mjscarousal said:

lowkey said:

how is the letter phoney when the family aknowledged that it was legit? janet retweeted her brother's statement so i dont see her backing off from it. she's not commenting on this lastest nonsense because thats what it is nonsense, maybe janet feels she dont need to respond to reports her and her siblings kidnapped their mother.imo the only blinded stans are mj fans, he is gone so none of this can ever affect him, but the fans have so much bitterness and resentment towards his surviving family members that you all will jump to the defense of anybody that is against them.im still waiting for one of you to explain how writing that letter would somehow help them get mikes money. if its proved that the dudes currently running the estate are in deed shady the money wouldnt then be turned over to randy or jermaine, they actually have nothing to do with the money. their mother is part of the estate and they dont feel like the men in control is doing right by her so if they wanna ask them to step down so what, it has nothing to do with the fans.why would janet need to read an autopsy report to know that her brother had a problem? if a crackhead gets ran over by a car thats what killed him, it still dont change the fact that he was a crackhead.

You are DELUSIONAL and IGNORANT

Why would I be bitter about people I dont even know? Im just giving my opinion based on the past history and current behavior of the family. Im tired of Michaels crazy family exploiting him and trying to use him for money. And sorry Im not kissing their ass just because their his family, I dont give a fuck. Its not right what they are doing.

If Janet cared so much, why didnt she tell Paris or the children where Katherine was? If she retweeted what Jermaine said that means she must know where she is if she is in bad health. WHY NOT TELL THE CHIDREN?

Janet made false statements regarding how Michael died. That analogy is not the same in this case. She talked as if she knew what drugs were in his system which was false. Michael did not die for prescription medication. And the AUTOSPY SHOWED THAT. There was only ONE drug that killed him even though there was other anethesia drugs found in his system. There was no prescription drugs. So Yes I have issue with her spreading lies about Michael insinuating he was a drug addict when he wasnt. He passed away because of PROPOFOL and its funny you delusional detractors will constantly use anything and everything to trash Michael when the thread is not about Michael

STAY PRESSED

we are talking about whats going on right now and you all keep bringing up all these terrible things they have done to mike in the past. how do you know paris didnt already know where her grandma was? she didnt say she was missing until trent said it. sorry but mike was indeed a drug addict, even though janet never actually said that. i dont care if there was only one drug that killed him, the fact that he had a doctor in his house hooking him up on drugs is enough for me.admitting he had a drug problem is not trashing him, the problem with some of you is that you feel admitting that fact will somehow tarnish the perfect image you have of him.mike was a man with flaws like every other human being, its sad that he was surrounded by denial and it eventually led to his death. im typing to you very calm and respectful, how am i pressed?

[Edited 7/23/12 13:12pm]

I think it's time for the Jackson brothers to focus on their tour,and leave Katherine,the children and their money alone.Weren't they just talking about a permanent residency gig in Vegas? They should try to get a deal for THAT.Focus on that!!

ASoulAlive said:

mookie said:

kibbles said:

they will never, and that's why they're sooooo stupid.

if this will was invalidated, supposedly there is a previous will, the only difference being that "blanket" is not included b/c he hadn't been born. mj STILL left his fortune to his kids and charities mainly, with a provision for katherine's care. they better hope that all of mj's wills are good b/c if the judge invalidates them, under intestate succession, EVERYTHING would go to the kids. everything. no katherine, no charities, and certainly no siblings.

moreover, if they think they're going to get the execs off, they're wrong. the judge has been complimentary of the job they've done, it's been publicized all over the web how much money this estate has brought in, so much so that probate will likely be closed soon. if they think the execs are going to go without a fight, they could not be more wrong. if they think the judge would turn over this massive estate to a bunch of idiots, they could not be more wrong.

Exactly. That's why this whole thing with them and executors just comes across like those Road Runner/ Wile E. Coyoyte cartoons. All their schemes are just so goofy and obvious. No way in hell are these clowns going to top those men, so why not give up all this scheming? All it's doing is making the family look bad as usual.

Are their egos just that big that they can't believe MJ didn't leave their leechy behinds anything?

The family stans can't defend their actiosn all they want, but we all know never would you see other famous families act like The Jacksons have.

in a word, yes. that's the only possible explanation for this behavior. EVERYONE (except the few lone holdouts posting here) can see that the execs have managed this estate well.

it will be interesting to hear what their 'evidence' is regarding the estate's alleged mismanagement. are they going to point to the 'michael' cd? what about everything else? i don't expect them to be perfect, considering the abrupt nature of mj's death, the state of affairs of his estate at that time, not to mention dealing with this "family". but you can't deny the successes outweight the failures.

