Robin Thicke Working on New Album, Disco Inspired

Posted on August 29th, 2012 by ThisisRnB in NEWS |http://www.thisisrnb.com/...-inspired/

This guy is irking me as the day goes by...Thoughts? "Black disco???"

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I thought he just put out another album recently? Dude has my permission to take a break.

What is black disco and how is it different from white disco or biracial disco??

Say it isn't so.........................

MidniteMagnet said:

What is black disco and how is it different from white disco or biracial disco??

Well there is Euro and Italo disco, and it sounds different from the disco from the US. A lot of the US "disco" was really R&B and funk based, and Eurodisco is less so, it's more synthetic sounding. People think R&B/funk means "black" music, so that's when white people make it, it's called "blue eyed soul".

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I think this sounds like a great idea

On previous albums,Robin tried a 70s disco-inspired sound on tracks like "Magic","Something Else" and "Rolla Coasta".Now he seems like he wants to go all the way with that concept,and I think it's great.Take it back to the Old School,like Jamiroquai does I'm very anxious to hear the results.

I'll be interested in hearing what he comes up with, if it's not supposed to be just another by-the-numbers R&B album. I don't expect him to be the American Jay Kay/Jamiroquai, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if the results are just as good.

MickyDolenz said:

MidniteMagnet said:

What is black disco and how is it different from white disco or biracial disco??

Well there is Euro and Italo disco, and it sounds different from the disco from the US. A lot of the US "disco" was really R&B and funk based, and Eurodisco is less so, it's more synthetic sounding. People think R&B/funk means "black" music, so that's when white people make it, it's called "blue eyed soul".

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But all of these sub-genres are plain unnecessary because it was rooted or in a more subjective term, "originated" from somewhere. True, US "disco" was highly rooted in the rhythmic forms of R&B and funk, whereas Eurodisco was more electronic. But in someway, every form of disco took form in some entity of R&B and funk style.

silverchild said:

But all of these sub-genres are plain unnecessary

People have always named music different things according to sound or where it came from. With the blues, there is country blues, Chicago blues, swamp blues, Texas blues, jump blues, boogie woogie, folk blues, soul blues, blues rock, and so on. Jazz: big band, bop, cool, free, smooth, funk jazz, jazz rock, Latin jazz, etc.

But we already have white boys doing black disco:

Jamiroquai

No good can come of this.

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Robin can probably pull this style of music off in the studio. It'll probably play well on the radio like "Magic" did. However, when it's time to perform live.......If you make "disco" music or "house" music people might expect you to boogie......a lil' anyway. I saw Robin in concert once......I loved his performance of "Lost Without You".

Side note: There are two Black Men in Jamiroquai and their style of music is a bit more than disco (house). LOL!!!

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Shaolin325 said:

If you make "disco" music or "house" music people might expect you to boogie

I've noticed many acts that make dance music don't/can't dance like Depeche Mode, Donna Summer, Taylor Dayne, Bee Gees, Earth Wind & Fire, Pet Shop Boys, Lisa Lisa, Martha Wash, etc. Sam Cooke made songs about dancing, but he was pretty stiff.

I wanna "disco" his wife.

MickyDolenz said:

Shaolin325 said:

If you make "disco" music or "house" music people might expect you to boogie

I've noticed many acts that make dance music don't/can't dance like Depeche Mode, Donna Summer, Taylor Dayne, Bee Gees, Earth Wind & Fire, Pet Shop Boys, Lisa Lisa, Martha Wash, etc. Sam Cooke made songs about dancing, but he was pretty stiff.

Right. So he'll probably play well on radio....as I stated.

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MickyDolenz said:

silverchild said:

But all of these sub-genres are plain unnecessary

People have always named music different things according to sound or where it came from. With the blues, there is country blues, Chicago blues, swamp blues, Texas blues, jump blues, boogie woogie, folk blues, soul blues, blues rock, and so on. Jazz: big band, bop, cool, free, smooth, funk jazz, jazz rock, Latin jazz, etc.

True because they have their own distinct sound and style.

Identity said:

I wanna "disco" his wife.

Amen to that! She can sing too. I liked his last CD. It was influenced by Marvin.

