MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

I've listened to it and any elements of today's music is too much. When I listen to music, I listen to escape and have a good time. I don't want to hear any elements of today's sound to remind me that yes, music in general is still more fucked up that it has ever been in the history of music. That just spoils the whole mood while listening to it. It's like being at a party for an ex drug addict who has totally given up drugs and has moved on and somebody at the party just HAS to bring up the subject of drugs to depress him.

It has a retro feel but it's mixed with current elements which makes it feel fake and unauthentic. It sounds watered down. I didn't like my funk watered down with pop for crossover appeal back in the 1980s so I sure as hell don't like my music watered down with today's music which sounds even worse.

Jam and Lewis is part of today's sound and Morris has sung hooks on rap songs and had rappers on his Guaranteed & It's About Time albums, so it's not really unauthentic.

Jam and Lewis sold out as far back as the 1990s and I haven't liked any of their stuff since. And Morris' "Guranteed" album was absolutely horrible. I had it on cassette and when I bought a CD recorder in the 2000s and started recording all my cassettes onto CDs, I didn't even record the "Guranteed" cassette and just threw it in the trash.

Graycap23 said:

MickyDolenz said:

I've only heard one Mint Condition song in the 1990's, it was a ballad. I've never heard anyone mention them except on this site.

What type of music do u listen 2?

I listen to the stuff I post, mostly oldies.

vainandy said:

MickyDolenz said:

Jam and Lewis is part of today's sound and Morris has sung hooks on rap songs and had rappers on his Guaranteed & It's About Time albums, so it's not really unauthentic.

Jam and Lewis sold out as far back as the 1990s and I haven't liked any of their stuff since. And Morris' "Guranteed" album was absolutely horrible. I had it on cassette and when I bought a CD recorder in the 2000s and started recording all my cassettes onto CDs, I didn't even record the "Guranteed" cassette and just threw it in the trash.

It's not really any different than The Beatles changing their sound from Love Me Do to psychedelic. Psychedelic wasn't their original sound, but they weren't called sellouts, even if some didn't like the later music.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

Jam and Lewis sold out as far back as the 1990s and I haven't liked any of their stuff since. And Morris' "Guranteed" album was absolutely horrible. I had it on cassette and when I bought a CD recorder in the 2000s and started recording all my cassettes onto CDs, I didn't even record the "Guranteed" cassette and just threw it in the trash.

It's not really any different than The Beatles changing their sound from Love Me Do to psychedelic. Psychedelic wasn't their original sound, but they weren't called sellouts, even if some didn't like the later music.

You're comparing artists changing their sound in the past to something different. It's not the same thing at all. I'm talking about selling out to shit hop and neo stool. That's the worst thing someone could do....ever. Hell, if you can't make no money making R&B these days, then make country like Lionel Richie. Hell, ANYTHING is better than selling out to shit hop, neo stool, and anything else that is considered R&B in the present day and age.

vainandy said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's not really any different than The Beatles changing their sound from Love Me Do to psychedelic. Psychedelic wasn't their original sound, but they weren't called sellouts, even if some didn't like the later music.

You're comparing artists changing their sound in the past to something different. It's not the same thing at all. I'm talking about selling out to shit hop and neo stool. That's the worst thing someone could do....ever. Hell, if you can't make no money making R&B these days, then make country like Lionel Richie. Hell, ANYTHING is better than selling out to shit hop, neo stool, and anything else that is considered R&B in the present day and age.

Lionel put out a couple of albums with current R&B acts, but didn't have much success with them. Country music always sells, as much of the country audience is separate from the pop audience, although the popular country now is really just pop music with a twangy guitar thrown on top of it. Country music has separate award programs that are shown on regular network TV every year.

Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Good idea. The problem is the only format that would embrace it doesn't which is

Urban/AC. Nobody is doing music the way we knew it in the 80's.

Just curious...............what do u call what Mint Condition is doing?

They are probably the exception and even they aren't releasing funk singles to

radio. They know their bread and butter. You have to go to their shows to hear funk.