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Gladys Knight says Paris Jackson needs her teeth knocked out

This goes to show the culture difference. A Black child that would have called her Aunti a "bitch" would be on life support.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...out-teeth/

I agree with Ms. Knight whole-heartedly.

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Reply #1 posted 07/27/12 9:02pm

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Ditto!

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Reply #2 posted 07/27/12 9:05pm

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TBH, I don't believe the "bitch" comment the least bit. I think its made up by the tabloids/gossip blogs.

But I agree with Ms.Knight's logic. Disrespect shouldn't be tolerated.

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Reply #3 posted 07/27/12 9:05pm

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I doubt this thread will last but "teeth knocked out" is a figure of speech.

Do people have to have everything explained to them word for word to understand anything anymore???

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Reply #4 posted 07/27/12 9:14pm

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I think the 'teeth knocked out' stuff is too far.

But yeah, she does need someone to remind her of the boundaries. She's at that age where she's trying to push them and talk smack to her elders...

BTW, it's totally true that black female family members don't play that shit. I remember watching the footage of her and Janet like, "If I'd done that to my aunt, I'd have gotten the shit slapped out of me...and then when my mom found out she'd have whupped my ass, too." And notice one of the brothers had to step in and, looks like, stop Janet from taking a belt to her butt. lol

And when I read the tweets she made towards her uncle, I was thinking that would've been good for an ass whupping back in the day if I'd done something like that, too.

[Edited 7/27/12 21:18pm]

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Reply #5 posted 07/27/12 9:23pm

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Four-times married old buzzard should stop prying into the affairs of others and take care of her own household.

Why am I posting on a thread that's certain to get locked tomorrow? razz

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[Edited 7/27/12 21:28pm]

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Reply #6 posted 07/27/12 9:42pm

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I respected my elders because they behaved in a respectable manner around me.

Yes, if I was disrespectful I would have to answer for it, however if my mom even so much as suspected that one of my elders was taking advantage of me they would have gotten the crap beat out them.

Now as for Gladys, she should get the story straight before commenting because I doubt that Janet or Paris either slapped or cursed at each other. I believe that was a bit of media hype.

You cannot just roll up on anybody's kids without warning and take them away from home with no authorization no matter who you are. Even in cases of divorce the non custodial parent MUST have the permission of the custodial parent to take their own damn kid somewhere.

If you want respect you have to go about things in the proper way.

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Reply #7 posted 07/27/12 9:45pm

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This goes to show the culture difference. A Black child that would have called her Aunti a "bitch" would be on life support.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...out-teeth/

I agree with Ms. Knight whole-heartedly.

Not literally, but yes, indeed, strict discipline would occur.

That would happen in an Asian family too.

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Reply #8 posted 07/27/12 9:50pm

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From threads concerning this there is alot of orgers who seem to share Ms. Knights opinion.

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Reply #9 posted 07/27/12 10:06pm

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Now I'm not sure if this actually happened between Janet and Paris. I doubt either one called each other bitch. If Paris called her aunt that...then she's very much bringing shame to her father. No daughter of Michael Jackson should EVER talk that way to anyone, let alone family. neutral neutral

But I agree with Ms. Gladys...Paris Jackson needs discipline and structure. I could never speak like that to any family member...or even to friends of family. My family is Egyptian (North African) and demanded the highest respect from their children. My grandma is quick with a shoe. lol

I don't hear much about Prince or young Blanket, but hopefully no news means good news.

What a mess. confused

[Edited 7/27/12 22:09pm]

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Reply #10 posted 07/27/12 10:07pm

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Identity said:

Four-times married old buzzard should stop prying into the affairs of others and take care of her own household.

Why am I posting on a thread that's certain to get locked tomorrow? razz

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[Edited 7/27/12 21:28pm]

To be fair to Gladys, some members of the family who took to Twitter with private family business, made it public.

And when you put private issues before the public, you really can't turn around and say "Mind your own business", after the fact.

<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p class="bqoa">babynoz said:</p><p>I respected my elders because they behaved in a respectable manner around me.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, if I was disrespectful I would have to answer for it, however if my mom even so much as suspected that one of my elders was taking advantage of me they would have gotten the crap beat out them.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Now as for Gladys, she should get the story straight before commenting because I doubt that Janet or Paris either slapped or cursed at each other. I believe that was a bit of media hype.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You cannot just roll up on anybody's kids without warning and take them away from home with no authorization no matter who you are. Even in cases of divorce the non custodial parent MUST have the permission of the custodial parent to take their own damn kid somewhere.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If you want respect you have to go about things in the proper way.</p></blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

I find it incredibly wtf-ish that people are actually trying to condone this behavior.

