MickyDolenz said:

2elijah said:

Wow, just looking at those vinyls makes me want to start creating a new vinyl collection. I'm actually thinking of purchasing a stereo set with a record player included.

On the record version of this album, there's a couple of tracks that's not on the CD.

Thanks, I'll have to add that one to the start of my collection.

2elijah said:

lastdecember said:

Very good views and thoughts and i know people LOVE the ease of digital and the fact that they dont have to buy a huge rack to store their cds or albums or even tapes anymore, so i think people are missing something in all this.

I recently saw an interview with Richard Marx while he was promoting his latest work, and i think the interviewer asked them the question that every artist OLDER gets asked, what do u think of how music is put out now. Well Richard replied in a way that was from a genuine music lover, not in angry way that was "MUSIC IS GETTING STOLEN" because there are still sales and touring money made, if you put the stuff out yourself there is profit. But Richards answer was "When I was a kid, music was LIKE THIS (meaning a big album)" then "When i was recording and getting into the business and having my own kids, music shrunk to THIS (meaning a small disc), NOW "Music has almost disappeared its this little box picture on your ipod of mp3 player" and he also continued to say "That music had lost its meaning in peoples life because there is so much to compete with in other forms of media etc.." and referenced something I THINK we all can identify with he said " you know i love the Foo Fighters and if they have a new record I'll buy it first day, but i may not listen to it right away" now that is a perfect sum up of how music has lost its meaning BECAUSE of the ease of getting it and not even knowing you have gotten it.

Thanks for that. I agree with him. As much as it's cool to purchase a song off the internet. I just always feel something is missing. To know it's just left on my computer, and then later I might copy it on cd in case of computer issues down the road, then transfer it to my music player, where it remains, with no album cover, history of the song, etc., etc

I mean I think the digital age is great for new artists being able to market themselves, and reach a broader audience, rather than waiting for a record label or rec exec to discover them. But then let's say they obtain a major audience on their own through the internet. When it comes to booking in clubs/venues for live performances, wouldn't they still need the help of promoters or record label execs or the backing and promotion of an already, established musician to back them up? I am wondering how it works from there, since there are so many artists doing self-promotion, but when it comes to getting actual booking in clubs/venues to further promote, don't you think it becomes more difficult at that point, if they don't have good financial backing from a major promoter or someone in that league that could help back them financially?

yeah thats where there is some confusion, i think at least. Alot of Indie artists especially around here in NYC, and many in the hip hop genre, one that im not really into, they tend to try and "brand" themselves, whatever the hell that means, because honestly to me "brand" means different, i always thought brands tried to seperate, but i see alot of the same old stuff in the newer artists marketing themselves, shooting their own clips etc...though it may be cool and bring them some cheddar, i dont think its lasting. NOW if you have been around since the age of albums or cds, you are pretty set, you dont need billboard at this point, you have the following to tour whch is your bread and butter, and then you can toss out new music on small labels or your own label to bring in some extra revenue. I dont feel the newer artists, in large (some can), can do tours and survive. Without catalog there really is nothing

This 2009 Cheap Trick album was released on 8-track:

I bet you people are still releasing their material on cassette tapes... I almost wanted to say SpaceGhostPurrp and his Rvxdxr Klvn click does it but I'm not sure.

In Arlington, the Eight-Track Cartridge Lives! No, Seriously. Just Ask Cheap Trick.

By Robert Wilonsky
Published Fri., Jul. 10 2009 at 11:16 AM

That Cheap Trick eight-track cartridge Stephen Colbert was holding up last week? Made in Arlington. Hand to God. By mom-and-pop's KTS Productions, to be specific -- though you'd never know it from reading recent stories concerning Cheap Trick's expensive gimmick, which'll set you back $30 should you pre-order a copy of the band's latest, The Latest. A Globe and Mail story about the eight-track from last Friday's been making the rounds -- it bounced onto BoingBoing Sunday -- but it only says that the band's manager, David Frey, "finally found a small plant in Dallas, Tex., for the retro-fit."

It took a few calls, but finally Frey's office got back to us: Not Dallas, sorry, but Arlington. Which is news to the Texas Music Office, which doesn't even list KTS Productions in its Texas music business directory.

