Azz said:

LiLi1992 said:

Paris looks like her mother (Debbie). So I have no doubt that it is the biological mother.
Prince looks like his father (Arnold). I do not like this doctor, but I think he is the biological father, unfortunately.
Blanket ... Well, I see similarities to MJ, but I do not have any strong opinions on this matter.

None of the kids are anything like Michael.

That's how you know some MJ fans are completely and utterly delusional.

Why do you have to insult MJ fans? What kind of proof do you have for your opinions?

Klein? Father? Why would Mj use someone else's sperm? According to the autopsy, he wasn't infertile, so why would he do that?

dag said:

Klein? Father? Why would Mj use someone else's sperm? According to the autopsy, he wasn't infertile, so why would he do that?

I don`t know why ...
but it is not his only action that is very hard to explain ...
In addition, not all people want biological children. Strange, but true.
I think that both parents Prince and Paris - representatives Europoid race. Older children are not only completely white, they have no racial traits of other races, no one.
If you believe in miracles - it is your right, I believe my eyes and knowledge.
Why is Klein? I think Prince looks a bit like him.
I don`t like this situation, I feel an aversion to Klein, but I don`t think that version of his paternity is not possible.

^ I'm not trying to insult you, but are you a conservative person? Many people don't want biological children, or perhaps are unable to. And despite who's children they are, don't you think it's racist to make an analysis like that about stating they have no racial traits of any other background? I'm really not trying to come off as delusional, but would you actually say things like this in the real world to anyone? I have a reverse example, I'm considered "pale" for my race by some people, and sometimes gete mistaken for being half white or mixed with some kind of european, but when people tell me that, it sounds like they are complimenting me for looking other than what I am, and I think I internalized it. My point is, people have made up their minds about people all looking one way if they are of a certain race, but that's a myth, in all backgrounds

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^

What kind of things?

course of human biology is now considered a racist?
Children born in the marriage of the parents of different races in the 99.9% of the inherited features of appearance of both races.
conservatism?? I wrote to you in private messages that these children actually of Michael, they have it through education and the love he gave them. .
I'm not a conservative, but I'm not a dreamer, too.

lazycrockett said:

LiLi1992 said:

Yes, MJ made ​​a huge unforgivable mistake, depriving children of their mother .

Frankly, I fear for their future.

Jackson family - horrible gang.

please like anyone involved has any dna to to kids. Debbie is the only one that offered up her womb and she stepped out of this mess ages ago. Like any Jackson blood is in these kids. LOL

THANK YOU!!!

Sorry to hear this is happening. She appears to have a very strong will, that young lady.

But beyond this bump on the Jackson Family relationship road, instinct tells me that Paris will be the one of those children who grows up into very driven, no-nonsense person. She possesses clarity in the way she expresses herself & appears to have leadership capabilities in comparison to other Jackson children. Out of all the children in her family, of her age, she seems like she will be the one to watch (in terms of achievement). She may or may not enter and remain in show business, but I definitely see her being the one in the future responsible for maintaining her father's legacy, and likely being the boss lady that the brothers and cousins will answer to.

LiLi1992 said:

dag said:

Klein? Father? Why would Mj use someone else's sperm? According to the autopsy, he wasn't infertile, so why would he do that?

I don`t know why ...
but it is not his only action that is very hard to explain ...
In addition, not all people want biological children. Strange, but true.
I think that both parents Prince and Paris - representatives Europoid race. Older children are not only completely white, they have no racial traits of other races, no one.
If you believe in miracles - it is your right, I believe my eyes and knowledge.
Why is Klein? I think Prince looks a bit like him.
I don`t like this situation, I feel an aversion to Klein, but I don`t think that version of his paternity is not possible.

Paris is biracial and very lightskinned at that. lets compare her to other people who have the same admixture. Sofia Richie (white mother and black father) Paris Jackson (white mother and black father)

(East african father and white american mother)

( Rashida Jones white mother and black father)

And BLANKET is Michaels kid, I dont understand how people can even doubt that. His mannerisms, his eyes, his nose, his voice, his face and they straighten the kids hair so it's not as wavy as it naturally is. There are that a south african woman named prudence solomon who was a friend of Michaels is the mother of Blanket.

Her husband and child I believe =D

I think they're going to have their hands full with Paris. Watch and see.

Thank you for proving me right.

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My question is, why do people still argue whether they are biological children of Michael Jackson or not? It could be MJ, it could be one of the doctors, it could be some random sperm donor doesn't fucking matter. No offense to anyone but I can't think of a worse way to waste time than wondering who their biological father is, because it really changes nothing. MJ was the legal father who raised them and that's all that matters. Even if he wasn't a biological father that doesn't make him any less of a parent.

LiLi1992 said:

lowkey said:

those kids should have had a mother, then none of this mess would be going on, blame mj for that. paris need to stay in a child's place,i cant believe adult mj fans are cheering this little girl's disrespect of her uncle on.

Yes, MJ made %u200B%u200Ba huge unforgivable mistake, depriving children of their mother .
Frankly, I fear for their future.
Jackson family - horrible gang.