In what world is is okay to disobey your aunt? And don't hand me that "Janet just came over and tried to grab them", because it wasn't just Janet and they were all informed of where their grandmother was and how they were being given an opportunity to go see her themselves.

And yeah - when you're a minor and you're online telling private info that involves your family, most adult members are going to try and confiscate your phone because you fucked up.

It's just incredibly weird to me how Michael Jackson fans will try and excuse literally anything, even things that in any other circumstance, they know is wrong, just because it has something to do with Michael or his kids.

Let's call a spade a spade, here - she was being disrespectful as hell and it was out of line, and nothing Janet did was uncalled for or abusive in any way. Hell, if it was me they'd have gotten footage of me running after her with a belt and giving her the Ass-whooping of Life; she got off easy when one of the brothers jumped in and held Janet back lol .

[Edited 7/27/12 22:14pm]

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From threads concerning this there is alot of orgers who seem to share Ms. Knights opinion.

That's not the case on that Katherine Jackson thread. lol Majority of those m.....posters, wish death on Ms. Knight now.

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Reply #12 posted 07/27/12 10:11pm

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Identity said:

Four-times married old buzzard should stop prying into the affairs of others and take care of her own household.

Why am I posting on a thread that's certain to get locked tomorrow? razz

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[Edited 7/27/12 21:28pm]

To be fair to Gladys, some members of the family who took to Twitter with private family business, made it public.

And when you put private issues before the public, you really can't turn around and say "Mind your own business", after the fact.

I agree with both posts... but it just goes to show you that people will believe anything that is reported.. If i was Knight I would have said I dont know all the facts to make a comment.

While Janet is wrong in this situation, I dont think she called Paris out her name.

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Reply #13 posted 07/27/12 10:17pm

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Now I'm not sure if this actually happened between Janet and Paris. I doubt either one called each other bitch. If Paris called her aunt that...then she's very much bringing shame to her father. No daughter of Michael Jackson should EVER talk that way to anyone, let alone family. neutral neutral

But I agree with Ms. Gladys...Paris Jackson needs discipline and structure. I could never speak like that to any family member...or even to friends of family. My family is Egyptian (North African) and demanded the highest respect from their children. My grandma is quick with a shoe. lol

I don't hear much about Prince or young Blanket, but hopefully no news means good news.

What a mess. confused

[Edited 7/27/12 22:09pm]

That's why you have so many young jailbirds today. No discipline and no respect for authority.

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WaterInYourBath said:

lazycrockett said:

From threads concerning this there is alot of orgers who seem to share Ms. Knights opinion.

That's not the case on that Katherine Jackson thread. lol Majority of those m.....posters, wish death on Ms. Knight now.

This thread will prove that some orgers on here think beating a child is not only okay but "teaches" respect.

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Reply #15 posted 07/27/12 10:19pm

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mjscarousal said:

Analyst said:

To be fair to Gladys, some members of the family who took to Twitter with private family business, made it public.

And when you put private issues before the public, you really can't turn around and say "Mind your own business", after the fact.

I agree with both posts... but it just goes to show you that people will believe anything that is reported.. If i was Knight I would have said I dont know all the facts to make a comment.

While Janet is wrong in this situation, I dont think she called Paris out her name.

Actually Paris was on Twitter slamming her uncle and plenty of people took screenshots of it and a few media outlets/gossip columnists reported/posted those pics.

So how does she not know enough to comment? The pics were right there, and they showed her mouthing off to her elder, which is what Knight spoke on. Do I agree with her saying her teeth should've been knocked out? No. But I do think Paris went too far and that some disciplining is in order there for sure.

And before people pop up spouting "Spanking is ABUSE", that's nonsense. It's all in how and why you do it. And I believe strongly in teaching kids boundaries and that there's real consequences to their actions. And it's better a parent do that then years from now, having the world spank your kid in one way or another, cuz I promise you, what it will do to them will be way worse than anything a loving parent would.

If she was my kid she have gotten a few ass-whippings in the last few days. lol

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mjscarousal said:

I agree with both posts... but it just goes to show you that people will believe anything that is reported.. If i was Knight I would have said I dont know all the facts to make a comment.

While Janet is wrong in this situation, I dont think she called Paris out her name.

