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Is Black music being devalued by Mixtapes and giveaways?

The Free Mixtape/Street Album phenomena is killing the revenue flow in the Hip-Hop game. Artists are not getting paid, producers are not getting paid, etc.. I say, leave the MULTIPLE Mixtapes for the DJs, and the rappers should go back to giving out singles and samplers and creating quality EPs or Albums that they can market and sell.

Rappers have trained their audience to expect free music all of the time with the multiple releases of Free Street Albums…CRAZY!

Stop painting rap fans with a broad brush. Not every rap fan wants free throwaway music. Rap fans are not demanding this free clutter music; it’s being shoved on them. Many aspiring Rock & Roll, Pop, Country and R&B artists are building solid fanbases without giving away free albums. Rappers Take Note!

You can put out a free single or sampler, and still spark a lot of interest in your brand. Who told you that you MUST put out a FREE Street Album/mixtape?

Your fans must either want to be you or believe you. You must know your target market, and your music has to resonate with them. As an Artist, you must understand that your Fans don’t just buy your music; they buy your Lifestyle, your Brand, and your Movement as well.

You don’t have to keep putting out multiple free street album/mixtapes of original music to attract fans. You can release other free content from your brand like music videos, freestyles, video diaries, audio from radio interviews, video from concert performances, etc. Nowadays, it’s no longer just about selling CDs. It’s about selling or providing “Content” and conveying the mission of your Brand and your movement.

Try something different to build a fanbase. Look into the possibility of producing and starring in your own short films or long version music videos, and add your music as the score. Think outside of your circumference.

Give away a single or a sampler to attract fans, and then get them excited about buying a full length album or EP from you. Give them something to look forward to. When rappers constantly give away whole street albums of original music right out of the gate, it’s like a woman giving up everything on the first date. There is no momentum, no excitement, and no build up to what comes next – because she gave up everything on the first date. And it’s the same with artists.

Many upcoming rappers take the mystique and excitement out of their brand by giving away everything up front in the form of FREE Street Albums.

At least 70 percent of the independent rappers who put out multiple FREE Street Albums last year did not make a dime from their endeavors. FACT!

The crazy thing is that my next door neighbor’s 10-year-old daughter made more money selling lemonade last summer than many unsigned rappers made all year from their music endeavors – which included Free Mixtapes and Showcase performances. The little girl gave out samples, she advertised, did a raffle, and then she sold lots of lemonade drinks and ices. (Apply basic business principles to your music projects and watch your revenue grow by three-fold.)

The game plan for most unsigned rappers consists of giving away Free Street Album/Mixtapes and paying to be in showcases. And that’s it.

The average rapper spends $1,500 to put out his Free Mixtape/Street Album.. Who’s getting paid off of your FREE MIXTAPE/STREET ALBUM? LET’S SEE (Count With Me): The Studio, the engineer, the graphic designer for the cover, the CD manufacturer, perhaps the DJ you paid to host it, and perhaps the producers of the original tracks, the mixtape marketing company, and Datpiff or any other mixtape website that posts your mixtape in order to draw traffic to their site with the expectation of selling ads based on that traffic, etc.

I know an unsigned rapper who paid $2,500 to a well-known DJ to host the rapper’s FREE mixtape/street album. And the DJ didn’t even promote it. Next, the rapper spent $1,500 to get a collaboration on a song with a popular upcoming MC that went on the FREE mixtape/street album. Then, the rapper paid the studio and engineer to record and mix the FREE mixtape/street album, and he paid a graphic designer to design the cover. Then, the rapper spent $500 duplicating the CDs. And finally, the rapper paid $1,500 to a mixtape marketing company to promote the Free mixtape/street album.

At the end of the day, this rapper spent close to $7,000 on a Mixtape/Street album that he gave away for free. He got 12,500 downloads at the end of the day. Was it worth it? I say NO! Most independent rappers are just following Lil Wayne and Drake, and have no idea what they are doing.