There's no one right way to raise children, all the single moms/single dads out there who try their best to raise their kids aren't doing anything wrong by not having a partner to raise them together.

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lauralevesque said:

I think they're going to have their hands full with Paris. Watch and see.

I think you might be right.

I don't yet see the child as one who would maybe succumb to the dark side of Hollywood, or be the Lindsay Lohan type---but I do see her as growing up to be a young woman who's going to be very headstrong, and that's going to be a problem for authority figures in her family.... looks like the young lady has quite the verbal iron fist already and she might want to actually rule with it when she turns of age You can see with some children that they are a bit lost without direction, but this teen? She seems very purposeful to me....and that could possibly translate into her being a pretty tough cookie as she matures. The Jackson uncles had better watch out

It's interesting because I have watched some tape of Clint Eastwood's daughter who is Paris' age, maybe a year older, and that poor girl still carries herself like she's in 6th grade. It's amazing how maturity levels can vary from teen to teen.

Ottensen said:

Sorry to hear this is happening. She appears to have a very strong will, that young lady.

But beyond this bump on the Jackson Family relationship road, instinct tells me that Paris will be the one of those children who grows up into very driven, no-nonsense person. She possesses clarity in the way she expresses herself & appears to have leadership capabilities in comparison to other Jackson children. Out of all the children in her family, of her age, she seems like she will be the one to watch (in terms of achievement). She may or may not enter and remain in show business, but I definitely see her being the one in the future responsible for maintaining her father's legacy, and likely being the boss lady that the brothers and cousins will answer to.

You're right. Remember that Schmuley book? He asked Michael if he is more protective of her because she is a girl and he said no cause she can fight for herself while you can do almost anything with Prince. But seeing some of Prince's posts on twitter where some idiots attacked him, I can tell that he can also stand up for himself when attacked, but Paris is something. I hope the two of them manage to survive. They surely seem strong.

alphastreet said:

^ I'm not trying to insult you, but are you a conservative person? Many people don't want biological children, or perhaps are unable to. And despite who's children they are, don't you think it's racist to make an analysis like that about stating they have no racial traits of any other background? I'm really not trying to come off as delusional, but would you actually say things like this in the real world to anyone? I have a reverse example, I'm considered "pale" for my race by some people, and sometimes gete mistaken for being half white or mixed with some kind of european, but when people tell me that, it sounds like they are complimenting me for looking other than what I am, and I think I internalized it. My point is, people have made up their minds about people all looking one way if they are of a certain race, but that's a myth, in all backgrounds

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The common mistake a lot of people make is that they think they can tell a person's racial background by looking at their physical appearances. I wouldn't call it racism, but it's definitely not something you expect from an intelligent person either lol. As we all know, some people would rather believe their own imagination and assumption than just leave it to many different possibilities by simply admitting they don't know for sure. MJ's kids certainly seem to have more distinctive caucasian features but that doesn't mean I can confidently conclude they don't have any african american heritage.

Really, after all, a biracial person resembling one certain racial features more than the other is not that uncommon.

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All you posters make me sick to my stomach.

It does not fucking matter whether Michael was or was not the biological father to his children. He RAISED them. He was LEGALLY their father so its rather irrelevant and has nothing to do with Paris or twitter.

Now I will say this, I appreciate Paris speaking out for what she thought was right. However, she was disrespectful but then again Randy and Jacksons were LYING and they got caught up in it.

Pe

Emancipation89 said:

alphastreet said:

^ I'm not trying to insult you, but are you a conservative person? Many people don't want biological children, or perhaps are unable to. And despite who's children they are, don't you think it's racist to make an analysis like that about stating they have no racial traits of any other background? I'm really not trying to come off as delusional, but would you actually say things like this in the real world to anyone? I have a reverse example, I'm considered "pale" for my race by some people, and sometimes gete mistaken for being half white or mixed with some kind of european, but when people tell me that, it sounds like they are complimenting me for looking other than what I am, and I think I internalized it. My point is, people have made up their minds about people all looking one way if they are of a certain race, but that's a myth, in all backgrounds

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The common mistake a lot of people make is that they think they can tell a person's racial background by looking at their physical appearances. I wouldn't call it racism, but it's definitely not something you expect from an intelligent person either lol. As we all know, some people would rather believe their own imagination and assumption than just leave it to many different possibilities by simply admitting they don't know for sure. MJ's kids certainly seem to have more distinctive caucasian features but that doesn't mean I can confidently conclude they don't have any african american heritage.

Really, after all, a biracial person resembling one certain racial features more than the other is not that uncommon.

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People here are DUMB. These are the SAME people that claim any black person who appears fair skin or light skin is bi racial..... dumbassess

Appearance is largely decisive for the identification of human race. It is a fact.
Yes, there are people who belong to a certain race, but do not have external characteristics, but this is rare, not more than 0.01% according to geneticists (no need to submit it as a widespread phenomenon, it is simply not true ).

