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Thread started 07/19/12 2:46pm

silverchild

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Raz talks again...

disbelief

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Reply #1 posted 07/19/12 2:52pm

paisleypark4

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RAZ tryin to tell yall about the industry....mmhmm iktr

No Im at work and cant wait to listen to this hot mess

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Reply #2 posted 07/19/12 2:57pm

nursev

This muthafunka certifiable eek
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Reply #3 posted 07/19/12 3:22pm

Timmy84

Time for him to put that muzzle in his mouth and shut the fuck up... tired of him.

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Reply #4 posted 07/19/12 3:32pm

missfee

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Hit the stop button after only 40 seconds...

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 07/19/12 4:36pm

smoothcriminal
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Shut up nikka.

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Reply #6 posted 07/19/12 5:22pm

babybugz

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He maybe crazy but I believe some of his story. Sad.

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Reply #7 posted 07/19/12 5:47pm

CynicKill

This is why forgiveness is crucial for happiness and success in life.

There most likely is something to his story, but he really needs to let it go. I can only imagine how hard that can be, but he seems to be driving himself crazy trying to get confessions out of these people.

Accept it happened, find some understranding in why it happened, you go your way I go mine and done!

I know it's a cliche but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

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Reply #8 posted 07/19/12 6:58pm

silverchild

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babybugz said:

He maybe crazy but I believe some of his story. Sad.

I do too. It's just sad that he hasn't gotten the full help he needs. It's clear just from this video that whatever happened to him in the past has had a full impact on his well-being and sanity.

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Reply #9 posted 07/20/12 6:51am

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Of the many possible diagnostic options ... Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is some heavy stuff. It can trigger other, underlyng illnesses with its incredible power of destruction. I think this young man would have been a "handful" regardless of his life experiences based on the constitution he came into the world with, but whatever he went through with these people as an adolesent resonates loudly. It seems like he is projecting and overstating some facts that he can't stop perseverting on, but some kinda shit went down, ain't no question for me.

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Reply #10 posted 07/20/12 7:11am

allsmutaside

silverchild said:

babybugz said:

He maybe crazy but I believe some of his story. Sad.

I do too. It's just sad that he hasn't gotten the full help he needs. It's clear just from this video that whatever happened to him in the past has had a full impact on his well-being and sanity.

It is heartbreaking to watch, or even turn away from. Often there is not enough help in the world.

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Reply #11 posted 07/20/12 7:12am

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allsmutaside said:

Of the many possible diagnostic options ... Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is some heavy stuff. It can trigger other, underlyng illnesses with its incredible power of destruction. I think this young man would have been a "handful" regardless of his life experiences based on the constitution he came into the world with, but whatever he went through with these people as an adolesent resonates loudly. It seems like he is projecting and overstating some facts that he can't stop perseverting on, but some kinda shit went down, ain't no question for me.

Well he need to write a damn book

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Reply #12 posted 07/20/12 7:19am

allsmutaside

paisleypark4 said:

allsmutaside said:

Of the many possible diagnostic options ... Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is some heavy stuff. It can trigger other, underlyng illnesses with its incredible power of destruction. I think this young man would have been a "handful" regardless of his life experiences based on the constitution he came into the world with, but whatever he went through with these people as an adolesent resonates loudly. It seems like he is projecting and overstating some facts that he can't stop perseverting on, but some kinda shit went down, ain't no question for me.

Well he need to write a damn book

Would anyone but it? I think you're right though. If he had some real financial security, his story was clearly stated and he felt truly heard, that could be like unclogging a drain. Maybe then he could get the help flowing that he needs.

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Reply #13 posted 07/20/12 7:24am

allsmutaside

allsmutaside said:

paisleypark4 said:

Well he need to write a damn book

Would anyone but buy it? I think you're right though. If he had some real financial security, his story was clearly stated and he felt truly heard, that could be like unclogging a drain. Maybe then he could get the help flowing that he needs.

