Free2BMe said:

SEANMAN said:

It's impossible that Janet denied Paris the opportunity to talk to her grandmother because she's not even in the states. Janet hasn't been in the U.S. for a while now. She was in Paris for a lot of April/May apartment shopping, at the amfAR gala, and with Wissam. Then in Qatar in mid June with Wissam. Then she has been in Italy for over a week now with Wissam. So how can she be the one not allowing the grandkids to talk to Katherine when she isn't even in the states?

Janet and Wissam in Italy from a couple of days ago

SMH at Janet signing that deceptive letter with her siblings and then releasing photos as if she wasn't involved and trying to distance herself from the mess that she and her siblings caused.

She didn't release these phots. You are crazy.

Meanwhile:

@im_goddess They're just willing to put aside their hatred of Katherine as an excuse to attack the rest of the family.

@im_goddess I just can't get over this attitude of entitlement. 'We demand to know this'. 'We won't rest until that'. Outrageous.

@im_goddess When Michael spoke about conspiracy, he turned to his family for support. They walked into the courthouse with him every day.

Free2BMe said:

SEANMAN said:

It's impossible that Janet denied Paris the opportunity to talk to her grandmother because she's not even in the states. Janet hasn't been in the U.S. for a while now. She was in Paris for a lot of April/May apartment shopping, at the amfAR gala, and with Wissam. Then in Qatar in mid June with Wissam. Then she has been in Italy for over a week now with Wissam. So how can she be the one not allowing the grandkids to talk to Katherine when she isn't even in the states?

Janet and Wissam in Italy from a couple of days ago

SMH at Janet signing that deceptive letter with her siblings and then releasing photos as if she wasn't involved and trying to distance herself from the mess that she and her siblings caused.

There is no date on the letter, so who knows when it was signed.

Free2BMe said:

SEANMAN said:

This. Janet, of anybody in that family, doesn't need anything from her late brother's estate. She is one of the richest female entertainers in the world. She loved her brother. She did many things for him when he was alive.

Who said that JANET needed Michael's money? The FACT is that she is as involved in this mess as the others who signed and drafted the letter. It's quite obvious that she doesn't need Michael's money; however, her family needs it and she doesn't want them to harrass her for her money; therefore, she will sign and do anything so that her family won't bother HER money. She doesn't give a damn if they drain Michael's money, as long as hers is safe.

It's no longer Michael's estate. It's the executives' estate. Afterall, they did say to Katherine that they were Michael now. Also, they are earning millions monthly. Katherine is earning $60,000. Where is the justice in that.

I'd rather his mother get the money, or even his father and his siblings - the people who he was brought up with, the people who helped him get where he was, the people who had his back when he was accused of horrible things, the people who had his back when he did crazy things. Rather than executives who Michael called 'evil'.

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Alright, with all of these claims of deception, I probably wouldn't doubt them were it not for one little gigantic hole in the theory: Why would Randy suddenly work with Jermaine for this?

After rejecting everything involving this brother, who he has not interacted with personally or professionally for almost 20 years, UNLESS the occassion was something positive for Michael, and then of course that memorial and funeral, why would Randy cooperate and agree with Jermaine now to hurt Michael, especially against his own mother?

Azz said:

Free2BMe said:

SMH at Janet signing that deceptive letter with her siblings and then releasing photos as if she wasn't involved and trying to distance herself from the mess that she and her siblings caused.

She didn't release these phots. You are crazy.

Exactly. Some people need to just be quiet and stay quiet.

https://twitter.com/CEThomson

For anyone who wants a reality check.

SEANMAN said:

Azz said:

She didn't release these phots. You are crazy.

Exactly. Some people need to just be quiet and stay quiet.

Regardless if she released the photos or not she still signed a phoney letter and its clear she has no intentions of getting involved or cares.

I think some of yall are REALLY naive if you honestly believe NO JACKSON knows where Katherine is... I highly doubt that.

Celebrities pay photographers to take pictures and have them released to the media. Its a common practice in Hollywood. Just sayin.

NaughtyKitty said:

Celebrities pay photographers to take pictures and have them released to the media. Its a common practice in Hollywood. Just sayin.

