MOST entertainers use playback every now and then, whether pre-recorded or straight from the track.

BUT these group of entertainers are KNOWN for their use of playback.

MJ

Madonna

Mariah Carey

Janet

Chris Brown

Britney Spears

Rank who you think has done it more in their career(based on the list of people and their overall career) and who do you think does it but gets a pass(not listed). 1-being the most and 6- being the least.

1- B. Spears, have she EVER sung live

2-Chris Brown, his career is very fresh and he has started to heavily lip. I can only imagine what the future holds.

3-Janet The Queen of prerecording vocals. Shes not the queen because I think she does it often but because she does it sooo well that it almost sounds like a live vocal. I dont think her problem is that she cant sing. Its just that her voice is thin so she needs the support.

4 Madonna She is someone who should use prerecorded vocals more. Her tone is sooo unpleasant that its not even funny. On my list, she onle edged Janet out by .000000000000001 of a margin.

5-Mariah Carey/ MJ(tie) Both started off very good live singer but intheir later years resorted more to a track. also unlike the others on the list, they are above average, actually great singers.

Bey is someone who prerecords more than whart she is given credit for. I would dub her the princess of prerecorded vocals(see Janet above for explanation).

Rhianna is someone who should prerecord her vocals. RThey sound so tired, off key and lifeless in her shows... UGH!!!!

What are your picks???

purple05 said:

MOST entertainers use playback every now and then, whether pre-recorded or straight from the track.

BUT these group of entertainers are KNOWN for their use of playback.

MJ

Madonna

Mariah Carey

Janet

Chris Brown

Britney Spears

Rank who you think has done it more in their career(based on the list of people and their overall career) and who do you think does it but gets a pass(not listed). 1-being the most and 6- being the least.

1- B. Spears, have she EVER sung live

2-Chris Brown, his career is very fresh and he has started to heavily lip. I can only imagine what the future holds.

3-Janet The Queen of prerecording vocals. Shes not the queen because I think she does it often but because she does it sooo well that it almost sounds like a live vocal. I dont think her problem is that she cant sing. Its just that her voice is thin so she needs the support.

4 Madonna She is someone who should use prerecorded vocals more. Her tone is sooo unpleasant that its not even funny. On my list, she onle edged Janet out by .000000000000001 of a margin.

5-Mariah Carey/ MJ(tie) Both started off very good live singer but intheir later years resorted more to a track. also unlike the others on the list, they are above average, actually great singers.

Bey is someone who prerecords more than whart she is given credit for. I would dub her the princess of prerecorded vocals(see Janet above for explanation).

Rhianna is someone who should prerecord her vocals. RThey sound so tired, off key and lifeless in her shows... UGH!!!!

What are your picks???

All of the above Lip sing however the ones I think have done it the MOST out of the group are Madonna, Janet Jackson, Brittany Spears, and Chris Brown.

The one person who I think gets way TO MUCH credit for their alleged live vocals 100 percent of the time is Beyawncee. She uses pre recorded vocals more than what the general public thinks but since she can sing it goes un notice. Although she can sing, she isnt really a good technical live singer with the constant screaming, non controling, oversinging and non emotional while singing. Also, the reason why she uses pre-recorded vocals is because she doesnt have the energy to dance and sing at the same time which is really unexcusable because what she does isnt intricate dancing. Tina Turner never used pre recorded vocals but then again its.... Tina Turner.

I think MJ and Mariah did it when it was unnessary to in their later years but they PROVED to be GREAT LIVE singers during their prime (and to me thats where it counts most importantly even though its not something good to do unnessarily) and they are talented singers, (the most out of this group )so its not a huge deal and for the majority they have sung live of their careers and even Michael while doing intricate dancing which is impressive. If Michael wanted to, he could have sung live which is the point and Mariah currently sometimes sings live.

Janet is the QUEEN of pre recorded vocals but personally although she lip sings professionally I still think you can tell that she is lip singing which is why she is the Queen but she does it without looking like she is trying to.

Janet lip sings way to much un nessarily tho....... even when she FIRST started out.