Equally important, when you put a Free mixtape/street album on any mixtape site and generate thousands of downloads, do you know the demographics (Sex, Race or Age) of those downloading your mixtape? NO! Can you obtain the email addresses of those downloading your mixtape? NO! Do you know the location of those downloading your mixtape? NO! On these mixtape sites, you don’t receive any real stats, and thus, you don’t know who your potential consumers are. The only thing that you are doing is making money for the mixtape site. They use the traffic you draw to their site to sell advertisements.

RAPPERS WAKE UP! For many rappers, these Free Mixtape/street albums are just vanity projects and an expensive hobby. And many spend little money advertising the mixtape releases. Most rappers put out multiple free mixtape/street albums just to stroke their ego, but they have no understanding that, in many cases, they’re just throwing away money and cluttering up the already saturated Mixtape market.

And, some rappers are even going as far as to buy Mixtape Site downloads and manufactured stats.

Fake Downloads On Mixtape Site X + Fake Views On YouTube + Fake Followers On Twitter + Fake Fans On Facebook = FAKE MOVEMENT.

Just about every independent rapper has a FREE Street Album/Mixtape cluttering the market place. Try Something Different. Be Unique. Stand Out

It would make more sense to put the mixtape on your own website and draw traffic there. You can set it up so that people must enter a name and an e-mail in order to download it. Also, you can put a traffic tracker on your own website, and gather analytic demographic data of the unique visitors who visit your site. Moreover, you can also sell advertisements, bonus singles, merchandise, etc. on your own site, based on the traffic you draw there.

The bottom line is that many rappers are just following a trend. Instead of having a plan, most indie artists just make music, and put it out like they’re throwing darts against the wall hoping to get lucky.

If Lil Wayne comes out tomorrow and states that the Mixtape game is dead and he will no longer deal with it, then watch how many rappers follow his lead…SMH.

What worked for Lil Wayne, Drake and Wiz Khalifa as it relates to giving away Free Street Album/Mixtapes of original music will not work for every indie rapper out there.

Furthermore, if Rap Music Songwriters and producers understood the importance of publishing revenue and copyright ownership, they would not be giving their original music away for free so easily. Your music catalogue is an ASSET, and it has revenue generating potential. I can understand giving out free samplers or free singles. But CONSTANTLY giving away whole street albums of original music to try to build a fanbase doesn’t make sense.

ATTENTION INDEPENDENT ARTISTS: Are you receiving publishing Checks? Do you sell merchandise? Do you sell digital downloads? Are you getting paid from shows? Have you generated revenue by licensing your music? Have you obtained funds from Endorsements or Sponsorships? Do you get paid from doing features? Who is your target market? What is your distribution network?

Do you have a marketing plan and budget in place? Do you keep track of money you spend and money you take in regarding your music? Do you pay taxes based on income generated from your musical endeavors? How much did you earn last year from your music endeavors? How much do you expect to earn this year? How much did you invest in Promotion last year? How much do you plan to invest in promotion this year?

One hit single can generate millions for an artist via digital sales, publishing, paid shows, endorsements, ring tones, etc.

It is very important that every aspiring artist and producer know and learn the multiple revenue streams in the music business. Some of the Music Biz Revenue Streams include CD Sales, Digital Download Sales, Merchandising Sales, Tour Income, Licensing Revenue, Publishing Income, Ringtone Revenue, Endorsement Deals, and Sponsorship Revenue.

The key is to ATTRACT the masses to your music. Convert folks into fans and capture them by being unconventional. As an artist, you have to get out there and meet with the people, engage your supporters, hand out flyers, T-Shirts etc..

Don’t be a backwards hustler. What dude you know in the streets who gives away all of his product and is able to grow in the streets?

Big corporations give away free SAMPLES to attract buyers, but they also invest in advertising and marketing to sell the products as well.

PepsiCo is boosting its overall marketing budget this year by as much as $600 million. SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES INVEST IN PROMOTION. FACT!!

If you believe that nobody buys music anymore, then you’ve already lost. You’re just basically stating that you’re music career is a hobby.

There’s a big difference between FREE music and GOOD music, and some rappers confuse the two. Most Rap fans don’t want FREE music. They want GOOD music that appeals to their emotions. And they will pay for it if it’s marketed right.

