selfish of her to ask for a reimbursement period... thats just my opinion on it.
I didn't quote you.
You realise people GENERALLY pay for their own funerals?
It's not Janets fault MJ was in debt, she helped him out when he was alive and facing the foreclosure of never never land.
Besides the estate was raking in millions and millions, they should paid for it.
And why does JANET have to pay for it? She has successful siblings. Just cause she was the only one was smart enough to keep track of her money, she is the BAD one?
That really wasnt worth comparing honestly because even before that Michael receive heavy negative coverage on him... Janet didnt never receive that untl 2004.
Regardless of the case... I dont think this article is remotely anywhere near to the extent the poster made it seem.
Oh please. I don't think anything else matched the publicity his trial and the paying off the molestation charges.
Michael played with the media when he wanted. He inspired the fascination the media had with him...
He wanted it when he needed it, hated it when he was hiding his skeletons...
I dont either however he was receiving about the same negative coverage during the BAD album, late 80s and onward.... thats the ONLY point that I am trying to get you to see... whether or not the case had a profound impact is rather irrelevant and kinda something that does not need to be said. I am simply trying to get you to understand that Michael had been receiving negative press for many many many years over the last 20 something years. Janets bad press only started this decade
and why are you making this about Michael? This really isnt nothing to debate. Michael has been one of the most ridiculed celebrities ever over the last 20 something years through all media outlets and NONE of that compares to anything Janet experienced. I am not excusing what she experienced but to COMPARE that to what Michael receive is ... not even close.
Oh please. I don't think anything else matched the publicity his trial and the paying off the molestation charges.
Michael played with the media when he wanted. He inspired the fascination the media had with him...
He wanted it when he needed it, hated it when he was hiding his skeletons...
I dont either however he was receiving about the same negative coverage during the BAD album, late 80s and onward.... thats the ONLY point that I am trying to get you to see... whether or not the case had a profound impact is rather irrelevant and kinda something that does not need to be said. I am simply trying to get you to understand that Michael had been receiving negative press for many many many years over the last 20 something years. Janets bad press only started this decade
and why are you making this about Michael? This really isnt nothing to debate. Michael has been one of the most ridiculed celebrities ever over the last 20 something years through all media outlets and NONE of that compares to anything Janet experienced. I am not excusing what she experienced but to COMPARE that to what Michael receive is ... not even close.
I'm not, it was already being discussed.
When you pay $25 million off to someone who accuses of something so uttlery atrocious, you're kind of asking for it...
Janet's negative press was more-uncalled for, if anything.
Whether she gives a fuck or not.. I am still going to speak my mind on this message board
The number of years she has been in the business is rather irrelvant in this situation.
How exactly am I being judgemental?
I already insisted the article was false.... however their is some truth to it and I am sorry but I am not going to sit here and act like Janet is perfect or none of her motives cant be talked about either because she has done alot of questionable things. I personally think its beyond petty and selfish that she would ask for a reimbursement for her BROTHERS FUNERAL and the amount was a spec of what she is worth......... You dont think their is anything wrong with that? If you had to put a deposit down on your mother would you ask for money back? Its not like this was a COMPLETE STRANGER and its not like the amount was MILLIONS of dollars it was just a couple thousands....
YES it was petty and selfish of her to ask for a reimbursement period... thats just my opinion on it.
I didn't quote you.
You realise people GENERALLY pay for their own funerals?
It's not Janets fault MJ was in debt, she helped him out when he was alive and facing the foreclosure of never never land.
Besides the estate was raking in millions and millions, they should paid for it.
And why does JANET have to pay for it? She has successful siblings. Just cause she was the only one was smart enough to keep track of her money, she is the BAD one?
That is not necessarily true 100 percent of the time. Most families where relatives who cant afford to pay for their funerals they are going to pay for it if they have to and not ASK for reimbursement. ONCE AGAIN... it was not MILLIONS of dollars and it was beyond petty to ask for a couple of thousands when she is worth millions and please dont sit up here and like you are not intelligent because you know damn well if Michael had of did what Janet did you would have been calling him everything but a child of God.
Michaels money issues has nothing to do with a sibling that is asked to help put because you can take this to the bank if that had been Janet Michael would not have asked for NOTHING back... Michael even paid for David Ruffins funeral.... it was selfish of her period and Michaels money problems is irrelevant to this situation. Its not like he was a leech like his family after money... He had alot of assets as well.