During dance numbers is understandable but even doing it during ballads. I can count on one hand how often she ever sung live. She is not a great singer but she has the range where she could have still sung live more and has a pleasant voice. I think she is a much better singer than Madonna.

Madonna pretty much gets flack for not singing live (so this is pretty much a broken record) and was never known to sing live but I can recall times where she has for slower ballads. She is not a great singer either.

Brittany Spears and Chris Brown are known to lip sing. CB hasnt never done a slow ballad song live and primarily just does dance numbers same with Brittany, both cant sing anyway.

My list wretch lip-sync (only used the previously mentioned artists)
1. Britney Spears
2. Chris Brown
3. Janet Jackson
4. MJ (90s)
5. Mariah Carey (00s)
6. Мadonna
7. MJ (80s)

8. Mariah Carey (90s)

I think Michael and Mariah deserve at 2 positions, because they started out as a mostly live and very good singers, and then began very brazenly use the play-back

Katy Perry and Rihanna really need to use more play-back, listen to them so painful to the ears

purple05 said:

MOST entertainers use playback every now and then, whether pre-recorded or straight from the track.

BUT these group of entertainers are KNOWN for their use of playback.

MJ

Madonna

Mariah Carey

Janet

Chris Brown

Britney Spears

Rank who you think has done it more in their career(based on the list of people and their overall career) and who do you think does it but gets a pass(not listed). 1-being the most and 6- being the least.

1- B. Spears, have she EVER sung live

2-Chris Brown, his career is very fresh and he has started to heavily lip. I can only imagine what the future holds.

3-Janet The Queen of prerecording vocals. Shes not the queen because I think she does it often but because she does it sooo well that it almost sounds like a live vocal. I dont think her problem is that she cant sing. Its just that her voice is thin so she needs the support.

4 Madonna She is someone who should use prerecorded vocals more. Her tone is sooo unpleasant that its not even funny. On my list, she onle edged Janet out by .000000000000001 of a margin.

5-Mariah Carey/ MJ(tie) Both started off very good live singer but intheir later years resorted more to a track. also unlike the others on the list, they are above average, actually great singers.

Bey is someone who prerecords more than whart she is given credit for. I would dub her the princess of prerecorded vocals(see Janet above for explanation).

Rhianna is someone who should prerecord her vocals. RThey sound so tired, off key and lifeless in her shows... UGH!!!!

What are your picks???

Wrong. Most entertainers do NOT use playback. In the last 25 years there have been an increasing amount of pop stars who have mimed because they haven't had the vocal chops to sing live for extended periods. But they are still a massive minority of the overall entertainers out there.

It's more common in pop music because the success of pop stars has always been less dependent on their talent and authenticity than it is for other types of artists. Ask yourself how many blues artists or old soul, folk or country singers have ever mimed in concert. The answer is pretty much none. Most new artists (outside of manufactured pop) don't either.

The plain fact is no-one ever mimes in concert unless they are vocally deficient in some way. That includes MJ and Mariah who sang completely live for years until vocal problems forced them to cheat a little (and then a lot in MJ's case).

midnightmover said:

Wrong. Most entertainers do NOT use playback. In the last 25 years there have been an increasing amount of pop stars who have mimed because they haven't had the vocal chops to sing live for extended periods. But they are still a massive minority of the overall entertainers out there.

It's more common in pop music because the success of pop stars has always been less dependent on their talent and authenticity than it is for other types of artists. Ask yourself how many blues artists or old soul, folk or country singers have ever mimed in concert. The answer is pretty much none. Most new artists (outside of manufactured pop) don't either.

The plain fact is no-one ever mimes in concert unless they are vocally deficient in some way. That includes MJ and Mariah who sang completely live for years until vocal problems forced them to cheat a little (and then a lot in MJ's case).

Some artists use playback not because they don't have vocal chops to sing live, but because they are also dancing and it's very difficult to dance strenously and also have perfect vocals. Those other types of music like blues, soul, folk or country don't involve dancing. MJ is a perfect example. I'm not really a fan of his, but he had a very good voice but he felt that the audience wanted to see him dance and he was known for that. So he used prerecorded vocals sometimes so he could give the fans a complete entertainment experience. Of course, he could have stood there and just sung live, but people would be dissappointed in that. Lady Gaga is a contemporary example. She has a really good voice but she does use playback on the songs where she does a lot of dancing.

