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How so? I dont know what goes on behind closed doors but the writing is on the wall based on the behavior of the Jacksons. Compared to Michael, Janet hasnt nearly done as much and to be honest its good she said NO because the Jacksons are greedy bastards but I'm willing to bet everything if something had ever happened to Janet Michael would have paid for everything or went out his way to help her financially. Janet doesnt seem like she cares because nothing that doesnt pertains to her but how much you willing to bet NONE of the JACKSONS are in her will maybe Katherine but thats it..
I dont think thats an assumption per se... because its based on HER ACTIONS and her behavior.
You tell me what Janet has done that shows that she really cares about Michaels Estate and not having the Jacksons use his money????? | |
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Yeah I told them as soon as I posted that I would, and still nothing. | |
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One minute Michael hated his siblings and secluded himself from them. The next minute, he gave all of his money to them and because he did so, ended up in $500 millon debt.
MJ fans can't make up their mind.
Why would Janet need to withold Michael's legacy? It speaks for itself. Saying he was addicted to drugs, or saying that he called her loads of names when she was younger (which BTW she also said he was a loving brother, etc) has little effect on his legacy; because he has done far crazier things in public and has been called a lot worse. People are so over exaggerating when they say she 'threw him under the bus. It's actually quite pathetic. The only sibling that really 'threw him under the bus' is Latoya.
Why would she care about Michael's estate. Again, it doesnt seem like the children are really benefiting from the money it is making. Whilst the executives have received over $50 million, Katherine has an allowance of $60,000. Latoya earns more than that, without a single hit to her name.
As for caring about Michael. Lets see; at the height of her career, she publicy had his back, despite the fact he paid off a child & his father $25 million, because they accused him of molestation (which although the accusations were not true, is HIGHLY suspect). She did 'Scream' with him. She wore a t-shit to an awards show which said 'Pevert 2' on it. She attended every date of his trial. She attended most dates of the Murray court case. From what I've heard, after Michael's death, she spent a fair amount of time with Paris. There was also rumours that she bailed out Michael when Neverland was being seized. [Edited 7/21/12 9:47am] | |
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First off, Michael did NOT hate his siblings because if he did, he would not have did the Victory Tour was pretty much a Tour he did with his brothers during THRILLER which he really should have did by himself or want to collab with Janet on a song, or give countless money and gifts to his siblings.
Second, Michael was not $500 million in debt specifically off of helping his family alone
Lastly, Michael might have been naive but to me he showed he cared about his familys well being which is why he continued to help them and maybe if that family had loved each other more instead of viewing the family as a bank accounts they would not have went to other places to find it trust or love but if you cant even trust your own family what can you do?
Legacy as in specifically MONEY and the MJ Estate which is pretty much the same. And yes I feel she can do more to protect her brothers from going after his money by not signing phoney letters and just going along with these dumb operations just to get the Jacksons off HER BACK
Those things are a bit different when its coming from your own SISTER. Yes there is a big problem when you SISTER claims you was a drug addict and make inaccurate assumptions and claims that she cant back up with facts or recall. Michael would have never publicly talked about what he thought he knew about something related to his siblings if he HONESTLY DIDNT KNOW, Janet on the other had made up a bunch of stories according to what she thought and placed them as fact and not only that she didnt bother to read the autospy and shes his SISTER. Im not even related to Michael and read that long ass sheet.
Michael wasnt no angel but he did apologize for those things he said when he was younger unlike Joe for example who didnt. She also said OTHER family members made fun of her not just specifically Michael.
Because its HIS money and she is HIS SISTER (why shouldnt she not care?? its not like this is a complete stranger, Michael is HER BROTHER) A brother she claims to have been the closest to when evidently thats bullshit. If I was close to somebody I would care if I thought someone was using him or her for money.
How is that highly suspect?
If the family was bold enough to make the lying claim and their child was really molested Im willing to bet they would not have taken the money and fought for justice. ALL THEY WANTED WAS THE MONEY thats why they did it....
Also, making public claims and doing a song doesnt necessarily mean your close with someone BEHIND closed doors and that has nothing to do with loaning or giving YOUR money or going out your way to protect someone financially. MICHAEL PAID for that Scream video... NOT Janet. Im talking about what she does among her family and it seems like she doesnt care... only when the cameras are rolling to put on that shes so close with Michael when she really isnt.
Janet did NOT go to all the trial court dates. Katherine was the only one that attended all of them.
Janet never bailed Michael out for Neverland. The only time she spent any kind of money on Michael was for his funeral that SHE DEMANDED MICHAELS estate pay her back after all his debts were paid.