You realise people GENERALLY pay for their own funerals?
It's not Janets fault MJ was in debt, she helped him out when he was alive and facing the foreclosure of never never land.
Besides the estate was raking in millions and millions, they should paid for it.
And why does JANET have to pay for it? She has successful siblings. Just cause she was the only one was smart enough to keep track of her money, she is the BAD one?
That is not necessarily true 100 percent of the time. Most families where relatives who cant afford to pay for their funerals they are going to pay for it if they have to and not ASK for reimbursement. ONCE AGAIN... it was not MILLIONS of dollars and it was beyond petty to ask for a couple of thousands when she is worth millions and please dont sit up here and like you are not intelligent because you know damn well if Michael had of did what Janet did you would have been calling him everything but a child of God.
Michaels money issues has nothing to do with a sibling that is asked to help put because you can take this to the bank if that had been Janet Michael would not have asked for NOTHING back... Michael even paid for David Ruffins funeral.... it was selfish of her period and Michaels money problems is irrelevant to this situation. Its not like he was a leech like his family after money... He had alot of assets as well.
are you comprehending anything I am saying?
Maybe if either one of your posts hada point?
... If you are going to call Janet selfish, I expect you to call everyone of MJ' family members selfish, and more-so than Janet.
Because atleast she put up the money, something she DIDNT have to do.
And if she asked for a reimbursement, it was HER RIGHT, and there is nothing selfish about it.
I dont either however he was receiving about the same negative coverage during the BAD album, late 80s and onward.... thats the ONLY point that I am trying to get you to see... whether or not the case had a profound impact is rather irrelevant and kinda something that does not need to be said. I am simply trying to get you to understand that Michael had been receiving negative press for many many many years over the last 20 something years. Janets bad press only started this decade
and why are you making this about Michael? This really isnt nothing to debate. Michael has been one of the most ridiculed celebrities ever over the last 20 something years through all media outlets and NONE of that compares to anything Janet experienced. I am not excusing what she experienced but to COMPARE that to what Michael receive is ... not even close.
I'm not, it was already being discussed.
When you pay $25 million off to someone who accuses of something so uttlery atrocious, you're kind of asking for it...
Janet's negative press was more-uncalled for, if anything.
Your making the discussion specifically about certain situations that Michael experienced when Michael had received ridiculed BEFORE that....
DO YOU COMPREHEND BEFORE 1993 MICHAEL WAS HEAVILY RIDICULED BY THE MEDIA..
COMPREHEND?
If you ask me, Janet caused some of her own media as well. She planned a Superbowl incident that backfired and her odd behavior this summer was really bizaare.
You make it seem like Janet is perfect and has NEVER done anything wrong... She has done alot of questionable things herself that I completely disagree with.
That is not necessarily true 100 percent of the time. Most families where relatives who cant afford to pay for their funerals they are going to pay for it if they have to and not ASK for reimbursement. ONCE AGAIN... it was not MILLIONS of dollars and it was beyond petty to ask for a couple of thousands when she is worth millions and please dont sit up here and like you are not intelligent because you know damn well if Michael had of did what Janet did you would have been calling him everything but a child of God.
Michaels money issues has nothing to do with a sibling that is asked to help put because you can take this to the bank if that had been Janet Michael would not have asked for NOTHING back... Michael even paid for David Ruffins funeral.... it was selfish of her period and Michaels money problems is irrelevant to this situation. Its not like he was a leech like his family after money... He had alot of assets as well.
are you comprehending anything I am saying?
Maybe if either one of your posts hada point?
... If you are going to call Janet selfish, I expect you to call everyone of MJ' family members selfish, and more-so than Janet.
As much as I talk about the Jackson family like a dog and you say this... well you know that is bullshit right?
To be honest, I am just as surprised as most people with Janets behavior... I exactly thought she was better than her family but I come to realize she is just like them and she only cares about herself and her own money.
None of your posts have a point either and you are beyond biased with how you selectively choose to focus on certain things and avoid alot of points I make... but O well I give up, I tried There is no talking to you with anything Janet related because you are a biased stan that doesnt want to have a mature open minded coversation (but I kinda knew this already anyway).... So you can stay here and bash MJ as well as his fans just because people have their opinions on Janet... I'll leave you to it
... If you are going to call Janet selfish, I expect you to call everyone of MJ' family members selfish, and more-so than Janet.