I don't have a problem with someone using some playback (not the whole concert) if they are also doing some amazing dancing, which is also a skill. However, I don't like it when people like Mariah Carey who really aren't dancing use playback to cover up their vocal weaknesses.

I be damn if I'd pay big bucks to hear someone lip sync during a concert.... you can't sing.

As far as the excuse some artist/musicians can't sing and dance at the same time, that like saying they can't walk and chew gum. Well, maybe many can't do that either. When I saw the Temps, O'Jays, Heartbreakers, Gladys Knight and The Pips, Ike and Tina's Soul Review, Jackson5/Jackson's or whomever those singers/musicians sung and danced their asses off, THEY SUNG LIVE.

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[Edited 9/26/12 6:27am]

TD3 said:

I be damn if I'd pay big bucks so hear someone lip sync during a concert.... you can't sing.

As far as the excuse some artist/musicians can't sing and dance at the same time, that like saying they can't walk and chew gum. Well, maybe many can't do that either. When I saw the Temps, O'Jays, Heartbreakers, Gladys Knight and The Pips, Ike and Tina's Soul Review, Jackson5/Jackson's or whomever those singers/musicians sung and danced their asses off, THEY SUNG LIVE.

One of my favorite concerts ever was Kool and The Gang "In The Heart" from 1983-1984. I know KATG form the 80s gets a lot of criticism for going the pop route, but no one can deny their talent. They played, sang, and danced their butts off. Never missed a note...dance steps were flawless...harmonies were always perfect.

purple05 said:

MOST entertainers use playback every now and then, whether pre-recorded or straight from the track.

BUT these group of entertainers are KNOWN for their use of playback.

MJ

Madonna

Mariah Carey

Janet

Chris Brown

Britney Spears

Rank who you think has done it more in their career(based on the list of people and their overall career) and who do you think does it but gets a pass(not listed). 1-being the most and 6- being the least.

1- B. Spears, have she EVER sung live

2-Chris Brown, his career is very fresh and he has started to heavily lip. I can only imagine what the future holds.

3-Janet The Queen of prerecording vocals. Shes not the queen because I think she does it often but because she does it sooo well that it almost sounds like a live vocal. I dont think her problem is that she cant sing. Its just that her voice is thin so she needs the support.

4 Madonna She is someone who should use prerecorded vocals more. Her tone is sooo unpleasant that its not even funny. On my list, she onle edged Janet out by .000000000000001 of a margin.

5-Mariah Carey/ MJ(tie) Both started off very good live singer but intheir later years resorted more to a track. also unlike the others on the list, they are above average, actually great singers.

Bey is someone who prerecords more than whart she is given credit for. I would dub her the princess of prerecorded vocals(see Janet above for explanation).

Rhianna is someone who should prerecord her vocals. RThey sound so tired, off key and lifeless in her shows... UGH!!!!

What are your picks???

I was gonna say why is Beyone being left off of this list? I admit I've only been able to sit thru her "live" performances like maybe twice and both of them were lip-synched. And from what I hear from others, most of her performances are. She's a dancer. And when you are doing complicated dance routines while singing at the same time, chances are the vocals are pre-recorded.

Glindathegood said:

midnightmover said:

Wrong. Most entertainers do NOT use playback. In the last 25 years there have been an increasing amount of pop stars who have mimed because they haven't had the vocal chops to sing live for extended periods. But they are still a massive minority of the overall entertainers out there.

It's more common in pop music because the success of pop stars has always been less dependent on their talent and authenticity than it is for other types of artists. Ask yourself how many blues artists or old soul, folk or country singers have ever mimed in concert. The answer is pretty much none. Most new artists (outside of manufactured pop) don't either.

The plain fact is no-one ever mimes in concert unless they are vocally deficient in some way. That includes MJ and Mariah who sang completely live for years until vocal problems forced them to cheat a little (and then a lot in MJ's case).