"Black disco" is just as bad as "blue eyed soul".

If folks don't cut it out...

Oh and who WOULDN'T wanna be with Paula? I know I do. I know, I know... "get in line man".

If it actually lives up to the name black disco, it'll be hot! Hell, that's what everyone should be trying to make instead of the bullshit that they're making these days.

vainandy said:

If it actually lives up to the name black disco, it'll be hot! Hell, that's what everyone should be trying to make instead of the bullshit that they're making these days.

"Black disco"... anyone else wonders how silly that sounds?

Anyways, what would you expect it to be good? You usually don't believe the hype so why would you even attempt to buy this? C'mon now...

MickyDolenz said:

MidniteMagnet said:

What is black disco and how is it different from white disco or biracial disco??

Well there is Euro and Italo disco, and it sounds different from the disco from the US. A lot of the US "disco" was really R&B and funk based, and Eurodisco is less so, it's more synthetic sounding. People think R&B/funk means "black" music, so that's when white people make it, it's called "blue eyed soul".

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Exactly. That Eurodisco stuff that they make these days sounds absolutely horrible. It doesn't sound like any form of disco whatsoever. I don't even know why they would even attach the word disco to it because trance is what it is. When I think disco, I think Chic, The Barkays during the "Move Your Boogie Body" era, Foxy, Con Funk Shun during the "Chase Me" era, Donna Summer, Rick James during the "You And I" era, etc. That trance shit sounds NOTHING like that.

Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

If it actually lives up to the name black disco, it'll be hot! Hell, that's what everyone should be trying to make instead of the bullshit that they're making these days.

"Black disco"... anyone else wonders how silly that sounds?

Anyways, what would you expect it to be good? You usually don't believe the hype so why would you even attempt to buy this? C'mon now...

I bought "Magic" and considered it decent. It sound kinda Chic-ish.

As for black disco, when it comes to the actual disco era of the 1970s, all of it, whether it was black or white artists, sounded black except for the corny shit from folks like Ethel Merman trying to cash in on the era. Hell, all this black sounding music coming from everyone both white and black was one of the reasons for the backlash against it because they didn't want folks sounding black, mingling with blacks, or anything else. If you notice country even made a huge splash in the year 1980 on the pop charts. It was "get as far away from black as possible" during that time.

But since the house era, the term disco has been thrown around very loosely. They called house music disco, they called trance music disco, now they're calling all this europop, electronica, or whatever the hell it's called these days, disco. It's like anything that's fast and uptempo, no matter how it sounds, they call it disco these days. I'm not one for being politically correct, never have been and never will be. I just tell it like it is and if folks get offended by it, that's their problem. House/dance music like Black Box, The 49ers, Ce Ce Penniston, M People etc. sounds black. Even the white acts from that era such as Clubland sounds black also. And all that stuff was playing over in the black gay clubs during that era. And at the same time over in the white gay clubs, they played some of those groups but they also had other stuff that sounded like a whiter version of it and it was trance. The concept was still dance but the feel of it was completely different. The house stuff was very rhythmic and you could actually dance to it, shaking ass, rolling titties, all that type of stuff. The trance stuff, if you wanted to dance to it, it was basically for jumping up and down rhythmless like on a pogo stick. Kinda reminds me of the difference of the dancing on Soul Train in the 1980s vs. American Banstand in the 1980s where Soul Train was full of rhythmic ass shaking and tittie rolling and on American Banstand they all danced like the girl in the Bruce Springstein "Dancing In The Dark" video. Blacks on American Bandstand were dancing like that too because that's all you could do with music like that. Yes, there's a difference in a black sound and a white sound. It may not seem like it these days because new black artists are just as rhythmless as white artists but there has always been a difference until recent years.

vainandy said:

If it actually lives up to the name black disco, it'll be hot! Hell, that's what everyone should be trying to make instead of the bullshit that they're making these days.

I agree It would be so cool if today's R&B artists had the same mindset that Jamiroquai has....screw all the current trends and hip-hop elements,and take it back to the Old School! Bring back the Chic-like basslines,the infectious hooks,the strings.We need a return to that type of sound.