As much as I talk about the Jackson family like a dog and you say this... well you know that is bullshit right?
To be honest, I am just as surprised as most people with Janets behavior... I exactly thought she was better than her family but I come to realize she is just like them and she only cares about herself and her own money.
None of your posts have a point either and you are beyond biased with how you selectively choose to focus on certain things and avoid alot of points I make... but O well I give up, I tried There is no talking to you with anything Janet related because you are a biased stan that doesnt want to have a mature open minded coversation (but I kinda knew this already anyway).... So you can stay here and bash MJ as well as his fans just because people have their opinions on Janet... I'll leave you to it
Peace
You dont understand.
Janet is, in this sitatuation, the focus of your hatred - for doing something kind, paying for her brothers slot, without whom he might never have gotten.
That is not necessarily true 100 percent of the time. Most families where relatives who cant afford to pay for their funerals they are going to pay for it if they have to and not ASK for reimbursement. ONCE AGAIN... it was not MILLIONS of dollars and it was beyond petty to ask for a couple of thousands when she is worth millions and please dont sit up here and like you are not intelligent because you know damn well if Michael had of did what Janet did you would have been calling him everything but a child of God.
Michaels money issues has nothing to do with a sibling that is asked to help put because you can take this to the bank if that had been Janet Michael would not have asked for NOTHING back... Michael even paid for David Ruffins funeral.... it was selfish of her period and Michaels money problems is irrelevant to this situation. Its not like he was a leech like his family after money... He had alot of assets as well.
are you comprehending anything I am saying?
Maybe if either one of your posts hada point?
... If you are going to call Janet selfish, I expect you to call everyone of MJ' family members selfish, and more-so than Janet.
Because atleast she put up the money, something she DIDNT have to do.
And if she asked for a reimbursement, it was HER RIGHT, and there is nothing selfish about it.
She got the slot they needed, END OF.
You're uppity judgement means nothing.
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Your right Janet can do whatever she wants... but that doesnt mean people are not within their right to give their opinion. If my brother passed today, I wouldnt ask for a reimbursement... What kind of shit is that? I would not even be THINKING about how his Estate was gonna be paying me back?
You talk as if this was somebody on the street and to be honest it comes off very selfish and self centered.... when this is a FAMILY IMMEDIATE so called close relative her brother that she claimed she had.
Why would she ask for a reimbursement for funeral deposit?
Dont you see how petty that is? I mean it was just 40 thousand dollars
Do you realize people have higher saleries than that? thats nothing especially if she is worth MILLIONS!!!!
If your going to be helpful... be it. Dont bullshit it.
... If you are going to call Janet selfish, I expect you to call everyone of MJ' family members selfish, and more-so than Janet.
Because atleast she put up the money, something she DIDNT have to do.
And if she asked for a reimbursement, it was HER RIGHT, and there is nothing selfish about it.
She got the slot they needed, END OF.
You're uppity judgement means nothing.
[Edited 10/5/12 13:59pm]
Your right Janet can do whatever she wants... but that doesnt mean people are not within their right to give their opinion. If my brother passed today, I wouldnt ask for a reimbursement... What kind of shit is that? I would not even be THINKING about how his Estate was gonna be paying me back?
You talk as if this was somebody on the street and to be honest it comes off very selfish and self centered.... when this is a FAMILY IMMEDIATE so called close relative her brother that she claimed she had.
Why would she ask for a reimbursement for funeral deposit?
Dont you see how petty that is? I mean it was just 40 thousand dollars
Do you realize people have higher saleries than that? thats nothing especially if she is worth MILLIONS!!!!
If your going to be helpful... be it. Dont bullshit it.
Which is funny, because only months ago, you were saying janet was broke and needed her brothers money.
SO WHICH IS IT?
Selfish? Or broke like the rest of her family, including her beloved brother?
That really wasnt worth comparing honestly because even before that Michael receive heavy negative coverage on him... Janet didnt never receive that untl 2004.
Regardless of the case... I dont think this article is remotely anywhere near to the extent the poster made it seem.
Oh please. I don't think anything else matched the publicity his trial and the paying off the molestation charges.
Michael played with the media when he wanted. He inspired the fascination the media had with him...