If any of my brothers passed away and they needed money for their funerel arrangements I would pay for it not seeking a penny in return. Shes just comes off as selfish to me but how the hell you gonna be selfish with a family member you claim to be close with
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It is highly suspect. Ofcourse it is. How can you not see that. Whether they wanted money or not. Paying off someone who accused you of pedophillia is extremely highly suspect.
Michael didn't pay for the Scream video. The executives of Sony did. I'm tallking about the statement they were making with the video. It was about her having his back, defending him against media, who were acusing him of all sorts of things.
You say they weren't close. And yet you expect her to do all these brother-sister things as if they have a close relationship. How do you know she demanded Michael's estate to pay her? Also, why should she have to pay for the funeral. It should be the parents. Or what about the other siblings. Besides, Michael's estate should be paying for it. | |
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I never said this. I'm just reiterating what MJ fans are saying. | |
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wow you stans are never satisfied are you? so mj gets himself caught up in a child molestation case and janet is expected to attend court every day, you say she never bailed him out with neverland but other reports says she did so how do we know what is true or not. janet never demanded nothing from the estate, why do mj fans have to make shit up, the estate paid her back because like most people he had the funds to pay for his own funeral. you dont know what janet do for her family because its none of your business, she's not gonna make a public announcement every time she helps her family financially. janet paid her father royalties long after she fired him as her manager, when marlon was in trouble janet gave him a percentage of the royalties from one of her albums, reebie has been on her payroll for years which came out during her divorce, janet bought her mom a house in vegas when the hayvenhurst house was in foreclosure after mike took out a second mortgage on it. janet said her and mike was close as kids, she said years ago they hardly spoke in recent years so when did she claim to be so close to him?you cant have your cake and eat it to,dont act like it was a great thing for mj to distance himself from his family then expect them to come running any time he needed them (even though thats exactly what they did).nowhere in that letter did they ask for money or any position with the estate, they feel the dudes running the show are shady and asked them to step down, its not like they can force them out or take control of the estate like crazy fans keep saying they are trying to do.i dont know why fans are so mad about this letter in the first place,how does it affect you? | |
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Damn, you Janet stans just can't get it right can you? MJ fans and the public reaction to this open letter from Janet, Rebbie,Tito,Jermaine and Rebbie was initially about the LIE that was perpetuated in the letter about Katherine Jackson having a stroke recently. The bottomline is that Katherine has NOT had a stroke. This was a ploy used to garner sympathy and it backfired. Even for Janet stans, it should be obvious to you that this letter smacks of desperation. Interesting how Katherine a few months ago released a statment that she has no problems with the estate. Also, interesting that Jermaine said on Larry King, soon after Michael's death, that the estate was doinga wonderful jot and had generated $100 million for Michael's estate at the time. I guess since it was just announced that the estate had generated almost half a billion for the estate, the Jacksons want to get their hands on the money. Do you Janet stans and Jackson defenders actually believe that janet would allow ANYONE in her family to run her estate? Fuck No! This family's motives are very clear. They are using Katherine's health, the "stroke" that didn't happen, to say that she is incapcitated and not able to be in control. Something is very fishy and it is with this family. Of course, you Janet stans won't see it or believe it until it kicks you in the arse. I guess their suit against AEG is not going as they planned (to get money) and they are running scared. | |
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How bout a round of applause? | |
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You did NOT take your medication hunny. It's not about being a Janet stan, it's just about being sane. You seriously need to stop making crazy assumptions.. It's getting more and more ridicuous. | |
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This. Janet, of anybody in that family, doesn't need anything from her late brother's estate. She is one of the richest female entertainers in the world. She loved her brother. She did many things for him when he was alive. "Get up off that grey line" | |
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"Get up off that grey line" | |
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Michael Jackson's mom reported 'missing' in ongoing family disputeupdated 11:38 AM EDT, Sun July 22, 2012
Los Angeles (CNN) -- A nephew of Katherine Jackson reported the Jackson family matriarch missing late Saturday night after her grandchildren were unable to get in touch with her for a week. It is the latest chapter in a messy dispute between several of Jackson's children and her advisers over her finances and legal affairs. Jackson's nephew, Trent, filed the report with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office. But one of her sons involved in the dispute said she was fine and resting in Arizona. "I want to reassure everyone (inc all sudden medical experts) that Mother is fine but is resting up in AZ on the orders of a doctor, not us," Jermaine Jackson tweeted. "This is our mother and her health is paramount. We are not inventing or plotting anything. We are following doctor's advice. Period," he added. The missing persons report follows a letter made public Wednesdayin which two daughters -- Rebbie and Janet -- and three sons -- Jermaine, Randy and Tito -- charge that Jackson, 82, was being mistreated by the executors of Michael Jackson's estate and mis-advised by her manager and lawyer. According to Jackson's lawyer, Sandra Ribera, Jackson left her Calabasas, California, home on July 15, to fly to Albuquerque, New Mexico, to attend a Jackson brothers concert two days later. Traveling with her was her oldest daughter, Rebbie. But when Paris, Michael Jackson's 14-year-old daughter, called her aunts Rebbie and Janet over the past several days, she was told each time she could not speak to her, Ribera said. "yes, my grandmother is missing . i haven't spoken with her in a week i want her home now," Paris tweeted Sunday morning. In another tweet, she gave out her bodyguard's phone number and asked people to call the authorities if they saw Jackson. "The kids were trying to get a hold of their grandmother and they haven't been able to reach her for almost a week," Ribera said. "They are told she's unavailable." "I'm concerned that she's not safe," Ribera added. Jackson has not called Michael Jackson's three children, who have lived with her since their father died three years ago, the lawyer said. Jackson "has never gone 24 hours without talking to her kids," she said. "I'm concerned that she would never do this," Ribera said. "We have no idea what's going on with her. No one has talked to her." CNN reached out to Janet Jackson's representatives several times but did not hear back. Jackson's manager Lowell Henry questioned Jermaine Jackson's claim that a doctor ordered her to leave her home and not communicate with her grandchildren. The sheriff's rhomicide-missing persons unit has been asked to investigate, Ribera said.