Some artists use playback not because they don't have vocal chops to sing live, but because they are also dancing and it's very difficult to dance strenously and also have perfect vocals. Those other types of music like blues, soul, folk or country don't involve dancing. MJ is a perfect example. I'm not really a fan of his, but he had a very good voice but he felt that the audience wanted to see him dance and he was known for that. So he used prerecorded vocals sometimes so he could give the fans a complete entertainment experience. Of course, he could have stood there and just sung live, but people would be dissappointed in that. Lady Gaga is a contemporary example. She has a really good voice but she does use playback on the songs where she does a lot of dancing.

I don't have a problem with someone using some playback (not the whole concert) if they are also doing some amazing dancing, which is also a skill. However, I don't like it when people like Mariah Carey who really aren't dancing use playback to cover up their vocal weaknesses.

MJ could sing & dance live till 1992, but after that his body couldnt do it anymore which is understandable, dancing & singing like he did in the 60s, 70s & 80s isnt an easy thing to do. All the dance routines he had for 2 hrs is really hard work, it's like running on a football field for 2 hours. I wish the fans didnt push him to do all of that dancing, because I LOVE his voice. I dont think a person like Mariah Carey has an excuse, I've heard she's very stiff live and doesn't realy move around. I I dont think Gaga has a good voice to be honest, but she should focus more on the vocals than her poor dancing skills. Many artists who dont sing good enough, should focus on the singing because that's why people pay to see them.

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

kitbradley said:

purple05 said:

MOST entertainers use playback every now and then, whether pre-recorded or straight from the track.

BUT these group of entertainers are KNOWN for their use of playback.

MJ

Madonna

Mariah Carey

Janet

Chris Brown

Britney Spears

Rank who you think has done it more in their career(based on the list of people and their overall career) and who do you think does it but gets a pass(not listed). 1-being the most and 6- being the least.

1- B. Spears, have she EVER sung live

2-Chris Brown, his career is very fresh and he has started to heavily lip. I can only imagine what the future holds.

3-Janet The Queen of prerecording vocals. Shes not the queen because I think she does it often but because she does it sooo well that it almost sounds like a live vocal. I dont think her problem is that she cant sing. Its just that her voice is thin so she needs the support.

4 Madonna She is someone who should use prerecorded vocals more. Her tone is sooo unpleasant that its not even funny. On my list, she onle edged Janet out by .000000000000001 of a margin.

5-Mariah Carey/ MJ(tie) Both started off very good live singer but intheir later years resorted more to a track. also unlike the others on the list, they are above average, actually great singers.

Bey is someone who prerecords more than whart she is given credit for. I would dub her the princess of prerecorded vocals(see Janet above for explanation).

Rhianna is someone who should prerecord her vocals. RThey sound so tired, off key and lifeless in her shows... UGH!!!!

What are your picks???

I was gonna say why is Beyone being left off of this list? I admit I've only been able to sit thru her "live" performances like maybe twice and both of them were lip-synched. And from what I hear from others, most of her performances are. She's a dancer. And when you are doing complicated dance routines while singing at the same time, chances are the vocals are pre-recorded.

But Beyonces dances arent complicated or intricate where she would need to lip sing

There is no excuse for her why she cant sing live because Tina was doing the same shit she does way before she was even born and did the whole routine LIVE.

Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson do COMPLEX dancing not Beyonce who just shakes her ass and does interactive movements.

What she does is NO WHERE near intricate dancing and she could still sing live if she really wanted to but since she technically isnt really a natural dancer she needs all the focus on completing a step than on vocals which says alot right there especially when the steps are not intricate.

At her age Michael Jackson, Tina Turner etc were doing EVERYTHING LIVE while DANCING.......... NO EXCUSE especially when she cant dance and her choregraphy isnt complicated.

[Edited 9/27/12 18:13pm]

GoldDolphin said:

Glindathegood said:

Some artists use playback not because they don't have vocal chops to sing live, but because they are also dancing and it's very difficult to dance strenously and also have perfect vocals. Those other types of music like blues, soul, folk or country don't involve dancing. MJ is a perfect example. I'm not really a fan of his, but he had a very good voice but he felt that the audience wanted to see him dance and he was known for that. So he used prerecorded vocals sometimes so he could give the fans a complete entertainment experience. Of course, he could have stood there and just sung live, but people would be dissappointed in that. Lady Gaga is a contemporary example. She has a really good voice but she does use playback on the songs where she does a lot of dancing.