SoulAlive said:

I think it's time for the Jackson brothers to focus on their tour,and leave Katherine,the children and their money alone.Weren't they just talking about a permanent residency gig in Vegas? They should try to get a deal for THAT.Focus on that!!

Hello and good evenin' . Most rational post I've read in the entire thread.

I think Diana Ross MJ's second choice should be appointed over the estate.Paris(although very beautiful) seems very bratty to me. Its the reason I think she was bullied in school. Diana wouldn't have it. She would straiten her out & the dysfunctional Jacksons(Janet omited)...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I think Diana Ross MJ's second choice should be appointed over the estate.Paris(although very beautiful) seems very bratty to me. Its the reason I think she was bullied in school. Diana wouldn't have it. She would straiten her out & the dysfunctional Jacksons(Janet omited)...

you really think diana want this headache? she raised her kids already she dont want these kids , could see the mj fan community now counting diana's money ,accusing tracee and them of using his kids,doing a background check on all the people diana associate with. they need to put them mask back on them and put em back in their lil boxes

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Why do you have to be disrespectful towards Michael at least have some respect when you say your comments you dont have to be nasty

This:

Azz said:

Particulary Janet. Because you are scared of what they have accomplished, and that they are still alive. Still alive to make records, movies and accomplish goals. And that they are around to enjoy them.

[Edited 7/23/12 10:33am]

Is very uncalled for....

The letter is phoney because the Estate have been doing their job and un keeping Michaels legacy UNLIKE them who constantly have exploited their children for money and to plot to get more money because they are not in the will. I still stand by Katherines mention in the letter. Katherines own doctor said she was fine and was in good health.

Is producing an album of extremely low quality with fake MJ vocals part of their job?

They earn $2 million a month, whilst Katherine has a $30,000 a month. Is this fair to you?

If katherine wanted to ring, she would have rang. Janet is not the gaurdian of those kids, she shouldn't have to ring. It's not her responsibility. Especially not to a spoilt little brat, who enjoys screaming and crying for attention.

[Edited 7/23/12 13:04pm]

That is the portion that MICHAEL DIVIDED FOR KATHERINE in the will, that is all she is eligible to get. She doesnt need anymore to live off of herself. The rest of the money goes toward the children and charities. That is not the Estates doing and not only that they upgraded her allowance MORE than what had been stated in the will.

I already expressed my thoughts on the whole Michael album fiasco. No I didnt like that project but that has been the ONLY thing the Estate has done since Michaels passing that should be frowned upon. They have done alot of good things upholding his legacy, This Is It, Wii Experience, Invision etc.

The Jacksons have done nothing but exploited his children, done a bunch of gossip interviews and made countless lies regarding Michael.

It doesnt matter if Janet is not the guardian. She is STILL the aunt and if she knows about Katherines whereabouts knowing that the children are concerned than she should TELL THEM. This has nothing to do with raising or playing a parent role. As an aunt she should have done that, this is more important than speaking about an acting role. Janet doesnt do shit behind the scenes, all that shit is for T.V.

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

Is producing an album of extremely low quality with fake MJ vocals part of their job?

They earn $2 million a month, whilst Katherine has a $30,000 a month. Is this fair to you?

If katherine wanted to ring, she would have rang. Janet is not the gaurdian of those kids, she shouldn't have to ring. It's not her responsibility. Especially not to a spoilt little brat, who enjoys screaming and crying for attention.

[Edited 7/23/12 13:04pm]

That is the portion that MICHAEL DIVIDED FOR KATHERINE in the will, that is all she is eligible to get. She doesnt need anymore to live off of herself. The rest of the money goes toward the children and charities. That is not the Estates doing and not only that they upgraded her allowance MORE than what had been stated in the will.

I already expressed my thoughts on the whole Michael album fiasco. No I didnt like that project but that has been the ONLY thing the Estate has done since Michaels passing that should be frowned upon. They have done alot of good things upholding his legacy, This Is It, Wii Experience, Invision etc.

The Jacksons have done nothing but exploited his children, done a bunch of gossip interviews and made countless lies regarding Michael.

It doesnt matter if Janet is not the guardian. She is STILL the aunt and if she knows about Katherines whereabouts knowing that the children are concerned than she should TELL THEM. This has nothing to do with raising or playing a parent role. As an aunt she should have done that, this is more important than speaking about an acting role. Janet doesnt do shit behind the scenes, all that shit is for T.V.