Forget about putting out three (3) mediocre FREE mixtapes in a row, and concentrate on creating one (1) CLASSIC ALBUM that you can market and sell.

The music business is NOT the LOTTERY. That “Dollar and a Dream” mentality will not cut it. Get a Budget! Get a Plan! And, Get To Work! Do Remixes, Do Music Videos, Do Video Logs, Do Contests, Do Shows, Do Interviews, Get your own Merchandise, Connect with DJs and your fans.

There are millions of aspiring artists and producers. So how do you expect to STAND OUT if you look, talk and sound just like everyone else?

The music game is all “Smoke and Mirrors.” Don’t get caught up in the illusion and slight of hand. Study and learn the biz for yourself.

MONETIZE YOUR MOVEMENT AND MAKE YOUR MOVEMENTS MAKE SENSE.

Contributor Jesse Atkinson is CEO of Urban Threshold Inc. and founder of the Underground Music Awards and The A&R Power Summit.

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Reply #1 posted 07/20/12 7:27pm

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I think it's more important for a rapper to do this than any other type of genre artist.

Think about most of thes rappers making a name for them self on the streets. E-40 and Master P were slangin their early albums out the trunk of theyr deville's in the late 80s and early 90s until they found a following.

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Reply #2 posted 07/20/12 8:21pm

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it's what's on the mixtape that devalues it.

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Reply #3 posted 07/20/12 9:32pm

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Mixtapes are a wonderful thing.

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Reply #4 posted 07/20/12 9:43pm

aardvark15

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Mixtapes are a wonderful thing.


nod Look at Frank Ocean
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Reply #5 posted 07/21/12 6:00am

Identity

Were it not for mixtapes and free downloads, I'd be unaware of the richness of untapped talent and creative ability throughout the industry,

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Reply #6 posted 07/21/12 7:27am

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Were it not for mixtapes and free downloads, I'd be unaware of the richness of untapped talent and creative ability throughout the industry,

Agree. I dont think it devalues black music. It exactly enhances it because it allows the public to be expose to other forms and types of music that is not popular.

How are people going to know about other types of music or artists if people dont give away their music or do mixtapes?

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Reply #7 posted 07/21/12 10:00am

Harlepolis

But,,,,

"Music should be free"

Right? confuse

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Reply #8 posted 07/21/12 1:43pm

JamesStarJr

Well one of the problems is with out a major dropping heavy cash its hard to market and promote hiphop other genres build there base mainly off of live shows and venues parties etc things that really intimatley connect you to you audience, until recently with the down turn in music hip hops biggest artist rarely toured, the roots have a fan base that is as loyal as say a rollling stone or aerosmith fan because they tour like 280 days out of the year, its hard work but it perfects the craft and builds new fans.

Hip hop has become so plasitc and throwaway because the execs keep pushing ageism, over quality thinking that only 10 to 25 year olds listen to hip hop which aint true, if the older where allowed to just do them instead being forced to conform to trends to popular the genre woudl be in a better place no one ever tells elton john or paul mccartney or smokie robinson their too old to put out albums you only see that in hiphop.

I could go on forever but yes hip hop and the artist in it have devalued the genre and its super sad.

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Reply #9 posted 07/21/12 1:57pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

I think it's more important for a rapper to do this than any other type of genre artist.

Think about most of thes rappers making a name for them self on the streets. E-40 and Master P were slangin their early albums out the trunk of theyr deville's in the late 80s and early 90s until they found a following.

They where selllin them though, BIG difference.

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Reply #10 posted 07/21/12 2:58pm

AsherFierce

Thang is even if rappers done what that dude suggested.... I'd download it for free anyway. evillol

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Reply #11 posted 07/21/12 3:00pm

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JamesStarJr said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I think it's more important for a rapper to do this than any other type of genre artist.

Think about most of thes rappers making a name for them self on the streets. E-40 and Master P were slangin their early albums out the trunk of theyr deville's in the late 80s and early 90s until they found a following.

They where selllin them though, BIG difference.