Actually Paris was on Twitter slamming her uncle and plenty of people took screenshots of it and a few media outlets/gossip columnists reported/posted those pics.

So how does she not know enough to comment? The pics were right there, and they showed her mouthing off to her elder, which is what Knight spoke on. Do I agree with her saying her teeth should've been knocked out? No. But I do think Paris went too far and that some disciplining is in order there for sure.

And before people pop up spouting "Spanking is ABUSE", that's nonsense. It's all in how and why you do it. And I believe strongly in teaching kids boundaries and that there's real consequences to their actions. And it's better a parent do that then years from now, having the world spank your kid in one way or another, cuz I promise you, what it will do to them will be way worse than anything a loving parent would.

If she was my kid she have gotten a few ass-whippings in the last few days. lol

I don't believe in corporal punishment, but if she was my kid, the damn cell phone is the first thing she'll relinquish. Shut down all the public social media accounts. if she wants one, she gets one under a moniker and has a few close friends. No damn fans or trolls...

I wonder if she's ever been "grounded".

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WaterInYourBath said:

That's not the case on that Katherine Jackson thread. lol Majority of those m.....posters, wish death on Ms. Knight now.

This thread will prove that some orgers on here think beating a child is not only okay but "teaches" respect.

No it won't. Like I said, Ms. Knight's remark was not meant to be taken literally. "Wouldn't have any teeth" is a comical dysphemism.

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Reply #18 posted 07/27/12 10:48pm

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Analyst said:

Actually Paris was on Twitter slamming her uncle and plenty of people took screenshots of it and a few media outlets/gossip columnists reported/posted those pics.

So how does she not know enough to comment? The pics were right there, and they showed her mouthing off to her elder, which is what Knight spoke on. Do I agree with her saying her teeth should've been knocked out? No. But I do think Paris went too far and that some disciplining is in order there for sure.

And before people pop up spouting "Spanking is ABUSE", that's nonsense. It's all in how and why you do it. And I believe strongly in teaching kids boundaries and that there's real consequences to their actions. And it's better a parent do that then years from now, having the world spank your kid in one way or another, cuz I promise you, what it will do to them will be way worse than anything a loving parent would.

If she was my kid she have gotten a few ass-whippings in the last few days. lol

I don't believe in corporal punishment, but if she was my kid, the damn cell phone is the first thing she'll relinquish. Shut down all the public social media accounts. if she wants one, she gets one under a moniker and has a few close friends. No damn fans or trolls...

I wonder if she's ever been "grounded".

[Edited 7/27/12 22:24pm]

I believe in it, and I heartily endorse it, because my parents used it and we all turned out okay. There's definitely a right way to do it, and a wrong way. I don't think spankings are wrong period just because some people overdo it and for the wrong reasons.

And honestly, I don't see how much damage in terms of discipline, confiscating a cellphone alone, would do. Then again I'm not a teenager and didn't grow up with a cellphone during those years, so maybe I don't "get" how effective a punishment that can be on its own, I don't know. lol

...You know what? We have no way of knowing how MJ was disciplining his kids, obviously. But my wager is that he was a pretty soft disciplinarian. Am I saying he was a shitty parent? No, I don't believe he was. He was probably great when it comes to the more nurturing side of parenting - giving love and support. But I have a feeling that when it came time to put a foot down and draw a line in the sand, he was more the type to start handing out lollipops instead.

Editing to add that I agree that the Twitter accounts should be shut down. I never understood why his kids are on there in the first place, and especially, interacting with the MJ fan community? A high percentage of the fan community is extremely mentally unstable, there's no way in hell they should be on there interacting with them.

[Edited 7/27/12 22:51pm]

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

I don't believe in corporal punishment, but if she was my kid, the damn cell phone is the first thing she'll relinquish. Shut down all the public social media accounts. if she wants one, she gets one under a moniker and has a few close friends. No damn fans or trolls...

I wonder if she's ever been "grounded".

[Edited 7/27/12 22:24pm]

I believe in it, and I heartily endorse it, because my parents used it and we all turned out okay. There's definitely a right way to do it, and a wrong way. I don't think spankings are wrong period just because some people overdo it and for the wrong reasons.