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Reply #14 posted 07/20/12 7:26am

Fury

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He does not sound like he is lying
I really believe Chris stokes was doing a Sandusky on those kids-- promising them riches and fame in return for some favors
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Reply #15 posted 07/20/12 7:40am

GoldDolphin

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I feel sad for what happened to him, but he needs to get help as soon as possible.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix
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Reply #16 posted 07/20/12 7:44am

mjscarousal

Fury said:

He does not sound like he is lying I really believe Chris stokes was doing a Sandusky on those kids-- promising them riches and fame in return for some favors

I think its messed up how Omarian and Marques etc have basically disowned him. They should try helping him... disbelief sad

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Reply #17 posted 07/20/12 7:58am

allsmutaside

mjscarousal said:

Fury said:

He does not sound like he is lying I really believe Chris stokes was doing a Sandusky on those kids-- promising them riches and fame in return for some favors

I think its messed up how Omarian and Marques etc have basically disowned him. They should try helping him... :disbelief: sad

Yep.

But it seems like they might be drawing back a nub every time the extend a helping hand. I would be scered to reach out to him myself.

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Reply #18 posted 07/20/12 8:15am

mjscarousal

allsmutaside said:

mjscarousal said:

I think its messed up how Omarian and Marques etc have basically disowned him. They should try helping him... :disbelief: sad

Yep.

But it seems like they might be drawing back a nub every time the extend a helping hand. I would be scered to reach out to him myself.

Thats because Raz needs mental help.. Its clear with all these videos he needs to talk to a doctor and get some meds prescribed, all jokes aside. I think that they know he is telling the truth but their not willing to expose it. They all grew up together I would think they would have more of a interest in his well being...

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Reply #19 posted 07/20/12 9:27am

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Reply #20 posted 07/20/12 9:53am

Tokyo89

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I made it to 49 seconds...

She Don't Speak..But She Remembers
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Reply #21 posted 07/21/12 6:54am

jeidee

I read afew articles about this online and one mentions a horrific situation with Quindon Tarver who did that cover of When Doves Cry back when... This does sound like some deep rooted Sandusky nastiness.

Also could not help but notice lotsssss of rough comments for these articles on certain sites from very aggressive, one named, picless females (Chrissy, Jasmine, Joanne etc.) even on sites directed towards gay men. Smells fishy, but whatevs. Herez the pages I read that made me wonder:

http://allhiphop.com/2012...n-are-gay/

http://www.queerty.com/b2...-20101026/

One dude mentioned Immature posing in their boxers and I remember as a kid thinking that looked real suspect.
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Reply #22 posted 07/21/12 5:28pm

Timmy84

^ Both Immature and B2K got photos of them in their underwear. I do believe Raz got messed with and it's clear his former collaborators are peeved at this but ain't no way Marques and 'em are gonna fess up to it and the way Raz is going by it is not cool at all either.

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Reply #23 posted 07/21/12 9:55pm

scriptgirl

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whatever happened to immature anyway? how old is raz?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #24 posted 07/21/12 10:40pm

aardvark15

Who?
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Reply #25 posted 07/22/12 5:52am

Pr1nceQuik

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I feel sorry for him. The man is struggling with the fact he is not in the limelight no more (remember how huge B2K were?), and he now comes across as bitter & hell bent in exposing Marques Houston, Stokes (which he rightfully is entitled to if they did molest him as a kid) and Omarion, trying to ruin them as well.

He just had an "accident" when he walked through a glass door and cut his wrist, which in my opinion was a cover up for a suicide attempt...

Dude needs help, and I wish him all the best.

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Reply #26 posted 07/22/12 9:06am

Terrib3Towel

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No one cares Raz.

Go take your Prozac.
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Reply #27 posted 07/22/12 11:40am

CynicKill

Pr1nceQuik said:

I feel sorry for him. The man is struggling with the fact he is not in the limelight no more (remember how huge B2K were?), and he now comes across as bitter & hell bent in exposing Marques Houston, Stokes (which he rightfully is entitled to if they did molest him as a kid) and Omarion, trying to ruin them as well.

He just had an "accident" when he walked through a glass door and cut his wrist, which in my opinion was a cover up for a suicide attempt...

Dude needs help, and I wish him all the best.

yeahthat

It's also possible that the other guys just want to move on because no matter what we feel they should do, bringing something like this out into the open will turn their lives upside down and they're the ones that are going to have to go through it. If they have truly moved on then they feel no need to do that.

NOW, if it turns out that they have knowledge that it's STILL going on...

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