He wanted it when he needed it, hated it when he was hiding his skeletons...
I've seen some crazy ass characters on this forum over the years, but this mjscarousal character has to take the cake for the most whacked out of them all. She is still going on about something that happened in another thread between me and SOMEONE ELSE weeks ago. It's seriously getting to the point of me feeling sorry for her...a little...
Don't waste your time, Azz, talking to that shithead. It's obvious down to the way that she phrases her sentences that she ain't playin' with a full deck.
Look how a good deed - paying for a slot for your brother - turns into unanomous scorn.
What would you uppity MJ fans have said, had MJ not got a slot at Forest Lawn
Be thankful and grateful.
Janet could have paid for the coroner, the funeral AND the burial plot, and mjsNUTZOsal would still find a way to hate on her. Hell, she even had the entire family dressed in Versace for his public memorial.
Look how a good deed - paying for a slot for your brother - turns into unanomous scorn.
What would you uppity MJ fans have said, had MJ not got a slot at Forest Lawn
Be thankful and grateful.
Janet could have paid for the coroner, the funeral AND the burial plot, and mjsNUTZOsal would still find a way to hate on her. Hell, she even had the entire family dressed in Versace for his public memorial.
Then again, Katherine might have been able to pay for it had she been able to get money from underneath the carpets. Wait - the kids are crying
Janet could have paid for the coroner, the funeral AND the burial plot, and mjsNUTZOsal would still find a way to hate on her. Hell, she even had the entire family dressed in Versace for his public memorial.
Then again, Katherine might have been able to pay for it had she been able to get money from underneath the carpets. Wait - the kids are crying
He really was too gorgeous to have someone as ugly on the inside as you are be a fan of his. I don't think he would have liked you. In fact, I think you should take his initials and unreleased song title out of your forum nickname.
Janet's lawyer just sent Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Graydon Carter a letter, telling him to retract all of their false statements about Janet. My girl don't play.
Janet's lawyer just sent Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Graydon Carter a letter, telling him to retract all of their false statements about Janet. My girl don't play.
He really was too gorgeous to have someone as ugly on the inside as you are be a fan of his. I don't think he would have liked you. In fact, I think you should take his initials and unreleased song title out of your forum nickname.
That is just as stupid as me sitting here telling you that I will never listen to the janet. album again cause it reminds me of how you act here....see how dumb that sounds?
So hypocritical of MJ fans in particular to believe these lies...
Azz, I wish you would read threads before posting, or you would know that we think most of this article is untrue. I have given my two cents on janet, but even I don't think she would delay his funeral for reimbursement purposes. And when that Paris mess happened in summer, I didn't believe the hitting story either and knew it was a lie before Paris confirmed it too. Vanity Fair has a history of trashing the Jackson family anyways. Have a little faith
So hypocritical of MJ fans in particular to believe these lies...
Azz, I wish you would read threads before posting, or you would know that we think most of this article is untrue. I have given my two cents on janet, but even I don't think she would delay his funeral for reimbursement purposes. And when that Paris mess happened in summer, I didn't believe the hitting story either and knew it was a lie before Paris confirmed it too. Vanity Fair has a history of trashing the Jackson family anyways. Have a little faith
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I do believe she demanded a reimbursement after the whole thing was all set and done because the Estate did reimburse her.
I dont think she was just doing it as a favor to her brother... either way it seems odd to me
but for desposit down for a family member that just passed? And your on BET saying bullshit that he was family and you were close...its just bullshit and t.v. talk to me because if Michael meant all of that she would not have demanded a reimbursement that is equivalent to 4 dollars to someone worth 100 million.
It IS selfish and to me their are no excuses in the world... It was petty as shit.
think she's fake and very self-centered
just view her as a great entertainer/artist thats pretty much it. I exactly could have saw her live around the time MJ passed, she came in my area and I wasnt even interested in going and.... didnt.
I exactly think the article is false although there is SOME truth in it t
You and Mjscarousal, in particular, were using this bullshit article to diss Janet both as a person and as an artist.
yes, take one sentence of mine, ignore the rest in this thread and apply it to my entire view, very openminded of you azz....I'm done with your azz cause dealing with you is a lost cause.
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and its not like the amount was MILLIONS of dollars it was just a couple thousands....
are you comprehending anything I am saying? 