And honestly, I don't see how much damage in terms of discipline, confiscating a cellphone alone, would do. Then again I'm not a teenager and didn't grow up with a cellphone during those years, so maybe I don't "get" how effective a punishment that can be on its own, I don't know. lol

...You know what? We have no way of knowing how MJ was disciplining his kids, obviously. But my wager is that he was a pretty soft disciplinarian. Am I saying he was a shitty parent? No, I don't believe he was. He was probably great when it comes to the more nurturing side of parenting - giving love and support. But I have a feeling that when it came time to put a foot down and draw a line in the sand, he was more the type to start handing out lollipops instead.

My mother never hit me...but she has a look that scared the living daylights out of me. And when she yelled at me...lawd..I regretted the day I was born. lol My dad...I love my dad so much that I used to be so sad if I ever did anything to upset him. That was enough never to make me do it again. He never raised his hand against me either.

Believe me, a cell phone is everything for kids nowadays. I too was raised in a time before phones...but yeah..taking it away from her is a big thing and she'd probably hate you for it. Taking away social media would also be very upsetting.

Replace that with some good ol' fashioned...wait for it....chores. Washing dishes, cleaning house, coming home at cerfew without question...that sorta thing. Volunteer work in the community is also a good option...

True that we don't know how Michael raised his babies. But one's thing for sure, he never raised his hand in anger at them. I do know that he was disciplinary with them, and didn't waver on his decisions. I remember reading of one time at some charity dinner (or something to that effect), Paris wanted some balloons that were used to decorate the place. Michael calmly explained to her that she couldn't have them because they were for charity. The girl began to cry, and his entourage immediately started rounding up the balloons to give them to her. But Michael put his foot down. He said plainly that she's his daughter and she has to learn she can't always get what she wants, and that she has to learn to share with others. I really admired him in that moment. He wasn't moved by his daughter's tears. That's the kind of discipline I expected from him. Gentle but firm.

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Editing to add that I agree that the Twitter accounts should be shut down. I never understood why his kids are on there in the first place, and especially, interacting with the MJ fan community? A high percentage of the fan community is extremely mentally unstable, there's no way in hell they should be on there interacting with them.

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Hit the nail right on the head, you did.

lol

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Reply #21 posted 07/27/12 11:08pm

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Identity said:

Four-times married old buzzard should stop prying into the affairs of others and take care of her own household.

Why am I posting on a thread that's certain to get locked tomorrow? razz

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[Edited 7/27/12 21:28pm]

To be fair to Gladys, some members of the family who took to Twitter with private family business, made it public.

And when you put private issues before the public, you really can't turn around and say "Mind your own business", after the fact.

<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p class="bqoa">babynoz said:</p><p>I respected my elders because they behaved in a respectable manner around me.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Yes, if I was disrespectful I would have to answer for it, however if my mom even so much as suspected that one of my elders was taking advantage of me they would have gotten the crap beat out them.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Now as for Gladys, she should get the story straight before commenting because I doubt that Janet or Paris either slapped or cursed at each other. I believe that was a bit of media hype.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You cannot just roll up on anybody's kids without warning and take them away from home with no authorization no matter who you are. Even in cases of divorce the non custodial parent MUST have the permission of the custodial parent to take their own damn kid somewhere.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If you want respect you have to go about things in the proper way.</p></blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

I find it incredibly wtf-ish that people are actually trying to condone this behavior.

In what world is is okay to disobey your aunt? And don't hand me that "Janet just came over and tried to grab them", because it wasn't just Janet and they were all informed of where their grandmother was and how they were being given an opportunity to go see her themselves.

And yeah - when you're a minor and you're online telling private info that involves your family, most adult members are going to try and confiscate your phone because you fucked up.

It's just incredibly weird to me how Michael Jackson fans will try and excuse literally anything, even things that in any other circumstance, they know is wrong, just because it has something to do with Michael or his kids.

Let's call a spade a spade, here - she was being disrespectful as hell and it was out of line, and nothing Janet did was uncalled for or abusive in any way. Hell, if it was me they'd have gotten footage of me running after her with a belt and giving her the Ass-whooping of Life; she got off easy when one of the brothers jumped in and held Janet back lol .

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Since you seem to be new here I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but a few things need to be straightened out.

First, STOP CALLING ME A "MICHAEL JACKSON FAN!" I have stated repeatedly over the years on this forum that I was a Jackson Five fan back in the day and have only been a casual fan of ANY Jackson since then so please stop with the MJ fan bs.

Secondly, you cannot have a discussion by leaving out pertinent facts such as the correct timeline. You refuse to acknowledge what took place BEFORE the child tweeted anything at all. What happened FIRST was the matter of a strongly worded letter that was released. Who released the letter? Not Paris, right?