Turns out, Kathy and Dan Gibson may be the last of the eight-track-tape-makers -- other local CD and cassette replicators to whom Unfair Park spoke earlier this week found just the concept unfathomable, given its demise 'round 1988. Said one old-timer out in Fort Worth, "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of." Dan and Kathy Gibson, who run KTSP, would most assuredly disagree -- and they've got Cheap Trick's business to prove it.

"I guess they just went to the Web site," Kathy tells Unfair Park, giving her first interview since news of the Cheap Trick eight-track started spreading. "Not a lot of people do that, but they contacted us, and we said we could help them. That was about a little over a month ago, and it was very exciting -- one of those things we'd been hoping would happen. We're trying to bring kind of an obsolete format back from the dead, bring it into the 21st century. So, yeah, it was exciting. That's one of those thing where you have to shout a little bit when it happens."

Initially, the Gibsons were simply into the eight-track collecting-and-selling business, which they started about 11 years ago over at Kate's Track Shack. Most of that collection came from Bucks Burnett, the former proprietor of 14 Records on Greenville Avenue and, once upon a long time ago, one of the subjects of the So Wrong They're Right, a doc about the last of the format's true believers. (In 1998, Burnett's band, The Volares, released its debut on eight-track as well. But when I asked Burnett earlier this week who might have made the Cheap Trick tape, he was stumped, as he too didn't think anyone still made 'em.)

"We sell tapes all over the world," Kathy says. "All kinds of stuff. They're just fun, and we've met so many people through the eight-track. We've met people all over the world. Last year, we sold we sold one to Russia."

She says it was just natural to move from collecting to manufacturing, which she insists wasn't difficult -- they already had the shells and the other necessary "pieces and parts." Besides, this was her dream all along, as she puts it: "to see new eight-tracks being produced." It didn't take long to get some business -- from Tesla, for whom the Gibson's produced a version of the covers collection Real to Reel.

"It's time-consuming work," Kathy says. "One of the things we kind of had a little issue with working through with the Cheap Trick folks was trying to put the songs in the order they wanted and in an order we needed to have them so they didn't have a ton of extra time at the end of the tracks. That's how it was done back in the day: You try to keep your first and last tracks the same as the album, but sometimes you have to tweak the program so everything comes together smoothly."

At the moment, Cheap Trick's taking pre-orders for The Latest eight-track -- and Kathy warns it's a small number, so hop to should you want one of the collectibles. (Frey has suggested in several articles that the item is really more of a novelty intended to get the attention of radio-station programmers who'd likely blow off yet another Cheap Trick release at this late date in the band's career.) But if the band needs more, she says, "we'll produce more."

Because, see, she and Dan believe this to be a potentially thriving business. And why not? Players are plentiful and inexpensive -- eBay's loaded with the suckers. It's the Gibsons' preferred format: Kathy says that's pretty much all she and Dan listen to when they're out working in the garage, and she's got a player in the dashboard -- how very spirit of '76. And though media coverage has so far neglected to mention the makers of The Latest, word has spread through the music business that, believe it or not, there's somebody in Texas still making the eight-track. So business is picking up, slowly but surely, and the Gibsons are now on a quest for better manufacturing equipment to meet the need.

"Sure we're hoping to see more," she says. "We've already been contacted by several other folks who want their CDs put out on eight-track. At this point, they're smaller acts, I would say, but Cheap Trick's doing interviews, and, as they go on tour and promote it, I think we'll see more. So we're looking to get molds and dies to make the shells ourselves, and we're always looking for people who have that old technology. We're looking for any of the old things that made the eight-track the eight-track."

when you download something it's not the same with ownership. Pay $15 for an album when I was a kid and would have to live with my purchase..good/bad. i had to give a lot of albums that i did not like at first a try because money was limited and i could only buy x amount of music. now if something sucks onto the next (because downloading = instant, unlimited music) but as we know a lot of good music does not work that way. you simply cannot listen to new music a couple times and decide, some of the best music grows on you. sometimes an album will suck at release but you can rediscover it years down the road and really like it, if your head is in the right place.

lastdecember said:

2elijah said:

Thanks for that. I agree with him. As much as it's cool to purchase a song off the internet. I just always feel something is missing. To know it's just left on my computer, and then later I might copy it on cd in case of computer issues down the road, then transfer it to my music player, where it remains, with no album cover, history of the song, etc., etc

