#Madonna: When ALL Female Pop Stars Are Compared to You, It Means You Are The Greatest Female Pop Star of All-Time.

HAPPYPERSON said:

Madonna:Greatest Female Pop Star of All-Time

HAPPYPERSON said:

#Madonna: When ALL Female Pop Stars Are Compared to You, It Means You Are The Greatest Female Pop Star of All-Time.

When you have to say it.....

Subjective. debatable. boring.

No denying she has a cunt like a wizards sleeve though.

I agree. of course .... but please name someone that is greatest female pop star of all time in your option.

I'm curious. it's ok. that you don't like her though, just interested in how you think it is. (for those who disagree)

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asg said:

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There is no debate, she is by far the greatest female pop star of all time.

Madonna absolutely is.

She consistantly outsells and/or creates more buzz than all of her rivals (I hate using that word, because I don't think all the 'divas' actually compete with each other..some but not all).

Her appearance on live television often gets a standing ovation before she sings a note or says a word.

She instantly was labeled one of the top Superbowl half-time performers the night she performed.

And despite having released nothing but dreadful rehashes and souless albums for the last 10 years, every tour lights up the bloggosphere, and several shows sell out immediately.

Do I like Madonna? Erm.... I like her enough. I certainly do not think she is the artist she fancies herself to be. I also, don't think that she is nearly as substantial a force as Lady Gaga--I do believe the age of Gaga hasn't peeked artistically nor commercially, and that Gaga will have a sustained and fruitful career with albums that far eclipse Madonna's in artistry and interest (not to mention sheer talent).

But none of this matters in Pop. Madonna is the greatest female pop star of all time, if you simply judege it at a numbers game and her stamp on pop culture in general. There's no way to see it any other way.

But lawd hammercy do I wish she would either put out something good, or just retire already.

is Madonna the greatest female pop star of all time?

In terms of success,impact and longevity....the case could be made.She sold over 300 million records and is still selling out arenas and stadiums.

I'm curious to see what other female pop artists could be considered the greatest of all-time.

Like it or not, she is the biggest of All-time.

Can't think of any other woman who sold this many records, made this kind of impact and still selling out stadiums after 30 years.

I mean, who doesn't know madonna?

She's not the greatest for me though, but that's an opion.

robertlove said:

Like it or not, she is the biggest of All-time.

Can't think of any other woman who sold this many records, made this kind of impact and still selling out stadiums after 30 years.

I mean, who doesn't know madonna?

yeah,if Madonna isn't the greatest,then exactly who is? I'm trying to think of other female pop stars who have had that same type of success,impact and longevity.

imago said:

I don't think that she is nearly as substantial a force as Lady Gaga--I do believe the age of Gaga hasn't peeked artistically nor commercially, and that Gaga will have a sustained and fruitful career with albums that far eclipse Madonna's in artistry and interest (not to mention sheer talent).

Lady Gaga has potential,but I wonder if she will have the same type of longterm success that Madonna has had.30 years from now,will Gaga still be selling out arenas and stadiums? It just seems like today's artists won't have that same type of longevity....the Prince/Madonna/MJ-type of longevity.Look at Beyonce,she already seems to be fading a bit.

I'm not a big fan of Madonna and I think she is overrated (especially after a visit to her concert a few days ago - it was not bad, it was good, but I expected more, sometimes it looks like amateur), but I think she is the biggest female pop star of all time. She obviously has not great talent, but she is a workaholic, a great strategist and has an amazing instinct, which is why M is in business for over 30 years....It means something

My question would be, what determines someone as The Greatest Female Pop Star Of All Time"? Is it facts and achievements pertaining to the artist or is it the opinion of the artist's fans?

She is......but it just shows u how unimportant and pointless "pop" really is.

leecappella said:

My question would be, what determines someone as The Greatest Female Pop Star Of All Time"? Is it facts and achievements pertaining to the artist or is it the opinion of the artist's fans?