It is... but Janet stans think Janet is PERFECT and her motives can't be questioned and shes just perfect and is error free.

I believe its very possible she could have had the photos released not saying its FACT but definitly possible.

mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

Exactly. Some people need to just be quiet and stay quiet.

Regardless if she released the photos or not she still signed a phoney letter and its clear she has no intentions of getting involved or cares.

I think some of yall are REALLY naive if you honestly believe NO JACKSON knows where Katherine is... I highly doubt that.

What? Jermaine Tweeted saying Katherine was in AZ. Actually - wait a second - according to MJ fans, Jermaine is a liar. So we can't believe him - can we?

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Regardless if she released the photos or not she still signed a phoney letter and its clear she has no intentions of getting involved or cares.

I think some of yall are REALLY naive if you honestly believe NO JACKSON knows where Katherine is... I highly doubt that.

What? Jermaine Tweeted saying Katherine was in AZ. Actually - wait a second - according to MJ fans, Jermaine is a liar. So we can't believe him - can we?

They are a mess.

NaughtyKitty said:

Celebrities pay photographers to take pictures and have them released to the media. Its a common practice in Hollywood. Just sayin.

Exactly.

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Celebrities pay photographers to take pictures and have them released to the media. Its a common practice in Hollywood. Just sayin.

It is... but Janet stans think Janet is PERFECT and her motives can't be questioned and shes just perfect and is error free.

I believe its very possible she could have had the photos released not saying its FACT but definitly possible.

Yep!

mjscarousal said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Celebrities pay photographers to take pictures and have them released to the media. Its a common practice in Hollywood. Just sayin.

It is... but Mj stans think MJ is PERFECT and her motives can't be questioned and shes just perfect and is error free.

I believe its very possible she could have had the photos released not saying its FACT but definitly possible.

It seems unlikely, she's on holiday... she's not the one to hold loved ones off high storey to show off. She's more private.

... It's a joke.

BTW. Janet fans bash Janet more than anyone else. They just know nonsense when they see it. And don't claim her worst works as very good albums (an opposite example being Invincible).

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Regardless if she released the photos or not she still signed a phoney letter and its clear she has no intentions of getting involved or cares.

I think some of yall are REALLY naive if you honestly believe NO JACKSON knows where Katherine is... I highly doubt that.

What? Jermaine Tweeted saying Katherine was in AZ. Actually - wait a second - according to MJ fans, Jermaine is a liar. So we can't believe him - can we?

I dont trust Jermaine from across the street.

You can believe that though I dont automatically believe everything I hear especially when it comes from this family because they ARE liars.

I take whatever he says for a grain of salt along with everyone else in that famiy. Just because he made a public statement of where she was... doesnt necessarily make it true. He could just be saying that because their is a missing report although I do think he knows where she is, whereever she is.

He KNOWS where his mother is. I just think his a fool for not picking up the phone and telling MJ 3 that. Dont tell the public, TELL THE CHILDREN or the POLICE.

A freakin missing report has been issued

His acting all casual with it over twitter like its not a big issue.... when it is.

Azz said:

Free2BMe said:

Who said that JANET needed Michael's money? The FACT is that she is as involved in this mess as the others who signed and drafted the letter. It's quite obvious that she doesn't need Michael's money; however, her family needs it and she doesn't want them to harrass her for her money; therefore, she will sign and do anything so that her family won't bother HER money. She doesn't give a damn if they drain Michael's money, as long as hers is safe.

It's no longer Michael's estate. It's the executives' estate. Afterall, they did say to Katherine that they were Michael now. Also, they are earning millions monthly. Katherine is earning $60,000. Where is the justice in that.

I'd rather his mother get the money, or even his father and his siblings - the people who he was brought up with, the people who helped him get where he was, the people who had his back when he was accused of horrible things, the people who had his back when he did crazy things. Rather than executives who Michael called 'evil'.

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If his family gets a hold of Michael's money, there won't be any left for the rightful heirs-his children. All one has to do is to look at the mess that these people are in now. Who the hell would want them to have a say in Michael's estate. Janet signed a letter for the executors to step down. I wonder if she is thinking about allowing her family to run her estate after she dies?