I mean I think the digital age is great for new artists being able to market themselves, and reach a broader audience, rather than waiting for a record label or rec exec to discover them. But then let's say they obtain a major audience on their own through the internet. When it comes to booking in clubs/venues for live performances, wouldn't they still need the help of promoters or record label execs or the backing and promotion of an already, established musician to back them up? I am wondering how it works from there, since there are so many artists doing self-promotion, but when it comes to getting actual booking in clubs/venues to further promote, don't you think it becomes more difficult at that point, if they don't have good financial backing from a major promoter or someone in that league that could help back them financially?

yeah thats where there is some confusion, i think at least. Alot of Indie artists especially around here in NYC, and many in the hip hop genre, one that im not really into, they tend to try and "brand" themselves, whatever the hell that means, because honestly to me "brand" means different, i always thought brands tried to seperate, but i see alot of the same old stuff in the newer artists marketing themselves, shooting their own clips etc...though it may be cool and bring them some cheddar, i dont think its lasting. NOW if you have been around since the age of albums or cds, you are pretty set, you dont need billboard at this point, you have the following to tour whch is your bread and butter, and then you can toss out new music on small labels or your own label to bring in some extra revenue. I dont feel the newer artists, in large (some can), can do tours and survive. Without catalog there really is nothing

I agree with the last part of your post. I think the days of artists becoming legends are gone. The ones that have been around pre-mid 90s, may have a chance because new sounds were still being presented, but since the 2000s, there's been no music revolution prior to the mid 90s. The so-called popular new artists from the later 90s era to present day, sound the same and their hits are forgotten easily. If they don't stay on top they're easily out of the picture. I find that even some internet radio stations cater to the 70s-mid 90s, and play the classic songs of legendary artists who came out in the mid to late 70s. Today, what's on the radio, with so-called popular artists, is nothing but electronica pop crap that sounds the same.

I welcome a lot of the indie artists that dare to be different.

[Edited 8/26/12 20:05pm]

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

aardvark15 said:

The pluses of each:

Digital Music- Very portable and incredibly easy to get for free (there's many artists who's music I wouldn't have otherwise)

agreed. same goes for expensive food, flat screen TVs, console games, cute Itlaian sports cars and all that. if not for free, there are lots of goodies I wouldn't have otherwise.

you don't expect me to PAY for all those, I mean LOL am I a milionare or what? LOLOL

aardvark15 said:

Vinyl- Big and smells old

How old are you?

MickyDolenz said:

aardvark15 said:

I didn't think anybody still made vinyl records

They do, but they're costly. The Van Halen album cost me 36 dollars, and it's red vinyl. Some record companies still make cassettes, my mom buys them from a mail order catalog. Occasionally, an act will even get an 8-track release. There's a local record store that sells new release vinyl.

These are not some transfer from the digital version are they?

MickyDolenz said:

In Arlington, the Eight-Track Cartridge Lives! No, Seriously. Just Ask Cheap Trick.

By Robert Wilonsky
Published Fri., Jul. 10 2009 at 11:16 AM

That Cheap Trick eight-track cartridge Stephen Colbert was holding up last week? Made in Arlington. Hand to God. By mom-and-pop's KTS Productions, to be specific -- though you'd never know it from reading recent stories concerning Cheap Trick's expensive gimmick, which'll set you back $30 should you pre-order a copy of the band's latest, The Latest. A Globe and Mail story about the eight-track from last Friday's been making the rounds -- it bounced onto BoingBoing Sunday -- but it only says that the band's manager, David Frey, "finally found a small plant in Dallas, Tex., for the retro-fit."

It took a few calls, but finally Frey's office got back to us: Not Dallas, sorry, but Arlington. Which is news to the Texas Music Office, which doesn't even list KTS Productions in its Texas music business directory.

Turns out, Kathy and Dan Gibson may be the last of the eight-track-tape-makers -- other local CD and cassette replicators to whom Unfair Park spoke earlier this week found just the concept unfathomable, given its demise 'round 1988. Said one old-timer out in Fort Worth, "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of." Dan and Kathy Gibson, who run KTSP, would most assuredly disagree -- and they've got Cheap Trick's business to prove it.

"I guess they just went to the Web site," Kathy tells Unfair Park, giving her first interview since news of the Cheap Trick eight-track started spreading. "Not a lot of people do that, but they contacted us, and we said we could help them. That was about a little over a month ago, and it was very exciting -- one of those things we'd been hoping would happen. We're trying to bring kind of an obsolete format back from the dead, bring it into the 21st century. So, yeah, it was exciting. That's one of those thing where you have to shout a little bit when it happens."