She's not going to go against her mothers wishes. Blood is thicker than water. She might have not even known of Paris' attention seeking distress. After all, she is Paris.

Stop trying to lay blame on others, and just blame Katherine. It's obvious. And besides, you've done it before - you judged her for letting the kids go on Oprah. Just another example of MJ fans' self righteousness

[Edited 7/23/12 14:10pm]

mookie said:

kibbles said:

they will never, and that's why they're sooooo stupid.

if this will was invalidated, supposedly there is a previous will, the only difference being that "blanket" is not included b/c he hadn't been born. mj STILL left his fortune to his kids and charities mainly, with a provision for katherine's care. they better hope that all of mj's wills are good b/c if the judge invalidates them, under intestate succession, EVERYTHING would go to the kids. everything. no katherine, no charities, and certainly no siblings.

moreover, if they think they're going to get the execs off, they're wrong. the judge has been complimentary of the job they've done, it's been publicized all over the web how much money this estate has brought in, so much so that probate will likely be closed soon. if they think the execs are going to go without a fight, they could not be more wrong. if they think the judge would turn over this massive estate to a bunch of idiots, they could not be more wrong.

Exactly. That's why this whole thing with them and executors just comes across like those Road Runner/ Wile E. Coyoyte cartoons. All their schemes are just so goofy and obvious. No way in hell are these clowns going to top those men, so why not give up all this scheming? All it's doing is making the family look bad as usual.

Are their egos just that big that they can't believe MJ didn't leave their leechy behinds anything?

The family stans can't defend their actiosn all they want, but we all know never would you see other famous families act like The Jacksons have.

Exactly. You are right on point!

KATHERINE JACKSON
At Arizona Spa ... BUT
Why Abandon MJ's Kids?

EXCLUSIVE

Katherine Jackson is at a fancy spa in Tucson, Arizona, but the big question now ... why did she effectively abandon Michael Jackson's 3 kids?

Sources tell us ... Michael Jackson's siblings took Katherine from the family compound in Encino, CA to the Arizona spa, because they feel "the house is utter chaos" and Katherine is exhausted.

Here's the mystery ... Paris and presumably the other 2 kids were never told Katherine was leaving and it's been a week since they've seen her. So why would Michael's brothers and sisters yank Katherine from the home when she is the only parental link to the 3 kids who are still coping with their father's death?

Sources familiar with the situation tell us ... there's a "concerted effort" to get Katherine on board to challenge Michael Jackson's will and get the Executors removed. In addition to Randy and Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet are also on board, although it's unclear exactly how much Jackie supports the move.

Good to see the delusional Jackson family stans are only a minority. Most of the world gets it and can see right through the Jermaine and them's shady, dishonest and deperate attempts.

[Edited 7/23/12 14:11pm]

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

That is the portion that MICHAEL DIVIDED FOR KATHERINE in the will, that is all she is eligible to get. She doesnt need anymore to live off of herself. The rest of the money goes toward the children and charities. That is not the Estates doing and not only that they upgraded her allowance MORE than what had been stated in the will.

I already expressed my thoughts on the whole Michael album fiasco. No I didnt like that project but that has been the ONLY thing the Estate has done since Michaels passing that should be frowned upon. They have done alot of good things upholding his legacy, This Is It, Wii Experience, Invision etc.

The Jacksons have done nothing but exploited his children, done a bunch of gossip interviews and made countless lies regarding Michael.

It doesnt matter if Janet is not the guardian. She is STILL the aunt and if she knows about Katherines whereabouts knowing that the children are concerned than she should TELL THEM. This has nothing to do with raising or playing a parent role. As an aunt she should have done that, this is more important than speaking about an acting role. Janet doesnt do shit behind the scenes, all that shit is for T.V.

She's not going to go against her mothers wishes. Blood is thicker than water. She might have not even known of Paris' attention seeking distress. After all, she is Paris.

Stop trying to lay blame on others, and just blame Katherine. It's obvious. And besides, you've done it before - you judged her for letting the kids go on Oprah.

PLEASE DO NOT SAY BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER IN THE SAME SENTENCE WITH A Jacksons

They dont care about BLOOD being thicker than water because if they did... Janet would not have gone on Oprah, Jay Leno etc all these people that trashed Michael. Janet also would not have demanded a reimbursement for the payments for HER BROTHERS FUNERAL.