Free2BMe said:

Azz said:

It's no longer Michael's estate. It's the executives' estate. Afterall, they did say to Katherine that they were Michael now. Also, they are earning millions monthly. Katherine is earning $60,000. Where is the justice in that.

I'd rather his mother get the money, or even his father and his siblings - the people who he was brought up with, the people who helped him get where he was, the people who had his back when he was accused of horrible things, the people who had his back when he did crazy things. Rather than executives who Michael called 'evil'.

[Edited 7/22/12 16:43pm]

If his family gets a hold of Michael's money, there won't be any left for the rightful heirs-his children. All one has to do is to look at the mess that these people are in now. Who the hell would want them to have a say in Michael's estate. Janet signed a letter for the executors to step down. I wonder if she is thinking about allowing her family to run her estate after she dies?

Your stupidty exceeds you. NOWHERE IN THE LETTER DOES IT SAY THE JACKSONS ARE SEIZING CONTROL OF THE ESTATE.

THEY HAVE NOT SAID THIS, THEY HAVE NO EXPERTESE, THEY DO NOT WANT THIS, IT WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTED BY A JUDGE - AND THEY KNOW IT WOULDN'T.

Sorry for the caps, but I just couldn't bare to hear someone say that AGAIN.

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

What? Jermaine Tweeted saying Katherine was in AZ. Actually - wait a second - according to MJ fans, Jermaine is a liar. So we can't believe him - can we?

I dont trust Jermaine from across the street.

You can believe that though I dont automatically believe everything I hear especially when it comes from this family because they ARE liars.

I take whatever he says for a grain of salt along with everyone else in that famiy. Just because he made a public statement of where she was... doesnt necessarily make it true. He could just be saying that because their is a missing report although I do think he knows where she is, whereever she is.

He KNOWS where his mother is. I just think his a fool for not picking up the phone and telling MJ 3 that. Dont tell the public, TELL THE CHILDREN or the POLICE.

A freakin missing report has been issued

His acting all casual with it over twitter like its not a big issue.... when it is.

As a news reporter with intelligence just said (check my sig).

The missing person's report is just a smokescreen to find out where she is.

If katherine suffered a stroke or not, is kind of irrelivant. The woman is old, and shouldnt have to look after another three children (she had enough of her own). Particulary when one of them seems quite a handful - what with her posting bikini pics, demanding she be allowed to do film roles (against her fathers and aunts wishes) and then claiming Janet is jealous of her. And now this (accusing her aunts and uncles of lying, having no respect, lying herself aswell as being disrespectful). KATHERINE NEEDS HER REST. (And who better than her eldest, to tend to her needs)

Another thing the journalist said was the following: A few weeks ago you would have been raging at Katherine herself for using Michael for money, fame, for not looking after the kids properly, for letting them do Oprah interviews. And now? You guys are just using Katherine as an execuse to bash the rest of Michael, the innocent victim's, siblings.

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Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

It is... but Mj stans think MJ is PERFECT and her motives can't be questioned and shes just perfect and is error free.

I believe its very possible she could have had the photos released not saying its FACT but definitly possible.

It seems unlikely, she's on holiday... she's not the one to hold loved ones off high storey to show off. She's more private.

... It's a joke.

BTW. Janet fans bash Janet more than anyone else. They just know nonsense when they see it. And don't claim her worst works as very good albums (an opposite example being Invincible).

Thats not true at all Janet fans love ALL Janet albums even Discipline. Honestly, Janets BEST albums are Control, RN, Janet and VR and everything else is just mediocrity. She messed up when she went the generic route. O trust me I know because I have all her albums Janet fans think she can sing better than Michael and that she writes all her music among other delusional things

MJ fans bash Invincible all the time. Invincible is Michaels weakest album, however its not as bad as critics make it out to be. Ive never heard any MJ fan claiming that albums was his best.

Its not his best.

FYI, Janet is not that private and even in an interview she said she gives the most interviews out of everyone in her family, which is true. She said this HERSELF.