I don't have a problem with someone using some playback (not the whole concert) if they are also doing some amazing dancing, which is also a skill. However, I don't like it when people like Mariah Carey who really aren't dancing use playback to cover up their vocal weaknesses.

MJ could sing & dance live till 1992, but after that his body couldnt do it anymore which is understandable, dancing & singing like he did in the 60s, 70s & 80s isnt an easy thing to do. All the dance routines he had for 2 hrs is really hard work, it's like running on a football field for 2 hours. I wish the fans didnt push him to do all of that dancing, because I LOVE his voice. I dont think a person like Mariah Carey has an excuse, I've heard she's very stiff live and doesn't realy move around. I I dont think Gaga has a good voice to be honest, but she should focus more on the vocals than her poor dancing skills. Many artists who dont sing good enough, should focus on the singing because that's why people pay to see them.

this is very true........he had proved his merit way back in the day....it's no telling how many spins he's executed in his lifetime.....all the rehearsals, performances......years upon years....

and I never had a problem with the miming....for he only mimed for certan songs such as Human Nature, and that was mainly towards the end of that song.....

I looked at it as if he was giving tribute to the art form.....

[Edited 9/27/12 18:52pm]

All I know is Whitney didn't lip sync.

I remember back in a 2009 interview, she said "Now you know I don't lip sync!"

JoeTyler said:

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

You didn't know MJ was a God who can do no wrong around these parts?

Scorp said:

GoldDolphin said:

MJ could sing & dance live till 1992, but after that his body couldnt do it anymore which is understandable, dancing & singing like he did in the 60s, 70s & 80s isnt an easy thing to do. All the dance routines he had for 2 hrs is really hard work, it's like running on a football field for 2 hours. I wish the fans didnt push him to do all of that dancing, because I LOVE his voice. I dont think a person like Mariah Carey has an excuse, I've heard she's very stiff live and doesn't realy move around. I I dont think Gaga has a good voice to be honest, but she should focus more on the vocals than her poor dancing skills. Many artists who dont sing good enough, should focus on the singing because that's why people pay to see them.

this is very true........he had proved his merit way back in the day....it's no telling how many spins he's executed in his lifetime.....all the rehearsals, performances......years upon years....

and I never had a problem with the miming....for he only mimed for certan songs such as Human Nature, and that was mainly towards the end of that song.....

I looked at it as if he was giving tribute to the art form.....

[Edited 9/27/12 18:52pm]

First time we actually agree on something, I see we are making progress lmao

Terrib3Towel said:

All I know is Whitney didn't lip sync.

I remember back in a 2009 interview, she said "Now you know I don't lip sync!"

The way she was sounding during the last 10 years of her career. it wouldn't have been a bad idea.

kitbradley said:

Terrib3Towel said:

All I know is Whitney didn't lip sync.

I remember back in a 2009 interview, she said "Now you know I don't lip sync!"

The way she was sounding during the last 10 years of her career. it wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Please! I would rather hear Whitney sing live at any stage of her life than any of those bitches mentioned above. Girl lost a good portion of her great voice from drugs etc, but she could still outsing the likes of Janet, Madonna, and fuckin Britney anyday!

kitbradley said:

Terrib3Towel said:

All I know is Whitney didn't lip sync.

I remember back in a 2009 interview, she said "Now you know I don't lip sync!"

The way she was sounding during the last 10 years of her career. it wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Whitney wasnt THAT bad.

She had her moments:

Oprah 2009

AMAs 2009

BET COG 2011

Milano 2010

XF Italy

German TV 2009

Those were all good performances.

JoeTyler said:

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

I dont know.
Mention only his name in this thread, when the artist was singing live almost every song in the 60's, 70's, 80's - a little unfair, at least.
second half of the 90's .... yes, but in general, he is far from the title of the main play-back.