Katherine would not have sat down with Oprah the same bitch that called Michael a pedophile than had the nerve to bring his CHILDREN on the damn show

Jackie would not have kissed Oprah

Rebbie would not have been hanging out with that shady associate that trashed Michael

So please dont sit here and talk to me about blood being thicker than water... because I KNOW that... the JACKSONS OBVIOUSLY DONT THOUGH

Im not blaming other people. This is not just Katherine, this is the family. I already said that Katherine should have called but if Janet retweeted what Jermaine said in agreement what would have been so wrong in contacting Paris or calling her? Not just Janet EVEN Jermaine but that doesnt exclude Janet because she knows informationa as well. Janet claims to be so close with those children when she isnt. She always front for T.V. I dont like that shit.

lowkey said:

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

She's not going to go against her mothers wishes. Blood is thicker than water. She might have not even known of Paris' attention seeking distress. After all, she is Paris.

Stop trying to lay blame on others, and just blame Katherine. It's obvious. And besides, you've done it before - you judged her for letting the kids go on Oprah.

PLEASE DO NOT SAY BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER IN THE SAME SENTENCE WITH A Jacksons

They dont care about BLOOD being thicker than water because if they did... Janet would not have gone on Oprah, Jay Leno etc all these people that trashed Michael. Janet also would not have demanded a reimbursement for the payments for HER BROTHERS FUNERAL.

Katherine would not have sat down with Oprah the same bitch that called Michael a pedophile than had the nerve to bring his CHILDREN on the damn show

Jackie would not have kissed Oprah

Rebbie would not have been hanging out with that shady associate that trashed Michael

So please dont sit here and talk to me about blood being thicker than water... because I KNOW that... the JACKSONS OBVIOUSLY DONT THOUGH

Im not blaming other people. This is not just Katherine, this is the family. I already said that Katherine should have called but if Janet retweeted what Jermaine said in agreement what would have been so wrong in contacting Paris or calling her? Not just Janet EVEN Jermaine but that doesnt exclude Janet because she knows informationa as well. Janet claims to be so close with those children when she isnt. She always front for T.V. I dont like that shit.

Wow.

These people have their own lies. Janet just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of all time.

If she was to reject anyone who disrespected Michael, she would live on a planet with a population of one.

Additionaly, she is probably not even aware of every single person who ever trashed Michael. And even if she was, she just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of time. She has her own life

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
At Arizona Spa ... BUT
Why Abandon MJ's Kids?

EXCLUSIVE

Katherine Jackson is at a fancy spa in Tucson, Arizona, but the big question now ... why did she effectively abandon Michael Jackson's 3 kids?

Sources tell us ... Michael Jackson's siblings took Katherine from the family compound in Encino, CA to the Arizona spa, because they feel "the house is utter chaos" and Katherine is exhausted.

Here's the mystery ... Paris and presumably the other 2 kids were never told Katherine was leaving and it's been a week since they've seen her. So why would Michael's brothers and sisters yank Katherine from the home when she is the only parental link to the 3 kids who are still coping with their father's death?

Sources familiar with the situation tell us ... there's a "concerted effort" to get Katherine on board to challenge Michael Jackson's will and get the Executors removed. In addition to Randy and Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet are also on board, although it's unclear exactly how much Jackie supports the move.

Michael's siblings have a lot to gain if the will is invalidated, because it cuts them out of Michael's fortune, and once Katherine dies all the money is firmly earmarked to MJ's kids, charity, and that's it.

The L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. is still treating the report that Katherine went missing as an open investigation and they are doing a follow-up to make sure she's ok.

Check out the TMZ Poll:

MJ Siblings

• Up to no good

  92%
• Doing the right thing

  8%

Total Votes: 31,104

Good to see the delusional Jackson family stans are only a minority. Most of the world gets it and can see right through the Jermaine and them's shady, dishonest and deperate attempts.

Yeah,it looks like MOST people "get" what's going on here.

musicology54 said:

lowkey said:

they need to put them mask back on them and put em back in their lil boxes

now that's just cruel.

They have said alot of cruel nasty unnessary things...

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

PLEASE DO NOT SAY BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER IN THE SAME SENTENCE WITH A Jacksons

They dont care about BLOOD being thicker than water because if they did... Janet would not have gone on Oprah, Jay Leno etc all these people that trashed Michael. Janet also would not have demanded a reimbursement for the payments for HER BROTHERS FUNERAL.