I think the public determines this mostly and impact because achievements really dont mean much if their is nothing to back it up with. Thats why when the media says... the next Madonna... the next MJ etc WE the public shake our head in disapproval because we know that isnt true.

We determine the longevity of artists.... not the media which is why artists like Brittany Spears, Beyonce etc have faded.

In todays music industry, most of the artists are media driven artists not real artists or entertainers. There all carbon copies of past artists and lack creativity and originality which is why they dont keep the public interested for long and wont have longevity.

We can say all day Madonna doesnt have raw talent (which she doesnt) but the public is still interested in her based on all the stadiums she still sells out and her influence after 30 years.

I think it depends on alot of things. I dont think its just on talent alone because MJ and Prince arent the greatest at what they do based on just talent alone although their talent is unmatched.

Impact, influence, innovation, etc carries more weight. I dont think Madonna is in the same category as her peers as far as talent but I cant think of no other FEMALE pop star who has made it bigger than her and who has the same impact.

There will never be no other pop artists who will have the same longevity, impact, influence and success as Michael, Prince and Madonna NO MATTER how hard the media tries to shove these mediocre quacks down our faces

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I remember watching that second youtube clip. I have it on tape.

Janet was #2, Whitney was 3, Britney was 4, Mariah was 5, Sheryl Crow was 6, TLC was 7, Shania Twain was 8, Gwen Stefani was 9, and Mary J. Blige was 10.

HAPPYPERSON said:

'Madonna:Greatest Female Pop Star of All-Time'

well duh

SoulAlive said:

imago said:

I don't think that she is nearly as substantial a force as Lady Gaga--I do believe the age of Gaga hasn't peeked artistically nor commercially, and that Gaga will have a sustained and fruitful career with albums that far eclipse Madonna's in artistry and interest (not to mention sheer talent).

Lady Gaga has potential,but I wonder if she will have the same type of longterm success that Madonna has had.30 years from now,will Gaga still be selling out arenas and stadiums? It just seems like today's artists won't have that same type of longevity....the Prince/Madonna/MJ-type of longevity.Look at Beyonce,she already seems to be fading a bit.

What I really miss with today's artists is creativity. Maybe it's an 80's thing, but those artist had all their on style. With artist like Beyonce and Britney it's all about showing skin. They could sing eachother's music.

Maybe Gaga does something with her clothes, but also her music isn't very different from the rest.

In the 80's you could say: THAT's Michael Jackson...THAT's Prince... And that's why they made such a long impact on people. Artist today don't make impacts, they all copy eachother and play it safe.

Madonna concert in Russia threatened, U.S. Embassy responds

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Madonna has made a career out of pushing buttons and poking at hornets’ nests, but her latest piece of controversy goes far beyondflashing her naughty bits, mucking with Nazi imagery, or deflecting catty barbs from Elton John.

In the wake of Madonna’s support for i...Pussy Riot(who are currently on trial for staging a protest and criticizing Vladimir Putin), the U.S. Embassy in Russia has encouraged fans attending Thursday’s show in St. Petersberg to be extra vigilant and alert following credible threats of violence.

In a statement posted on the...�s website, the organization noted, “The U.S. Consulate General in St. Petersburg has received information regarding a threat of physical violence against spectators and performers at the St. Petersburg concert on Aug. 9 … Russian authorities have indicated to the Embassy that they are taking appropriate measures in light of this information. While we expect that enhanced security measures will be put in place at both concerts, U.S. citizens are reminded to remain vigilant regarding their personal security, and to be aware of their surroundings at all times, especially in crowded areas.”

Last night’s show in Moscow went off without incident. During a break in the action, Madonna paused to talk about the imprisoned band. “I mean no disrespect to the church or the government,” the singer said. “But I think that these three girls — Masha, Katya, Nadya — have done something courageous, have paid the price for their act, and I pray for their freedom.”

I'm really thinking about buying a ticket once she hits the states. They aren't all sold out already are they?

musicjunky318 said:

I'm really thinking about buying a ticket once she hits the states. They aren't all sold out already are they?