Third, the letter suggests that Ms. Katherine was recently in ill health, something the child knew nothing about. Furthermore, she cannot ask Ms. Katherine about said letter because she is not available for some reason. She gets scared, then angry. She does what kids do...she acts out.

Forth, what do the ADULTS do in this situation? Nothing for days, then they turn up at the house angry and unnanounced, trying to remove the kids from the house. I don't know about your kids but mine were not allowed to leave the house with ANYBODY without my permission, period...not even their own father once we separated.

Fifth, stop pretending that all of the Jacksons are on board with this. Marlon is not, Jackie is not, Tito recanted and even LaToya didn't co-sign this...are they "fans" too?

Sixth, if you had bothered to read my other posts, I clearly state that my observations are not based solely on recent developments, but also take into consideration documented past behaviors, (particularly of Jermaine and Randy) that I consider shady.

Finally, I don't recall condoning anything that has been done by either side and I most certainly haven't lambasted other people just because they don't agree with my POV. I have agreed to disagree and not you or anyone else is going to browbeat me into submission. I don't approve of disrespectful children any more than I approve of adults who exhibit poor judgement but I will certainly give a scared child more understanding even if she might be spoiled.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #22 posted 07/27/12 11:23pm

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MJ never beat his children, so any of his relatives have no right to beat them. It's simple and obvious. Although Paris - a complicated and spoiled child.
PS I am against excessive physical violence used against children, especially teenagers. a "knock your teeth" - is generally sadism. I do not know what a person can adequately support such "education". I feel sorry for their children. confused

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Reply #23 posted 07/27/12 11:54pm

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Now I'm not sure if this actually happened between Janet and Paris. I doubt either one called each other bitch. If Paris called her aunt that...then she's very much bringing shame to her father. No daughter of Michael Jackson should EVER talk that way to anyone, let alone family. neutral neutral

But I agree with Ms. Gladys...Paris Jackson needs discipline and structure. I could never speak like that to any family member...or even to friends of family. My family is Egyptian (North African) and demanded the highest respect from their children. My grandma is quick with a shoe. lol

I don't hear much about Prince or young Blanket, but hopefully no news means good news.

What a mess. confused

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I doubt that the exchange ever happened in the first place and I realize that Gladys was using a euphemism when she said what she said but she was under the impression that the exchange did happen.

You are totally correct that children need structure and discipline but it has to be consistent. Imagine that you're fourteen and have recently lost the only parent you ever knew? Turmoil is the last thing you need in that situation, but no one bothers to tell you that grandma may not be well. Instead, you happen to find out from some letter leaked online.

Grandma is the only guardian, the only structure and the only caregiver in your life since you dad died in a very public and traumatic way...maybe, just maybe that would frighten you, perhaps to the point where you do something the adults consider out of line...which is make your fears public.

I think that the judge was wise to order an investigation in this case. The children are reacting to the dysfunction of the adults on all sides of the matter and it needs to be sorted out.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #24 posted 07/28/12 12:00am

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This goes to show the culture difference. A Black child that would have called her Aunti a "bitch" would be on life support.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...out-teeth/

I agree with Ms. Knight whole-heartedly.

Damn, black people can't we get this story correct? The media said that Janet SLAPPED Paris and then said that Paris called Janet a "bitch". Neither of these things happened. Paris said that Janet did NOT slap her and that she did not cuss Janet out.

How the fuck can people still be so stupid over this shit? Neither of these things happened. Btw, how the hell is Gladys going to talk about "knocking someone's teeth out" when her OWN son was taken from her at one time? Btw, all of this talk from some blackl acting as if this is the way it is in our culture, is some "country ass" shit. Not ALL black people believe in that kind of thing. I am a STERN believer in discipline. My parents were also, and not one damn time were my kids teeth knocked out or were my siblings and I "teeth knocked out". So, don't act as if all of us believe in that mentality, in order to discipline our children. The bottomline is that people need to get the FACTS before they run off talking about shit they know fuck about.

Btw, Janet had no damn business running up in Paris face(as the surveillance video showed) and trying to block her from going into her house and THEN trying to snatch her cell phone. Do you people know of ANY 14 year-old who would let someone just run up in their face and try to block them from going in their OWN house and then snatch the cell phone- aunt or no aunt. Especially when that aunt is a liar and trying to stop that child from asking about her grandparent and trying to stop that child from exposing her and the rest of the Jacksons in a LIE. You can bet that even Janet at 14 wouldn't have allowed someone to do that to her in the same situation. This hypocrisy from some black people who endorse what happened is a sad reflection on our race.