Katherine would not have sat down with Oprah the same bitch that called Michael a pedophile than had the nerve to bring his CHILDREN on the damn show

Jackie would not have kissed Oprah

Rebbie would not have been hanging out with that shady associate that trashed Michael

So please dont sit here and talk to me about blood being thicker than water... because I KNOW that... the JACKSONS OBVIOUSLY DONT THOUGH

Im not blaming other people. This is not just Katherine, this is the family. I already said that Katherine should have called but if Janet retweeted what Jermaine said in agreement what would have been so wrong in contacting Paris or calling her? Not just Janet EVEN Jermaine but that doesnt exclude Janet because she knows informationa as well. Janet claims to be so close with those children when she isnt. She always front for T.V. I dont like that shit.

Wow.

These people have their own lies. Janet just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of all time.

If she was to reject anyone who disrespected Michael, she would live on a planet with a population of one.

Additionaly, she is probably not even aware of every single person who ever trashed Michael. And even if she was, she just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of time. She has her own life

What does her being a best seller have to do with anything

You get on MJ fans but your the one acting like a Stan

You dont see any of us saying that Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer that ever lived or is the best solo male seller ever.

Its funny because those SAME people trashed Janet as well. And the family were aware of Oprahs comments on MJ but still went on the damn show TJ confirmed this and I know Janet knew those late night comics talked trash about her brother because she even mentioned it in a conference... So blood is not thicker than water to them, they are about their BUSINESS which is MONEY.

SoulAlive said:

NaughtyKitty said:

KATHERINE JACKSON
At Arizona Spa ... BUT
Why Abandon MJ's Kids?

EXCLUSIVE

Katherine Jackson is at a fancy spa in Tucson, Arizona, but the big question now ... why did she effectively abandon Michael Jackson's 3 kids?

Sources tell us ... Michael Jackson's siblings took Katherine from the family compound in Encino, CA to the Arizona spa, because they feel "the house is utter chaos" and Katherine is exhausted.

Here's the mystery ... Paris and presumably the other 2 kids were never told Katherine was leaving and it's been a week since they've seen her. So why would Michael's brothers and sisters yank Katherine from the home when she is the only parental link to the 3 kids who are still coping with their father's death?

Sources familiar with the situation tell us ... there's a "concerted effort" to get Katherine on board to challenge Michael Jackson's will and get the Executors removed. In addition to Randy and Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet are also on board, although it's unclear exactly how much Jackie supports the move.

Michael's siblings have a lot to gain if the will is invalidated, because it cuts them out of Michael's fortune, and once Katherine dies all the money is firmly earmarked to MJ's kids, charity, and that's it.

The L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. is still treating the report that Katherine went missing as an open investigation and they are doing a follow-up to make sure she's ok.

Check out the TMZ Poll:

MJ Siblings

• Up to no good

  92%
• Doing the right thing

  8%

Total Votes: 31,104

Good to see the delusional Jackson family stans are only a minority. Most of the world gets it and can see right through the Jermaine and them's shady, dishonest and deperate attempts.

Yeah,it looks like MOST people "get" what's going on here.

Because people who read TMZ know what is going on?

Next time one of MJ's bodyguards calls MJ a drag queen as reported by TMZ, I'll believe it to?

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

Wow.

These people have their own lies. Janet just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of all time.

If she was to reject anyone who disrespected Michael, she would live on a planet with a population of one.

Additionaly, she is probably not even aware of every single person who ever trashed Michael. And even if she was, she just so happens to be one of the best selling artists of time. She has her own life

What does her being a best seller have to do with anything

You get on MJ fans but your the one acting like a Stan

You dont see any of us saying that Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer that ever lived or is the best solo male seller ever.

Its funny because those SAME people trashed Janet as well. And the family were aware of Oprahs comments on MJ but still went on the damn show TJ confirmed this and I know Janet knew those late night comics talked trash about her brother because she even mentioned it in a conference... So blood is not thicker than water to them, they are about their BUSINESS which is MONEY.

But most of this is just humour. MJ fans think MJ is perfect, and therefore above reproach of insulting jokes. And by doing so condemn everyone else, and victimes him

I know what you are trying to do; make me seem like I'm an obssesed Janet stan. Truth is, I probably prefer Janet, but I favour MJ's music.

You are acting abit erratic.

I was simply saying she is one of the best selling artist of all time, to show you, that life doesn't revolve around MJ. And he is subject to the law like everyone else.

I'm not delusional. You are more so. You admitedly denied, yesterday, that there was nothing wrong with paying $25 million to people who accused you of child molestation.

mjscarousal said:

musicology54 said:

lowkey said: now that's just cruel.

They have said alot of cruel nasty unnessary things...

Oh come on!

Nothing we have said are fabricated, rude lies which have reached the MJ family and caused them stress. Particulary weak Katherine.