Initially, the Gibsons were simply into the eight-track collecting-and-selling business, which they started about 11 years ago over at Kate's Track Shack. Most of that collection came from Bucks Burnett, the former proprietor of 14 Records on Greenville Avenue and, once upon a long time ago, one of the subjects of the So Wrong They're Right, a doc about the last of the format's true believers. (In 1998, Burnett's band, The Volares, released its debut on eight-track as well. But when I asked Burnett earlier this week who might have made the Cheap Trick tape, he was stumped, as he too didn't think anyone still made 'em.)

"We sell tapes all over the world," Kathy says. "All kinds of stuff. They're just fun, and we've met so many people through the eight-track. We've met people all over the world. Last year, we sold we sold one to Russia."

She says it was just natural to move from collecting to manufacturing, which she insists wasn't difficult -- they already had the shells and the other necessary "pieces and parts." Besides, this was her dream all along, as she puts it: "to see new eight-tracks being produced." It didn't take long to get some business -- from Tesla, for whom the Gibson's produced a version of the covers collection Real to Reel.

"It's time-consuming work," Kathy says. "One of the things we kind of had a little issue with working through with the Cheap Trick folks was trying to put the songs in the order they wanted and in an order we needed to have them so they didn't have a ton of extra time at the end of the tracks. That's how it was done back in the day: You try to keep your first and last tracks the same as the album, but sometimes you have to tweak the program so everything comes together smoothly."

At the moment, Cheap Trick's taking pre-orders for The Latest eight-track -- and Kathy warns it's a small number, so hop to should you want one of the collectibles. (Frey has suggested in several articles that the item is really more of a novelty intended to get the attention of radio-station programmers who'd likely blow off yet another Cheap Trick release at this late date in the band's career.) But if the band needs more, she says, "we'll produce more."

Because, see, she and Dan believe this to be a potentially thriving business. And why not? Players are plentiful and inexpensive -- eBay's loaded with the suckers. It's the Gibsons' preferred format: Kathy says that's pretty much all she and Dan listen to when they're out working in the garage, and she's got a player in the dashboard -- how very spirit of '76. And though media coverage has so far neglected to mention the makers of The Latest, word has spread through the music business that, believe it or not, there's somebody in Texas still making the eight-track. So business is picking up, slowly but surely, and the Gibsons are now on a quest for better manufacturing equipment to meet the need.

"Sure we're hoping to see more," she says. "We've already been contacted by several other folks who want their CDs put out on eight-track. At this point, they're smaller acts, I would say, but Cheap Trick's doing interviews, and, as they go on tour and promote it, I think we'll see more. So we're looking to get molds and dies to make the shells ourselves, and we're always looking for people who have that old technology. We're looking for any of the old things that made the eight-track the eight-track."

KTS Productions

A new release on 8 Track would have to be released in very limited quantities and be strictly for hardcore collectors. I can see releasing on vinyl because there has always been a lot of us who never got rid of our turntables, they still make new turntables, and there are also more people these days getting back into vinyl. But as for 8 Tracks, very few people still have 8 track players and they don't even make the players anymore unless you buy one from a thrift store or an old used player from the internet. There's just not a big enough demand for the 8 track format anymore.

2elijah said:

lastdecember said:

yeah thats where there is some confusion, i think at least. Alot of Indie artists especially around here in NYC, and many in the hip hop genre, one that im not really into, they tend to try and "brand" themselves, whatever the hell that means, because honestly to me "brand" means different, i always thought brands tried to seperate, but i see alot of the same old stuff in the newer artists marketing themselves, shooting their own clips etc...though it may be cool and bring them some cheddar, i dont think its lasting. NOW if you have been around since the age of albums or cds, you are pretty set, you dont need billboard at this point, you have the following to tour whch is your bread and butter, and then you can toss out new music on small labels or your own label to bring in some extra revenue. I dont feel the newer artists, in large (some can), can do tours and survive. Without catalog there really is nothing

I agree with the last part of your post. I think the days of artists becoming legends are gone. The ones that have been around pre-mid 90s, may have a chance because new sounds were still being presented, but since the 2000s, there's been no music revolution prior to the mid 90s. The so-called popular new artists from the later 90s era to present day, sound the same and their hits are forgotten easily. If they don't stay on top they're easily out of the picture. I find that even some internet radio stations cater to the 70s-mid 90s, and play the classic songs of legendary artists who came out in the mid to late 70s. Today, what's on the radio, with so-called popular artists, is nothing but electronica pop crap that sounds the same.