Whitney never really abused the play-back, but would be better if she used it on her last tour. Hear what has become with the best voice in the history of pop music was a bit painful.

mjscarousal said:

kitbradley said:

The way she was sounding during the last 10 years of her career. it wouldn't have been a bad idea.

Whitney wasnt THAT bad.

Now, you've seen all of those clips where she was sounding like Issac Hayes and where she was croaking/talking her way thru songs. I would post some clips but I will be respectful since the poor thing is no longer with us. But, the performances speak for themselves. They are all over youtube. Seriously, I know it really bothered her that her voice had deteriorated so much over the years. If anyone should have been using pre-recorded vocals it should have been Nippy. It would have salvaged her reputation as a "live" performer.

[Edited 9/28/12 10:56am]

JoeTyler said:

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

I agree.

I dont think he sang live once after Bad

Terrib3Towel said:

JoeTyler said:

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

You didn't know MJ was a God who can do no wrong around these parts?

kitbradley said:

mjscarousal said:

Whitney wasnt THAT bad.

Now, you've seen all of those clips where she was sounding like Issac Hayes and where she was croaking/talking her way thru songs. I would post some clips but I will be respectful since the poor thing is no longer with us. But, the performances speak for themselves. They are all over youtube. Seriously, I know it really bothered her that her voice had deteriorated so much over the years. If anyone should have been using pre-recorded vocals it should have been Nippy. It would have salvaged her reputation as a "live" performer.

[Edited 9/28/12 10:56am]

I mean no doubt her voice wasnt the same..... but she definitly still was alot better than the shit we have to listen to today.

She didnt continue to do a whole lot of belting for her to have to mime every single performance. Even on that song from Sparkle, Celebrate, its not her greatest moment as a singer but it clearly shows that her voice wasnt completely shot.

LiLi1992 said:

JoeTyler said:

Michael Jackson, at least since the 90s

and you all know it

I dont know.
Mention only his name in this thread, when the artist was singing live almost every song in the 60's, 70's, 80's - a little unfair, at least.
second half of the 90's .... yes, but in general, he is far from the title of the main play-back.

AGREE

Dont pay these Madonna and Janet stans no mind

There just mad because Janet and Madonna have made an ENTIRE Career off of doing the shit.

[Edited 9/28/12 11:22am]

Michael equally made a small fortune off of lipsyncing, I'm sure he banked 100's of millions from Dangerous and History tours, where he lip synced almost completely. Even if he lost all that money by time of death...

Madonna doesn't lip synch as often as everyone says. Have you even watched any of her live concerts lately? She hits all kinds of bum notes!

MidniteMagnet said:

Madonna doesn't lip synch as often as everyone says. Have you even watched any of her live concerts lately? She hits all kinds of bum notes!

Read my first post.. I ACKNOWLEDGE that she has sung live sometimes.

But its utterly ridiculous to trash an artist just because your fav is being called on something they have made an entire career of doing and MJ did sing 60 percent of Dangerous Live and 10 percent of History..... by that time he had paid his dues and people know he can sing live.... UNLIKE...........

A thread ALWAYS has to turned into a MJ bash fest its really ridiculous...

[Edited 9/28/12 13:15pm]

Stop being so immature. Your obsession clouds your posts.

We are talking about lip syncing, something MJ did excessively.

You don't see Britney Spears fans bombarding this thread with contraries, nor the Whitney fan proclaiming that Whitney never lost her voice, nor Janet fans protesting her relaince on miming.

Grow up.

[Edited 9/28/12 13:30pm]

No dear I think your the one that needs to grow up and get a grip on your obession with bashing MJ

Nobody said MJ didnt lip sing. Where have I said MJ NEVER lip singed. Your are delusionally crazy. Saying he excessively mimed is a bullshit when he didnt make an entire career off of miming. That is something he latered did. The ONLY tour he majority mimed was History but even all that was not 100 percent mimed.

I think you need to GROW UP and your VERY immature. Why not just come out and insist you dont like MJ everytime you comment on him instead of trying to come off like your not biased when you clearly are. You obviously have not looked at ANY tours after BAD because you would not be foolishly insisting that MJ mimed 100 percent after BAD

[Edited 9/28/12 13:46pm]