Dont battle with me Azz cause Im always strapped and I can go

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mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

It seems unlikely, she's on holiday... she's not the one to hold loved ones off high storey to show off. She's more private.

... It's a joke.

BTW. Janet fans bash Janet more than anyone else. They just know nonsense when they see it. And don't claim her worst works as very good albums (an opposite example being Invincible).

Thats not true at all Janet fans love ALL Janet albums even Discipline. Honestly, Janets BEST albums are Control, RN, Janet and VR and everything else is just mediocrity. She messed up when she went the generic route. O trust me I know because I have all her albums Janet fans think she can sing better than Michael and that she writes all her music among other delusional things

MJ fans bash Invincible all the time. Invincible is Michaels weakest album, however its not as bad as critics make it out to be. Ive never heard any MJ fan claiming that albums was his best.

Its not his best.

FYI, Janet is not that private and even in an interview she said she gives the most interviews out of everyone in her family, which is true. She said this HERSELF.

Dont battle with me Azz cause Im always strapped and I can go

[Edited 7/22/12 17:22pm]

Janet isn't private? Are you kidding me? The woman has the ability to disappear for months at a time and re-emerge when she gets ready to. She's very secretive about her private life.

mjscarousal said:

Azz said:

It seems unlikely, she's on holiday... she's not the one to hold loved ones off high storey to show off. She's more private.

... It's a joke.

BTW. Janet fans bash Janet more than anyone else. They just know nonsense when they see it. And don't claim her worst works as very good albums (an opposite example being Invincible).

Thats not true at all Janet fans love ALL Janet albums even Discipline. Honestly, Janets BEST albums are Control, RN, Janet and VR and everything else is just mediocrity. She messed up when she went the generic route. O trust me I know because I have all her albums Janet fans think she can sing better than Michael and that she writes all her music among other delusional things

MJ fans bash Invincible all the time. Invincible is Michaels weakest album, however its not as bad as critics make it out to be. Ive never heard any MJ fan claiming that albums was his best.

Its not his best.

FYI, Janet is not that private and even in an interview she said she gives the most interviews out of everyone in her family, which is true. She said this HERSELF.

Dont battle with me Azz cause Im always strapped and I can go

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So can I.

Janet fans do not think that she can sing better than Michael. Some may have said she can dance better, in terms of the many choreographed dance routines in her videos and the versatility of them. But that's as far as it goes.

The same could be said for Michael. Off the wall, Thriller, Bad, and Rhythm Nation II [AKA Dangerous (Joke ) ]. The rest is mediocrity - awful.

Interviews about music perhaps, in which she actually spoke little of herself, or the same thing over and over again. She only once invited a guest - someone she trusted - into her home. And this was only for a matter of minutes, and there was no snooping around. Unlike MJ and Oprah and Bashir.

Katherine Jackson
I'm Fine
and NOT Missing

reports TMZ

Katherine Jackson has spoken to police, and she is not in danger ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

Another source tells us she is Arizona.

The LA County Sheriff's Department has been investigating Katherine's whereabouts since she was reported missing late Saturday night.

We're told the Sheriff's Dept. is still speaking to Jackson family members to find out exactly why Katherine's nephew filed the missing person report in the first place.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:25pm]

SEANMAN said:

Katherine Jackson
I'm Fine
and NOT Missing

reports TMZ

Katherine Jackson has spoken to police, and she is not in danger ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

Another source tells us she is Arizona.

The LA County Sheriff's Department has been investigating Katherine's whereabouts since she was reported missing late Saturday night.

We're told the Sheriff's Dept. is still speaking to Jackson family members to find out exactly why Katherine's nephew filed the missing person report in the first place.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:25pm]

I guess if Paris hadn't been so insistent about her grandmother's whereabouts, the Jackson Clan would still be playing games with the media and public. Thank God for this young girls concern about her grandmother. I wonder if Katherine knows the game that her own children have been playing with her health, the "stroke" and with the media?

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Free2BMe said:

SEANMAN said:

Katherine Jackson
I'm Fine
and NOT Missing

reports TMZ

Katherine Jackson has spoken to police, and she is not in danger ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

Another source tells us she is Arizona.