Not yet.

robertlove said:

SoulAlive said:

Lady Gaga has potential,but I wonder if she will have the same type of longterm success that Madonna has had.30 years from now,will Gaga still be selling out arenas and stadiums? It just seems like today's artists won't have that same type of longevity....the Prince/Madonna/MJ-type of longevity.Look at Beyonce,she already seems to be fading a bit.

What I really miss with today's artists is creativity. Maybe it's an 80's thing, but those artist had all their on style. With artist like Beyonce and Britney it's all about showing skin. They could sing eachother's music.

Maybe Gaga does something with her clothes, but also her music isn't very different from the rest.

In the 80's you could say: THAT's Michael Jackson...THAT's Prince... And that's why they made such a long impact on people. Artist today don't make impacts, they all copy eachother and play it safe.

Very good point I always say that the 80s was the last decade where we truly had alot of original,groundbreaking artists.The artists had their own unique look and style.These days,very few artists dare to go against the grain and do unique things.Gaga is one exception,though.

Entertainment Tonight news report chronicling the Madonna mania and wannabes of 1985.

HAPPYPERSON said:

Entertainment Tonight news report chronicling the Madonna mania and wannabes of 1985.

selling 75000 albums a day...these days you're number one selling 75000 a week.

^ i know right

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LiLi1992 said:

I'm not a big fan of Madonna and I think she is overrated (especially after a visit to her concert a few days ago - it was not bad, it was good, but I expected more, sometimes it looks like amateur), but I think she is the biggest female pop star of all time. She obviously has not great talent, but she is a workaholic, a great strategist and has an amazing instinct, which is why M is in business for over 30 years....It means something

Ok, I'm a Madonna fan, so I can be a little partial. I understand and I totally agree with what you said. I think you made a good point in your observation of her. Yes, she has no great voice, vocal potential NOR vocal skills. No, she cannot play instruments. No, her live performances frequently (but not always, it must be said) are just ok, and she frequently uses back tapes, which is really a musical sin. But I'd like to say 2 things:

1. There's a talent factor in Madonna that most people don't recognize, or seem to notice. Yes, she's worked with dozens different composers and producers throughout her carreer, but, unlike misinformed people frequently judge misinformedly, she has almost always been part of the songwriting process. If she did not, how would the work of a dozen different songwriters sound like Madonna songs? Think of Patti LaBelle. She doesn't writes songs (she must have written 1 or 2, if she did). Yet, through her amazing interpretation, she makes all these different songwritters' work sound like HER songbook. It's another way to reach a similar result. Given these songs Madonna been part of the writing, think of the dozens hit pop songs... Could anyone say that they're all crap? There's at least 10 songs to her catalogue that I can sure imagine people dancing and partying to them decades to come. What does that mean? Pop classics. And a lot of them. To her credit. Madonna's GOTTA be a good pop songwritter. I mean, if you would think of a song such as "Like a Prayer", you might even say it's one of the very best songs since the rock era. I mean, I doubt any serious musician - even Prince - would disagree with some of her pop gems. Yes, it's pop music. And yes, it's done GREATLY. No, pop music doesn't have to sound intelectually refined, not even socially conscious. If it does, great. If it doesn't, that's not the heart of the question. Pop music is about a song that works, regardless.

2. I think that many of the cricticism towards Madonna concentrate only in terms of her sexual expression, which is said to be vulgar, or her opinions about politics. If you think she's done the biggest disservice to sexual understading socially or sexual politics or whatever, or if you think that she has nothing but stupid opinions politically or on anything, or even if you think she's the most despicable person, that's one thing. But that's about her as a person, you can't attack her music based on that. You simply cannot. It doesn't work. To think of music based primarly on anything else but the music is a serious mistake. And a dangerous one two. By these type of reasoning is how people get to fascist conclusions like "I only like music made by poors/blacks/Germans/English-speaking/whatever 'people's class'".

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