I welcome a lot of the indie artists that dare to be different.

[Edited 8/26/12 20:05pm]

On regular radio, I've noticed more oldies stations popping up that play music from the 1960s through the 1980s. We've had one in particular since 1998 that has changed it's oldies format several times throughout the years. It started out as an oldies R&B station that played R&B from the 1960s and 1970s. Then they expanded over into the 1980s. Then they changed their format into pop music from the 1960s through the 1980s. Then they went back to R&B from the 1960s and 1970s and now they're back to pop from the 1960s and 1970s. They keep changing their format but apparently they are too damn stupid to realize that the reason that people keep getting tired of them, is because they play the same handful of songs from those decades over and over numerous times of the day until people get sick of that handful of songs. It's not that people are tired of the format, it's that people are tired of the limited songs from those areas that they play. There are thousands of songs from those eras but they only play about 200 or so and play them over and over. That's Clear Channel for you though.

Then we had another oldies station to pop up around 2004 or 2005 and they played pop/rock from the 1970s and 1980s and sometimes they might slip in a 1960s song or two in and that was fine. They at least played a bigger variety of pop/rock than the other station did. Where they fucked up is when the 2010s arrived, they started slipping in a 1990s song or two in. Then they started slipping even more 1990s songs in. Hell, lots of folks that like the music from the 1960s through the 1980s, hate the music from the 1990s. I know I used to turn the station as fast as I could when I'd hear a 1990s song come on because it would just ruin my whole mood in the car before I even made it to work. The 1990s was just a depressing damn era, especially now knowing that it was the beginning of the end.

funkycat00 said:

MickyDolenz said:

They do, but they're costly. The Van Halen album cost me 36 dollars, and it's red vinyl. Some record companies still make cassettes, my mom buys them from a mail order catalog. Occasionally, an act will even get an 8-track release. There's a local record store that sells new release vinyl.

These are not some transfer from the digital version are they?

Why would you come to that assumption?

[Edited 8/27/12 14:40pm]

funkycat00 said:

These are not some transfer from the digital version are they?

It probably depends on the individual labels in whether separate masters are used. Some acts record with analog equipment. I think John Mellencamp released an album that was recorded on mono.

vainandy said:

A new release on 8 Track would have to be released in very limited quantities and be strictly for hardcore collectors. I can see releasing on vinyl because there has always been a lot of us who never got rid of our turntables, they still make new turntables, and there are also more people these days getting back into vinyl. But as for 8 Tracks, very few people still have 8 track players and they don't even make the players anymore unless you buy one from a thrift store or an old used player from the internet. There's just not a big enough demand for the 8 track format anymore.

They still make cassette decks though. There's a market for everything. Some people buy victrolas, and they were long out of style when 8-tracks were popular.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

A new release on 8 Track would have to be released in very limited quantities and be strictly for hardcore collectors. I can see releasing on vinyl because there has always been a lot of us who never got rid of our turntables, they still make new turntables, and there are also more people these days getting back into vinyl. But as for 8 Tracks, very few people still have 8 track players and they don't even make the players anymore unless you buy one from a thrift store or an old used player from the internet. There's just not a big enough demand for the 8 track format anymore.

They still make cassette decks though. There's a market for everything. Some people buy victrolas, and they were long out of style when 8-tracks were popular.

NYC just lost a major store in terms of catering to that stuff and that was COLONY records, it had been there over 60 years and i can remember being taken there as a kid with my older brother and just seeing all this stuff! Very sad that music like that (and i dont mean the time period) is never gonna be again. Due to alot of major changes in NYC and the cost of renting anything going through the roof, the average apartment in NYC is around 3000 a month, and thats the average for basically no space, a studio apartment can be as high as 2500 at least.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

A new release on 8 Track would have to be released in very limited quantities and be strictly for hardcore collectors. I can see releasing on vinyl because there has always been a lot of us who never got rid of our turntables, they still make new turntables, and there are also more people these days getting back into vinyl. But as for 8 Tracks, very few people still have 8 track players and they don't even make the players anymore unless you buy one from a thrift store or an old used player from the internet. There's just not a big enough demand for the 8 track format anymore.