SoulAlive said:

vainandy said:

If it actually lives up to the name black disco, it'll be hot! Hell, that's what everyone should be trying to make instead of the bullshit that they're making these days.

I agree It would be so cool if today's R&B artists had the same mindset that Jamiroquai has....screw all the current trends and hip-hop elements,and take it back to the Old School! Bring back the Chic-like basslines,the infectious hooks,the strings.We need a return to that type of sound.

Exactly! The first time I ever heard the song "Magic", I thought it was Jamiroquai. When the DJ said it was Robin Thicke, I was shocked because all I had ever heard from him were those tired ass ballads. But I will say this, and if it pisses people off, I don't give a damn, but from what I've seen these days when people have showed me some good new music because Andy ain't gonna "search" for shit because he shouldn't have to....is that every single time something has actually sounded good and even remotely "black", it has come from white artists these days. Everything people have introduced to me from a black artist recently has been some old tired ass ballad or something with some sort of either damn shit hop element in it or trance. I don't want even a trace of that shit in it. What the hell is this, The Twilight Zone! White folks jamming underground and black folks making dull boring Lawrence Welk tempoed music! It's like role reversal.

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vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree It would be so cool if today's R&B artists had the same mindset that Jamiroquai has....screw all the current trends and hip-hop elements,and take it back to the Old School! Bring back the Chic-like basslines,the infectious hooks,the strings.We need a return to that type of sound.

Exactly! The first time I ever heard the song "Magic", I thought it was Jamiroquai. When the DJ said it was Robin Thicke, I was shocked because all I had ever heard from him were those tired ass ballads. But I will say this, and if it pisses people off, I don't give a damn, but from what I've seen these days when people have showed me some good new music because Andy ain't gonna "search" for shit because he shouldn't have to....is that every single time something has actually sounded good and even remotely "black", it has come from white artists these days. Everything people have introduced to me from a black artist recently has been some old tired ass ballad or something with some sort of either damn shit hop element in it or trance. I don't want even a trace of that shit in it. What the hell is this, The Twilight Zone! White folks jamming underground and black folks making dull boring Lawrence Welk tempoed music! It's like role reversal.

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The Jamiroquai hit from Robin is subtle and swell - I get it. Very different in all things that they do, but both men know how to ride a beat and turn a swell phrase. Robin covering Return of The Space Cowboy would work just as well as J covering Magic. Magic smokes; Robin had his girl cover it on the Duets show and boy did I wear out the rewind button on that DVR remote.

Not too sure of the "black disco name" but I think him doing a disco album seems like a goodmove. I'd definitely check itout. He's someone i'd like to get into but can't since his stuff is so slow but if it's upbeat i'd like to hear it.

Black disco is funk. Or perhaps white funk is disco.

vainandy said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree It would be so cool if today's R&B artists had the same mindset that Jamiroquai has....screw all the current trends and hip-hop elements,and take it back to the Old School! Bring back the Chic-like basslines,the infectious hooks,the strings.We need a return to that type of sound.

Exactly! The first time I ever heard the song "Magic", I thought it was Jamiroquai. When the DJ said it was Robin Thicke, I was shocked because all I had ever heard from him were those tired ass ballads. But I will say this, and if it pisses people off, I don't give a damn, but from what I've seen these days when people have showed me some good new music because Andy ain't gonna "search" for shit because he shouldn't have to....is that every single time something has actually sounded good and even remotely "black", it has come from white artists these days. Everything people have introduced to me from a black artist recently has been some old tired ass ballad or something with some sort of either damn shit hop element in it or trance. I don't want even a trace of that shit in it. What the hell is this, The Twilight Zone! White folks jamming underground and black folks making dull boring Lawrence Welk tempoed music! It's like role reversal.

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Well to be quite honest the definition of "black music" has changed a lot over the years, so while funk is still black music, so is hip-hop. Black isn't just one specific sound.

He need to sit down somewhere. smh

Timmy84 said:

"Black disco" is just as bad as "blue eyed soul".

If folks don't cut it out...

Oh and who WOULDN'T wanna be with Paula? I know I do. I know, I know... "get in line man".

A white man doing Black disco. People need to fucking stop.

...and I used to fuck Paula's Hair dresser