Now tell me what is or isn't unnecessary.

[Edited 7/23/12 14:37pm]

lowkey said:

mjscarousal said:

You are DELUSIONAL and IGNORANT

Why would I be bitter about people I dont even know? Im just giving my opinion based on the past history and current behavior of the family. Im tired of Michaels crazy family exploiting him and trying to use him for money. And sorry Im not kissing their ass just because their his family, I dont give a fuck. Its not right what they are doing.

If Janet cared so much, why didnt she tell Paris or the children where Katherine was? If she retweeted what Jermaine said that means she must know where she is if she is in bad health. WHY NOT TELL THE CHIDREN?

Janet made false statements regarding how Michael died. That analogy is not the same in this case. She talked as if she knew what drugs were in his system which was false. Michael did not die for prescription medication. And the AUTOSPY SHOWED THAT. There was only ONE drug that killed him even though there was other anethesia drugs found in his system. There was no prescription drugs. So Yes I have issue with her spreading lies about Michael insinuating he was a drug addict when he wasnt. He passed away because of PROPOFOL and its funny you delusional detractors will constantly use anything and everything to trash Michael when the thread is not about Michael

STAY PRESSED

we are talking about whats going on right now and you all keep bringing up all these terrible things they have done to mike in the past. how do you know paris didnt already know where her grandma was? she didnt say she was missing until trent said it. sorry but mike was indeed a drug addict, even though janet never actually said that. i dont care if there was only one drug that killed him, the fact that he had a doctor in his house hooking him up on drugs is enough for me.admitting he had a drug problem is not trashing him, the problem with some of you is that you feel admitting that fact will somehow tarnish the perfect image you have of him.mike was a man with flaws like every other human being, its sad that he was surrounded by denial and it eventually led to his death. im typing to you very calm and respectful, how am i pressed?

[Edited 7/23/12 13:12pm]

First off, Im speaking on past and present. Im bringing up the past because it shows that the Jacksons cant be trusted but their present behavior since Michael passing shows the writing on the wall. Everyone in this thread has mentioned present things the Jacksons have done to try to get his money and exploit his children.... have you been reading?

I have never insisted anywhere in this thread that Michael was perfect but I am not going to allow haters or pressed assholes to trash or be hateful for no reason JUST BECAUSE they dont like him

Second, Propofol is anesthesia and you can CAN NOT get addicted to anesthesia.

Think about that for a minute before you reply Think about what an anesthesia does

It just temporarily takes away sensation and consiousness i.e. puts you to sleep. You cant get addicted to something if you are not aware

No, I dont think it was ethical or safe though.................. but Michael wanted it because he had insomnia not because he was a drug addict, that doesnt even make sense.. stay off TMZ and tabloids and do more research before you type.

You seem to want to bash Michael and defend his lying greedy ass family thats why I called you pressed and none of your posts make any sense. WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP MICHAEL???? THIS THREAD ISNT ABOUT HIM AND YOU SEEM PRESSED TO BASH HIM

Paris called Randy out because TO HER KNOWLEGE her mother was okay whether she was with her or not. Katherines OWN DOCTORS confirmed she was in good health. I dont think its right how the family didnt inform the children about Katherines whereabouts OR Katherine not calling the children since they were worried, no that isnt right, their MINORS.

lowkey said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I think Diana Ross MJ's second choice should be appointed over the estate.Paris(although very beautiful) seems very bratty to me. Its the reason I think she was bullied in school. Diana wouldn't have it. She would straiten her out & the dysfunctional Jacksons(Janet omited)...

you really think diana want this headache? she raised her kids already she dont want these kids , could see the mj fan community now counting diana's money ,accusing tracee and them of using his kids,doing a background check on all the people diana associate with. they need to put them mask back on them and put em back in their lil boxes

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

What does her being a best seller have to do with anything

You get on MJ fans but your the one acting like a Stan

You dont see any of us saying that Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer that ever lived or is the best solo male seller ever.

Its funny because those SAME people trashed Janet as well. And the family were aware of Oprahs comments on MJ but still went on the damn show TJ confirmed this and I know Janet knew those late night comics talked trash about her brother because she even mentioned it in a conference... So blood is not thicker than water to them, they are about their BUSINESS which is MONEY.

But most of this is just humour. MJ fans think MJ is perfect, and therefore above reproach of insulting jokes. And by doing so condemn everyone else, and victimes him

I know what you are trying to do; make me seem like I'm an obssesed Janet stan. Truth is, I probably prefer Janet, but I favour MJ's music.

