The price has jumped from $34.99 to $39.99. I wonder why?

You think we're still gettin an extra disc?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Bad25 is officialy off my radar now, lol.

I will be purchasing BOTH Bad 25 and this compilation. One has nothing to do with the other.

Free2BMe said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Bad25 is officialy off my radar now, lol.

I will be purchasing BOTH Bad 25 and this compilation. One has nothing to do with the other.

I will get it too, it just sucks Sony is giving us 5 new songs compared to 30+ from Motown.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Free2BMe said:

I will be purchasing BOTH Bad 25 and this compilation. One has nothing to do with the other.

I will get it too, it just sucks Sony is giving us 5 new songs compared to 30+ from Motown.

LOL! I understand what you are saying.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Free2BMe said:

I will be purchasing BOTH Bad 25 and this compilation. One has nothing to do with the other.

I will get it too, it just sucks Sony is giving us 5 new songs compared to 30+ from Motown.

I wonder does the original mix of the Off The Wall album still exist. It's on the very first pressing which had the old orange target Epic label, which is very rare. It was soon remixed, and this is what is on the blue/black label that Epic changed to around that time, and all of the other pressings.

In Argentina, some J5 records were on the Rare Earth label, not the main Motown one.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Free2BMe said:

I will be purchasing BOTH Bad 25 and this compilation. One has nothing to do with the other.

I will get it too, it just sucks Sony is giving us 5 new songs compared to 30+ from Motown.

Me three,

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I will get it too, it just sucks Sony is giving us 5 new songs compared to 30+ from Motown.

I wonder does the original mix of the Off The Wall album still exist. It's on the very first pressing which had the old orange target Epic label, which is very rare. It was soon remixed, and this is what is on the blue/black label that Epic changed to around that time, and all of the other pressings.

In Argentina, some J5 records were on the Rare Earth label, not the main Motown one.

Actually there are still original versions of Off The Wall that still exist both on vinyl and CD. You may need to find the very first Japan-for-US or Japan-for-Europe CDs that were pressed with the original album cover with Michael. The original versions of the album also contained original mixes of "Rock With You," "Workin' Day and Night," and "Get On The Floor."

silverchild said:

Actually there are still original versions of Off The Wall that still exist both on vinyl and CD. You may need to find the very first Japan-for-US or Japan-for-Europe CDs that were pressed with the original album cover with Michael. The original versions of the album also contained original mixes of "Rock With You," "Workin' Day and Night," and "Get On The Floor."

I didn't know the original mix was put on CD, since by the time CDs came out, the 2nd mix of the album was the known version. I wonder how that happened.

MickyDolenz said:

silverchild said:

Actually there are still original versions of Off The Wall that still exist both on vinyl and CD. You may need to find the very first Japan-for-US or Japan-for-Europe CDs that were pressed with the original album cover with Michael. The original versions of the album also contained original mixes of "Rock With You," "Workin' Day and Night," and "Get On The Floor."

I didn't know the original mix was put on CD, since by the time CDs came out, the 2nd mix of the album was the known version. I wonder how that happened.

There's no apparent idea, but everyone knows that the early CD and LP pressings contain the original mixes of "Rock With You" and "Get On The Floor", which Michael apparently disliked and replaced them with alternate mixes which are now the standard mixes. The alternate mix of the former is the long version of the single mix. I guess Japan had the master tapes with the original mixes. All current CDs and second pressings of the vinyl LP have the remixes. The only way to obtain the original mixes on CD is by hunting down a early Japanese pressing from 1983 and copies of those will run you at least $200 bucks.

silverchild said:

There's no apparent idea, but everyone knows that the early CD and LP pressings contain the original mixes of "Rock With You" and "Get On The Floor", which Michael apparently disliked and replaced them with alternate mixes which are now the standard mixes.

Can anybody say what the main differences between the early and late mixes of these tracks are (besides the length)?

Please??

Thanx

tritoncin said:

Can anybody say what the main differences between the early and late mixes of these tracks are (besides the length)?

Please??

Thanx

Here's a couple of them

LittleBLUECorvette said:

The price has jumped from $34.99 to $39.99. I wonder why?

You think we're still gettin an extra disc?

I gotta laugh at Amazon's fluctuating prices. Their products will go up or down in price on any given day. For what reason, I dont know. The price for this set has now dropped to $31.53

LittleBLUECorvette said:

The price has jumped from $34.99 to $39.99. I wonder why?

You think we're still gettin an extra disc?

Should count ureself lucky, in the UK at Amazon they are asking $87.64 on pre-order!!!!!!

tritoncin said:

silverchild said:

There's no apparent idea, but everyone knows that the early CD and LP pressings contain the original mixes of "Rock With You" and "Get On The Floor", which Michael apparently disliked and replaced them with alternate mixes which are now the standard mixes.

Can anybody say what the main differences between the early and late mixes of these tracks are (besides the length)?

Please??

Thanx

The most obvious difference with "Rock With You" is the absence of the handclaps that were used in the more popular reworked version and music video.

"Get On The Floor" has more bass reverb and thump...

Ellie said:

Funny how Motown are still doing the same thing they have for the last 35 years. STILL releasing J5 rarities at the same time a new MJ/Jacksons product comes out for anothe rlabel

Smart move actually.

76 - Jacksons debut on CBS and Motown came with Joyful Jukebox Music a month earlier. (Jermaine's album came out in August of that year.)