Janet looked like a freaking BULLY as she and Randy ran up on these kids as they were returning from school. On top of that, Janet stuck HER phone in Paris face and began trying to provoke her by taking photos. Paris was the one acting mature by TRYING to ignore Janet and walk past her. Janet continued to follow Paris and take Photos. Randy even pulled Janet away from Paris as then both Randy and Janet were taking photos on their cell phones like two middle-school bullies.

What's even sadder for people like Gladys Knight and other Jackson Family defenders is that you/they are too damn ignorant to actually look at the FACTS. The FACTS are right there on the video and still you have idiots spewing lies. I can tell you this: If Janet had run upon my child and did what she did to Paris, then Janet wouldn't have any teeth. Respect is earned and Janet did NOT deserve any respect for what she did. Gladys Knight is one of those ignorant people, I don't give a fuck if she is a legend, who needs to STFU until she knows the facts. Btw, I would have no problem telling her or anyone else that to their face. Its' patheitc how SOME black people are turning this into a RACE thing, when it has shit to do with that. Paris Jackson is BLACK. Her Dad, Michael Jackson was black and her mother, Debbie Rowe is white. If the daddy is black, a child is considered black. I don't give a fuck how she looks, she is black. Just like Rashida Jones, Quincy Jones' daughter looks as white as Paris; however, Rashida is BLACK because Quincy is black. It doesn't matter that Rashida Jones mother, Peggy Lipton is white.

Black people need to get over this race shit concerning this situation. The Jacksons-Janet, Rebbie, Jermaine and Randy are responsible for EVERYTHING that has happened and they are BLACK, also. Black people stop the fuckery! All of us don't subscribe to that ignorant bullshit!!!

Finally, according to Katherine Jackson herself she has said in EVERY interview that Michael's kids are very well-mannered, smart and all-around GOOD KIDS! Are you black people who are defending Janet's actions saying that Katherine is a LIAR? Michael's kids don't need discipline. They are already disciplined because that's the way that Michael raised them. Michael did all the work, Katherine is just their guardian/grandmother. You people act as if these children are little toddlers and Katherine has to do all of the "raising". Her job is to be there for them, love them, guide them.

Damn, I am disappointed in some my people (Thank God, it is not all of us) who are doing everything to dismiss what the Jacksons have caused and trying to blame a child, just because some of you don't feel that she is black. The ignorance is stifling.Wake the fuck up!

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Reply #25 posted 07/28/12 12:13am

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^ Oh stop it. You know she wasn't being literal. That's how the old timers talk when it comes to disciplining children.

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Reply #26 posted 07/28/12 12:21am

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I love Gladys, but she's the one who is wrong. Aunt or no, if you walk in my house with disrespect towards me then it's coming right back to you.

On the racial/cultural aspect: Not all Black families will approve of someone who slaps a child in the face. That is more a family by family call that spans all races.
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Reply #27 posted 07/28/12 12:30am

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musicjunky318 said:

^ Oh stop it. You know she wasn't being literal. That's how the old timers talk when it comes to disciplining children.

Of course, I knw that she was speaking figuratively, and not literally. However, it's the context in which she said it and the REASON that she said it. Her REASON was not valid. Gladys spoke on something that she didn't have the FACTS. Therefore, she should have kept her old ass mouth closed. There is no excuse for what she said when it had also been reported that Paris did NOT cuss Janet out and that Janet did NOT slap Paris. The sad thing is that you have black people agreeing with her because they are also too lazy to know the facts.

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Reply #28 posted 07/28/12 1:00am

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Free2BMe said:

musicjunky318 said:

^ Oh stop it. You know she wasn't being literal. That's how the old timers talk when it comes to disciplining children.

Of course, I knw that she was speaking figuratively, and not literally. However, it's the context in which she said it and the REASON that she said it. Her REASON was not valid. Gladys spoke on something that she didn't have the FACTS. Therefore, she should have kept her old ass mouth closed. There is no excuse for what she said when it had also been reported that Paris did NOT cuss Janet out and that Janet did NOT slap Paris. The sad thing is that you have black people agreeing with her because they are also too lazy to know the facts.

Ok hun. Just making sure.

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Reply #29 posted 07/28/12 1:01am

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And yea. Randy, Janet, Rebbie, & Jermaine are cleary in the wrong. And anyone that can't see that is a delusional, annoying ass stan.

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