You are acting abit erratic.

I was simply saying she is one of the best selling artist of all time, to show you, that life doesn't revolve around MJ. And he is subject to the law like everyone else.

I'm not delusional. You are more so. You admitedly denied, yesterday, that there was nothing wrong with paying $25 million to people who accused you of child molestation.

Azz what does MICHAEL JACKSON have to do with this?

This ENTIRE time I mention errors that Michael made and issues he had BUT you on the other hand have not ONCE mentioned any file on Janets or the families part.

No you are delusional my friend

Janet being one of the best selling artist of all time is rather irrelevant and common knowledge so why bring it up? It seems you just brought it up to stan... and I know everything doesnt revolve around MJ. This isnt about MJ. This is about Katherine so why make it about MJ?

I am not delusional, you are so continue to have your fun in bashing Michael when this thread is not even about him.

I said if the child was really molested the parents would not have accepted the money because they would have wanted justice for their child. In real parent would have fought if it was true. The family just wanted money thats why they took it and went on with their life because thats all they wanted.

That TMZ story is ludicrous. Watch them redact it later.

Here's some accurate reporting, ironically affirming what I already stated in these farcical threads yesterday:

Posted on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:25 AM PDT

X17 EXCLUSIVE said:

KATHERINE JACKSON TOLD FAMILY HE WAS LEAVING TOWN, DESPITE REPORTS CLAIMING SHE DISAPPEARED

When Katherine Jackson left for Arizona, she DID let the children know she was leaving town, a Jackson family

source confirms to X17.

Various online reports claim the Jackson matriarch left her home in Calabasas without notifying Paris, Prince and Blanket of her plans.

A source from within the family tells X17online exclusively, “This is simply untrue. In fact, Prince helped her [Katherine] carry

her bags to the car before she left on her trip.”

As for the Tweets from Paris Jackson’s Twitter account claiming that Katherine was missing, family members suspect Katherine’s

nephew, Trent, was behind those messages.

We’re told Katherine went to Arizona to spend time with her daughter Rebbie, and to get away from Trent, who the Jacksons say is “the

very person and persons we are trying to protect our mother from.” Currently, we're told Trent is prohibiting family members from

speaking with Michael's three children.

Aside from being investigated for filing a bogus missing persons report, X17online exclusively reported that Trent is also named in

a pending elder abuse investigation being conducted by the Sheriff’s Department.

Although Steve Whitmore of the LA County Sheriff’s Department declined to comment, the Jackson family confirms that the investigation,

which also names current Jackson estate executors John Branca and John McClain, is underway.

Source: http://www.x17online.com/...72312.php?

if there is an investigation, i'm sure it will all come out in the wash, as they say. however, i don't think that saying that prince helped his grandmother pack 'proves' that the kids are liars. it was known that kat was supposed to be going to az to see her sons perform, so maybe he did help her.

the mystery, at least as far as paris seems to be concerned, is why she wasn't able to speak to her grandmother, and why the tito's boys were questioning the actions of kat's children as well.

That X17 Online story is ludicrous. Watch them redact it later.

TMZ actually did some accurate reporting, ironically affirming what's already been said by intelligent people in these entertaining threads.

Exactly. That little tidbit of Prince helping Katherine pack PROVES NOTHING! So what if they knew she was going away, that dont prove jack! Obviously they expected her back by a certain time and when she didnt come back, along with not hearing from her, they got worried. Funny how the Jackson family defenders wanna slag off any news story that that highlights the devious actions of the siblings, but when theres a news story that's printed in favor of the siblings and lets them off the hook, they declare it as accurate reporting Problem is, even those news stories that try to downplay the Jackson's acts of deception still dont prove their bogus claims that this was all just a big misunderstanding or that Trent "the evil nephew" Jackson is behind all this somehow.

In reality you've got people from the Jackson family who are the "sources" or "family insiders" giving their "exclusives" to the media. And the other sources that are for the estate are giving their info to the media as well. So which source is right and which source is wrong? Thankfully I dont have to rely on just the mere words of sources. The actions of the Jacksons have shown me and many others what this is all really about. The sources claims mentioned in the TMZ article only confirm what many people already know

NaughtyKitty said:

That X17 Online story is ludicrous. Watch them redact it later.

TMZ actually did some accurate reporting, ironically affirming what's already been said by intelligent people in these entertaining threads.

if there is an investigation, i'm sure it will all come out in the wash, as they say. however, i don't think that saying that prince helped his grandmother pack 'proves' that the kids are liars. it was known that kat was supposed to be going to az to see her sons perform, so maybe he did help her. the mystery, at least as far as paris seems to be concerned, is why she wasn't able to speak to her grandmother, and why the tito's boys were questioning the actions of kat's children as well.