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It's impossible that Janet denied Paris the opportunity to talk to her grandmother because she's not even in the states. Janet hasn't been in the U.S. for a while now. She was in Paris for a lot of April/May apartment shopping, at the amfAR gala, and with Wissam. Then in Qatar in mid June with Wissam. Then she has been in Italy for over a week now with Wissam. So how can she be the one not allowing the grandkids to talk to Katherine when she isn't even in the states?
"Get up off that grey line" | |
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And where is Joseph Jackson in all of THIS hot family mess? | |
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Silent like he should be.. Joe Jackson does not need to be making ANY statements... | |
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He's probably somewhere,cooking up his own grand scheme to get Michael's money | |
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According to MJ fans, she has been kidnapped - by her boyfriend.
I don't know which is more absurd, being kidnapped by your own children or your boyfriend | |
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Who said that Janet was kidnapped? I never read that anywhere here... | |
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exactly...I never heard anyone claim that Janet was kidnapped | |
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Hopefully this will put MJ fans' crazy rumours to rest: I will shortly be issuing a statement to end this wildfire of madness..
Making MJ fans' look stupid with their retarded comments.
@CEThomson I believe the 'missing' report was just a move so that authorities can become involved & force to allow communication.
@OMJFU How do you know her life is not in danger? How do you know that isn't what this whole escape act has been about?
@tomclarky @Mjsgirl4Evr The propaganda machine is pumping out that they want money. Nothing in that letter suggests any such thing.
@tomclarky @Mjsgirl4Evr The siblings' concern is the management of the estate, not the beneficiaries of it. Money-talk is a sideshow.
@OMJFU Exactly. The misper report was an attempt to flush out Katherine's location. And it wasn't made by Paris.
@tomclarky Executors make 10% of total estate earnings. $47.5m in 3yrs. Katherine gets $35,000 a month. So $1.2m in 3yrs.
Everything he has said, is exactly what I have said. Glad to know someone with remote intelligence agrees with me. [Edited 7/22/12 14:56pm] | |
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1. Jermaine's jumpoffs come out in full force for his greasy ass :lol:
2. Janet stans are wayyyyy more delusional than MJ fans! | |
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Janet fans don't go around saying 'Michael kidnapped Katherine' | |
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The police have made very clear today that this is not an urgent case and there is no cause to believe Katherine was ever in any danger.
Unbelievable that these nuts sit behind their keyboards issuing orders to popstars they've never met. Seriously. Who do they think they are?
@im_goddess So because fans buy people's records, they get to bark instructions at them on twitter like landowners barking at slaves?
Dead. This Huffington Post blogger, is going in. | |
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The self-righteousness of the fans is hilarious. 'We won't rest until we hear from Katherine.' Who the fuck are you? | |
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Who said that JANET needed Michael's money? The FACT is that she is as involved in this mess as the others who signed and drafted the letter. It's quite obvious that she doesn't need Michael's money; however, her family needs it and she doesn't want them to harrass her for her money; therefore, she will sign and do anything so that her family won't bother HER money. She doesn't give a damn if they drain Michael's money, as long as hers is safe. | |
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SMH at Janet signing that deceptive letter with her siblings and then releasing photos as if she wasn't involved and trying to distance herself from the mess that she and her siblings caused. | |
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^Yep that's exactly what she's doing! See? I'm miles away chillin on vacation with my bf, minding my own business--I aint got nuthin to do with the family drama! MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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