They still make cassette decks though. There's a market for everything. Some people buy victrolas, and they were long out of style when 8-tracks were popular.

I know they still make cassette decks. Hell, I wish I still had one for purposes of recording mixes (you can edit out mistakes with a pause button on a cassette rather than having to do the whole mix over again live when recording on a CD). But those cassette decks ain't gonna play no 8 tracks though. You'd still have to get a used one from a thrift shop or garage sale (and then you're taking a chance because it might not even work).

But what the hell is a victrola? Is it an old record player that plays 78s? I never had any 78s (I'm not THAT old ). But if I did have some, I'd definately want something that could play them.

vainandy said:

MickyDolenz said:

They still make cassette decks though. There's a market for everything. Some people buy victrolas, and they were long out of style when 8-tracks were popular.

I know they still make cassette decks. Hell, I wish I still had one for purposes of recording mixes (you can edit out mistakes with a pause button on a cassette rather than having to do the whole mix over again live when recording on a CD). But those cassette decks ain't gonna play no 8 tracks though. You'd still have to get a used one from a thrift shop or garage sale (and then you're taking a chance because it might not even work).

But what the hell is a victrola? Is it an old record player that plays 78s? I never had any 78s (I'm not THAT old ). But if I did have some, I'd definately want something that could play them.

It's one of those early wind up record players. You don't need that to play 78s though. My grandmother's 1970's floor stereo had 16, 45, 33, & 78 speeds. 78s were brittle and broke easily. I've never actually seen a record that was 16 speed and didn't know what it was for. I did look it up on the internet a while back, and apparently it was mostly used for recordings of speeches. When I was little, I would play certain 45 & 33 records on the 78 speed. One record sounded like chickens sqawking.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

I know they still make cassette decks. Hell, I wish I still had one for purposes of recording mixes (you can edit out mistakes with a pause button on a cassette rather than having to do the whole mix over again live when recording on a CD). But those cassette decks ain't gonna play no 8 tracks though. You'd still have to get a used one from a thrift shop or garage sale (and then you're taking a chance because it might not even work).

But what the hell is a victrola? Is it an old record player that plays 78s? I never had any 78s (I'm not THAT old ). But if I did have some, I'd definately want something that could play them.

It's one of those early wind up record players. You don't need that to play 78s though. My grandmother's 1970's floor stereo had 16, 45, 33, & 78 speeds. 78s were brittle and broke easily. I've never actually seen a record that was 16 speed and didn't know what it was for. I did look it up on the internet a while back, and apparently it was mostly used for recordings of speeches. When I was little, I would play certain 45 & 33 records on the 78 speed. One record sounded like chickens sqawking.

I remember when record players had a 78 speed on them. My grandmother had some 78s also but they were the exact opposite. They were much thicker vinyl than albums. I remember she spanked my ass once with one of them. I can't remember but I think they were 10 inches instead of 12 inches.

vainandy said:

I remember when record players had a 78 speed on them. My grandmother had some 78s also but they were the exact opposite. They were much thicker vinyl than albums. I remember she spanked my ass once with one of them. I can't remember but I think they were 10 inches instead of 12 inches.

My grandmother had 78's too, but they all wound up getting shattered from getting dropped. I don't remember what the songs on them were, probably gospel and blues songs.

MickyDolenz said:

vainandy said:

I remember when record players had a 78 speed on them. My grandmother had some 78s also but they were the exact opposite. They were much thicker vinyl than albums. I remember she spanked my ass once with one of them. I can't remember but I think they were 10 inches instead of 12 inches.

My grandmother had 78's too, but they all wound up getting shattered from getting dropped. I don't remember what the songs on them were, probably gospel and blues songs.

You guys just refreshed my memories of those 78s. I used to love that size vinyl.

I saw one of these in a store and just saw it online, going for $136.00. It definitely has a nostalgic look and is tempting...but....

..... I like this one better because I can get the best of two eras. It's going for $179.00 online. This one is a recording record player and transfers vinyl to USB or an SD card. I think I like the functions this one can do better and it's more updated.

Here's info on it at this website: www.brookstone.com

"Play your classic Crosley Tech USB Recording Record Player is Portable Audio Ready (PAR), making connections easy. Plus it features a CD player and AM/FM radio. Size is 11.5" x 12.4" x 6.5vinyl memories and today's latest downloads, on a Crosley Tech USB Recording Record Player from Brookstone"