77 - Goin' Places in October and Jermaine's in August

1978 / 1979 - Destiny in December and Boogie (tryin to trick the public inton thinking this is "Blame It On The Boogie" in January of the next year.

79 - Off The Wall in August and Let's Get Serious in October of that year. Michael barley beat out Jermaine on the pop charts as his went #3 and Jermaine's #6.

84 - Victory in July and Farewell My Summer Love in May of that same year

87 - Bad in August and The Original Soul of MJ in October of that year

95 - HIStory and Soulsation were both released in June.

01 - Invicible in September and also the J5 2fer remaster that same month.

04 - The Jacksons Story and MJ's Ultimate Collection

08 - Thriller 25 (HEllo World was actually scheduled to come out around the same time.)

09 - This Is It and Unreleased Masters

10 - Michael and Live at the Forum

12 - Bad 25 and Come and Get It

Hopefully in the future

Victory 30 and Stevie Wonder Sessions

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Stevie Wonder Sessions

If Stevie owns the tapes, that's not likely to happen. I wonder if they're part of the deal that Stevie has been rumored to have in that they're supposed to be destroyed.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Stevie Wonder Sessions

If Stevie owns the tapes, that's not likely to happen. I wonder if they're part of the deal that Stevie has been rumored to have in that they're supposed to be destroyed.

If they put one track Buttercup on a previous compilation, then it shoudln't be that hard to get the others. I think they are waiting for the right time or will release them one by one on seperate compilations.

Motown still has over 150+ unreleased Jackson songs.

Got enough motown era Mike but damn they worked that boy hard

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

If Stevie owns the tapes, that's not likely to happen. I wonder if they're part of the deal that Stevie has been rumored to have in that they're supposed to be destroyed.

If they put one track Buttercup on a previous compilation, then it shoudln't be that hard to get the others. I think they are waiting for the right time or will release them one by one on seperate compilations.

Motown still has over 150+ unreleased Jackson songs.

I heard that Stevie approved Buttercup. Don't know if that's true or not. If Motown owns the recordings, then I don't think they would have to get permission from Stevie.

thesexofit said:

Got enough motown era Mike but damn they worked that boy hard

They did that with many of their classic era groups. Motown charged the acts whether or not they actually released the songs. In Detroit, it's been said the studio was recording 24 hours a day.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

If they put one track Buttercup on a previous compilation, then it shoudln't be that hard to get the others. I think they are waiting for the right time or will release them one by one on seperate compilations.

Motown still has over 150+ unreleased Jackson songs.

I heard that Stevie approved Buttercup. Don't know if that's true or not. If Motown owns the recordings, then I don't think they would have to get permission from Stevie.

I'm not sure how Stevie and Motown's deal works? I think Stevie owns his master recording with Motown, Motown is just an outlet for him to release his music. But I'm not sure if they need his permision to release his recordings he owns under his publishing?

In my booklet, it doesn't mention Buttercup is from Stevie's personal stash or whatever. It states it's taken from the original two-track masters. But on the alternate version of ABC, it does say it's from Deke Richards.

In that case, how does his songs for coutntless other artist appear on various comps like Rufus/Chaka Khan's Tell Me Something or Jermaine's Let's Get Serious among others?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

I heard that Stevie approved Buttercup. Don't know if that's true or not. If Motown owns the recordings, then I don't think they would have to get permission from Stevie.

I'm not sure how Stevie and Motown's deal works? I think Stevie owns his master recording with Motown, Motown is just an outlet for him to release his music. But I'm not sure if they need his permision to release his recordings he owns under his publishing?

In my booklet, it doesn't mention Buttercup is from Stevie's personal stash or whatever. It states it's taken from the original two-track masters. But on the alternate version of ABC, it does say it's from Deke Richards.

In that case, how does his songs for coutntless other artist appear on various comps like Rufus/Chaka Khan's Tell Me Something or Jermaine's Let's Get Serious among others?

Those songs are already released and Rufus is on another label. Songwriting and master recordings are not the same thing. It's been said that Motown can't release any of his unreleased tracks starting around 1971 and that any unreleased songs and demos are to be destroyed upon his death. I don't think that includes other acts, but I've heard that Stevie might have control of the masters he did with the J5. If he does, then Motown has to get his permission. If not, they don't.

I wonder if this J-5 release can escape the mess that is going on with the rest of the MJ's legacy and family... I certainly hope so. All I want is to hear these songs for the first time.

purplethunder3121 said:

I wonder if this J-5 release can escape the mess that is going on with the rest of the MJ's legacy and family... I certainly hope so. All I want is to hear these songs for the first time.

That's old news. Is it even still covered by CNN every night like it was a month ago?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I wonder if this J-5 release can escape the mess that is going on with the rest of the MJ's legacy and family... I certainly hope so. All I want is to hear these songs for the first time.

That's old news. Is it even still covered by CNN every night like it was a month ago?

It is new to me. I don't have CNN access. Looking forward to the J-5 release and any future Janet album; I don't care about the Jackson mess--sounds too much like my own family.

purplethunder3121 said:

Looking forward to the J-5 release and any future Janet album

I'd be interested in a new album by the brothers.

Buttercup was supposed to be the 1st single from that Stevie produced album. So I would have to think that might be the strongest track of the bunch.

But yeah, I would love to hear the rest.

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