The LA County Sheriff's Department has been investigating Katherine's whereabouts since she was reported missing late Saturday night.

We're told the Sheriff's Dept. is still speaking to Jackson family members to find out exactly why Katherine's nephew filed the missing person report in the first place.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:25pm]

I guess if Paris hadn't been so insistent about her grandmother's whereabouts, the Jackson Clan would still be playing games with the media and public. Thank God for this young girls concern about her grandmother. I wonder if Katherine knows the game that her own children have been playing with her health, the "stroke" and with the media?

[Edited 7/22/12 20:43pm]

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt mean that everything is ok. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:55pm]

Free2BMe said:

SEANMAN said:

Katherine Jackson
I'm Fine
and NOT Missing

reports TMZ

Katherine Jackson has spoken to police, and she is not in danger ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

Another source tells us she is Arizona.

The LA County Sheriff's Department has been investigating Katherine's whereabouts since she was reported missing late Saturday night.

We're told the Sheriff's Dept. is still speaking to Jackson family members to find out exactly why Katherine's nephew filed the missing person report in the first place.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:25pm]

I guess if Paris hadn't been so insistent about her grandmother's whereabouts, the Jackson Clan would still be playing games with the media and public. Thank God for this young girls concern about her grandmother. I wonder if Katherine knows the game that her own children have been playing with her health, the "stroke" and with the media?

[Edited 7/22/12 20:43pm]

Agreed

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

So did they confirm this over the phone or in person?

NaughtyKitty said:

Free2BMe said:

I guess if Paris hadn't been so insistent about her grandmother's whereabouts, the Jackson Clan would still be playing games with the media and public. Thank God for this young girls concern about her grandmother. I wonder if Katherine knows the game that her own children have been playing with her health, the "stroke" and with the media?

[Edited 7/22/12 20:43pm]

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt make this an open/shut case. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

NaughtyKitty said:

Free2BMe said:

I guess if Paris hadn't been so insistent about her grandmother's whereabouts, the Jackson Clan would still be playing games with the media and public. Thank God for this young girls concern about her grandmother. I wonder if Katherine knows the game that her own children have been playing with her health, the "stroke" and with the media?

[Edited 7/22/12 20:43pm]

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt mean that everything is ok. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

[Edited 7/22/12 20:55pm]

There is absolutely no excuse for the way that the Jackson Familh has handled this situation. The bottomline is that this has everything to do with the letter that they released to the media. They had PLANNED to perpetuate a LIE and claime that the estate's actions caused Katherine to have a stroke. However, they never anticipated that a young girl would question their LIE about a stroke that never happened and why she hadn't heard from their guardian, their grandmother in 5 days. Why would anyone put three CHILDREN through that sort of thing just to perpetuate a LIE? Even the weak-azz attempts of Jackson defenders can't find a reason why Katherine or her children wouldn't contact MINOR children to let them know that she was alright; especially since she has never done this before. I guess the Jackson clan had to whisk Katherine out of town, on the pretense that it was doctor's orders( which the doctor says he knows nothing about) to get her away before they released the letter to the media. ALL of this was planned in an attempt to intimidate, garner public and media sympathy, in order to coerce the executors to step down. The Jacksons never in a million years would have anticipated a grandchild's action- a strong-minded, concerned, intelligent child- who wouldn't accept the BULLSHIT from her aunt and uncles. I'm glad Katherine is ok, and I applaud and say BRAVO, BRAVURA, BRAVISSISSIMO to Paris Katherine Jackson for defending your grandmother, being concerned about her well-being and most importantly exposing the scam of Jermaine, Janet, Randy, Tito and Rebbie Jackson to your father's fans, the public and media.

NaughtyKitty said:

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ police were able to make contact with Katherine today ... and she informed them "she is fine and with a family member."

So did they confirm this over the phone or in person?

A good question because I don't trust ANYTHING that the Jacksons say or do anymore. For them to pull this crap is inexcusable and even more so now, I hope that they are unsuccessful in their bid to take over Michael's estate, because this is the reason for this farce that they have perpetuated.