Exactly. That little tidbit of Prince helping Katherine pack PROVES NOTHING! So what if they knew she was going away, that dont prove jack! Obviously they expected her back by a certain time and when she didnt come back, along with not hearing from her, they got worried. Funny how the Jackson family defenders wanna slag off any news story that that highlights the devious actions of the siblings, but when theres a news story that's printed in favor of the siblings and lets them off the hook, they declare it as accurate reporting Problem is, even those news stories that try to downplay the Jackson's acts of deception still dont prove their bogus claims that this was all just a big misunderstanding or that Trent "the evil nephew" Jackson is behind all this somehow.

In reality you've got people from the Jackson family who are the "sources" or "family insiders" giving their "exclusives" to the media. And the other sources that are for the estate are giving their info to the media as well. So which source is right and which source is wrong? Thankfully I dont have to rely on just the mere words of sources. The actions of the Jacksons have shown me and many others what this is all really about. The sources claims mentioned in the TMZ article only confirm what many people already know

and as someone else mentioned, why would they leave mj3 with trent, if they are convinced that he is guilty of elder abuse? why take katherine out of her own house? get a court order, and make trent leave. if these people were about anything real and true, that's what they would have done.

there is a pix going around of rebbie, kat, and others holding up 'uno' cards and smiling. that really makes me sad that they're taking pleasure in laughing in paris' face. whether you believe paris jumped the gun or not, what kind of adults treat a child that way? i'm sure paris doesn't think this is funny, and considering the gravity of the situation - as the jacksons see it with the 'fake and fraudulent' will and so-called abuse of their mother - i'm not sure why rebbie and kat find it funny, either. if she's so stressed out from mj3, she needs to make arrangements to have someone else take over.

mjscarousal said:

PLEASE DO NOT SAY BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER IN THE SAME SENTENCE WITH A Jacksons

They dont care about BLOOD being thicker than water because if they did... Janet would not have gone on Oprah, Jay Leno etc all these people that trashed Michael. Janet also would not have demanded a reimbursement for the payments for HER BROTHERS FUNERAL.

Katherine would not have sat down with Oprah the same bitch that called Michael a pedophile than had the nerve to bring his CHILDREN on the damn show

Jackie would not have kissed Oprah

Rebbie would not have been hanging out with that shady associate that trashed Michael

So please dont sit here and talk to me about blood being thicker than water... because I KNOW that... the JACKSONS OBVIOUSLY DONT THOUGH

In other words, this family is weak. Unlike other families this family don't have any balls for their loved one. I saw above someone said MJ was a drug addict and my thing is, so was Elvis and so was John Lennon, but do you see their friends and family allowing anyone to dirty up their names? Hell no. But this big ass family allows it. And this is the exact reason why no one roots for them to come anywhere near MJ's money. If they grew a pair and fought for the man who paid the bills, who wouldn't be cheering them on? But they don't do shit, so you're just grossed out at them trying to go after the executors.

And what's sad is, everyone said after MJ's passing they would be pussies and stupid when it came to his name and legacy. That's why I don't get it when the family stans justify their actions. It was already predicted they would act like this. If Lisa Marie was kissing up to those who spit at her father it would be surprising. But this family doing it? Of course they will.

^Yes I see that pic.

KATHERINE JACKSON
'What's All The Fuss?'

Katherine Jackson is alive and well in Arizona, though she's playing her cards close to her vest.

TMZ broke the story ... Michael Jackson's siblings whisked Katherine away to a spa in Tucson to help her escape what they called the "utter chaos" of the Jackson family home in Encino. Apparently no one told Katherine's nephew,who reported her missing Saturday night.

Now, a photo of Katherine at the Arizona spa has surfaced -- showing her playing UNO with her daughter Rebbie, her granddaughter Stacy, and her great grandson London.

Katherine is supposedly relaxing and having a good time.

Not pictured: MJ's children ... who Katherine abandoned in L.A. during her getaway.

But I shouldnt be surprised. Nothing but PR spin from the Jackson camp. I see TMZ got this from X17online--Randy or Jermaine or Rebbie or someone is feeding them this stuff. Tell me how will this NOT backfire and blow up in their faces?

Katherine looks traumatised, her smile surely masks her kidnap trauma..

MJ crazy stans look so dumb right now. I love it.