The Mixtape world didn't exist back then though. But it was the same thing. Tryin to get their name out.

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Reply #12 posted 07/21/12 3:58pm

SavonOsco

Mixtapes are essential in putting your talents out there...If you have real talent, you have hot songs stacked up for an actual release..

You have to put out bait, if you want the fish to bite....

Mixtapes been around for years and are basically the equivalent to people performing on YouTube .. Promotion of self
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Reply #13 posted 07/21/12 5:47pm

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I think the only downside is the mixtapes are usually better than the album.

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Reply #14 posted 07/21/12 5:52pm

Timmy84

Nah.


Mixtapes been around since the '80s...

If anything, it helps some get record deals, and for those who don't want a deal, money especially if someone pays for it if they sell the album either at the back of their trunks or at their own stores (like Screwzoo and 'em).

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Reply #15 posted 07/21/12 6:55pm

SavonOsco

Also from the other point of view, industry folks don't have to travel to find new talent..Internet changed that...

They go on DatPiff,Bandcamp,YouTube,SoundCloud etc and search..if they get a scoop... Finding unsigned artist on these mixtapes are standard now...

I think the OP is trying to say unsigned artist should sell the music instead...I say get a CD Baby account and maximize both
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Reply #16 posted 07/21/12 8:12pm

Timmy84

SavonOsco said:

Also from the other point of view, industry folks don't have to travel to find new talent..Internet changed that... They go on DatPiff,Bandcamp,YouTube,SoundCloud etc and search..if they get a scoop... Finding unsigned artist on these mixtapes are standard now... I think the OP is trying to say unsigned artist should sell the music instead...I say get a CD Baby account and maximize both

That's what "unsigned artists" do on Bandcamp. nod

[Edited 7/21/12 20:12pm]

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Reply #17 posted 07/22/12 6:37am

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Timmy84 said:

SavonOsco said:

Also from the other point of view, industry folks don't have to travel to find new talent..Internet changed that... They go on DatPiff,Bandcamp,YouTube,SoundCloud etc and search..if they get a scoop... Finding unsigned artist on these mixtapes are standard now... I think the OP is trying to say unsigned artist should sell the music instead...I say get a CD Baby account and maximize both

That's what "unsigned artists" do on Bandcamp. nod

[Edited 7/21/12 20:12pm]

thing is that more real RB artists are actually doing mixtapes because labels are not signing them or at least backing them. Artists like Amerie Tearria Mari Teedra Moses etc...do tons of mixtapes cause the only so called rb female the world likes is Rihanna/Beyonce


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #18 posted 07/22/12 8:47am

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I have absolutely no idea what y'all are talking about in this thread. It's like reading a foreign language. I don't see anything even remotely related to what I consider a mixtape. lol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #19 posted 07/22/12 11:47am

SavonOsco

vainandy said:

I have absolutely no idea what y'all are talking about in this thread. It's like reading a foreign language. I don't see anything even remotely related to what I consider a mixtape. lol



If you want we could say the word hiphop, so you can change it to shithop and then go on your standard "Shit hop ruined all life as we know it" rant.. Which usually destroys the thread as we know instead...

Is that more your language?...lol

Carry on
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Reply #20 posted 07/22/12 11:53am

SavonOsco

Timmy84 said:



SavonOsco said:


Also from the other point of view, industry folks don't have to travel to find new talent..Internet changed that... They go on DatPiff,Bandcamp,YouTube,SoundCloud etc and search..if they get a scoop... Finding unsigned artist on these mixtapes are standard now... I think the OP is trying to say unsigned artist should sell the music instead...I say get a CD Baby account and maximize both

That's what "unsigned artists" do on Bandcamp. nod

[Edited 7/21/12 20:12pm]



The talent on Bandcamp is ridiculous...no need to listen to the radio when you can go there and some other sites wink
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Reply #21 posted 07/22/12 11:57am

Timmy84

SavonOsco said:

Timmy84 said:

That's what "unsigned artists" do on Bandcamp. nod

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The talent on Bandcamp is ridiculous...no need to listen to the radio when you can go there and some other sites wink

Yes! lol nod

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