LiLi1992 said:

Appearance is largely decisive for the identification of human race. It is a fact.
Yes, there are people who belong to a certain race, but do not have external characteristics, but this is rare, not more than 0.01% according to geneticists (no need to submit it as a widespread phenomenon, it is simply not true ).

Its only a fact to ignorant people In this particualr case, FACT is out the window.

Every dark skin person in America IS NOT BLACK LILI likewise every fair skin, pale etc complexion is NOT white LILI

mjscarousal said:

All you posters make me sick to my stomach.

It does not fucking matter whether Michael was or was not the biological father to his children. He RAISED them. He was LEGALLY their father so its rather irrelevant and has nothing to do with Paris or twitter.

Now I will say this, I appreciate Paris speaking out for what she thought was right. However, she was disrespectful but then again Randy and Jacksons were LYING and they got caught up in it.

You're 100 % right, MJ was the father of those kids no matter what. But I find it stupid that they don't believe MIke when he said those kids were his, black people come in all colors. All I know is that I see Michael in Blanket.

Yep, I think Paris is a strong girl, but she needs to calm down a bit. The jacksons are crazy tho, so I understand her.

LiLi1992 said:

Appearance is largely decisive for the identification of human race. It is a fact.
Yes, there are people who belong to a certain race, but do not have external characteristics, but this is rare, not more than 0.01% according to geneticists (no need to submit it as a widespread phenomenon, it is simply not true ).

What are you even talking about? We're talking biracial people and there's no certain physical traits a biracial person should have. Sadly it is not anyone's fault but yours, that you expected all biracial people of white and black heritage to look certain way.

FYI, our lovely Jill Jones is also biologically half black, bet you didn't know that. Really, you shouldn't judge someone's heritage by looking at them though you do have the right to be wrong.

Ottensen said:

Sorry to hear this is happening. She appears to have a very strong will, that young lady.

But beyond this bump on the Jackson Family relationship road, instinct tells me that Paris will be the one of those children who grows up into very driven, no-nonsense person. She possesses clarity in the way she expresses herself & appears to have leadership capabilities in comparison to other Jackson children. Out of all the children in her family, of her age, she seems like she will be the one to watch (in terms of achievement). She may or may not enter and remain in show business, but I definitely see her being the one in the future responsible for maintaining her father's legacy, and likely being the boss lady that the brothers and cousins will answer to.

She strikes me as ignorant and self-important. Also slightly attention seeking. Definitely one of those children who grow up and fall off the rails. Especially without proper parenthood. Michael was obviously busy very-often, suffering from addiction to the point where his personal hygiene was exremely low (Also, from the trial, I gathered he spent alot of his time by himself in his room). Not to mention, they are now in the care of Katherine, who is far too old to be brining up even more kids.

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Azz said:

Ottensen said:

Sorry to hear this is happening. She appears to have a very strong will, that young lady.

But beyond this bump on the Jackson Family relationship road, instinct tells me that Paris will be the one of those children who grows up into very driven, no-nonsense person. She possesses clarity in the way she expresses herself & appears to have leadership capabilities in comparison to other Jackson children. Out of all the children in her family, of her age, she seems like she will be the one to watch (in terms of achievement). She may or may not enter and remain in show business, but I definitely see her being the one in the future responsible for maintaining her father's legacy, and likely being the boss lady that the brothers and cousins will answer to.

She strikes me as ignorant and self-important. Also slightly attention seeking. Definitely one of those children who grow up and fall off the rails.

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I'll agree with you about the slightly attention seeking. But ignorant and self-important, and one who will grow up and fall off the rails? You got all that just from her tweet? Really?

Azz said:

Ottensen said:

Sorry to hear this is happening. She appears to have a very strong will, that young lady.

But beyond this bump on the Jackson Family relationship road, instinct tells me that Paris will be the one of those children who grows up into very driven, no-nonsense person. She possesses clarity in the way she expresses herself & appears to have leadership capabilities in comparison to other Jackson children. Out of all the children in her family, of her age, she seems like she will be the one to watch (in terms of achievement). She may or may not enter and remain in show business, but I definitely see her being the one in the future responsible for maintaining her father's legacy, and likely being the boss lady that the brothers and cousins will answer to.

She strikes me as ignorant and self-important. Also slightly attention seeking. Definitely one of those children who grow up and fall off the rails. Especially without proper parenthood. Michael was obviously busy very-often, suffering from addiction to the point where his personal hygiene was exremely low (Also, from the trial, I gathered he spent alot of his time by himself in his room). Not to mention, they are now in the care of Katherine, who is far too old to be brining up even more kids.

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What are you talking about?

And Michael's children are well-brought up and you don't achieve that without being a good parent.

NaughtyKitty said:

Azz said:

She strikes me as ignorant and self-important. Also slightly attention seeking. Definitely one of those children who grow up and fall off the rails.

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I'll agree with you about the slightly attention seeking. But ignorant and self-important, and one who will grow up and fall off the rails? You got all that just from her tweet? Really?

I was being sarcastic in response to the person who said - based on a mere Tweet - she was head strong, a leader etc..

I hope this puts to rest, the assumption that Jacksons are manipulative liars, fueled only by money. Gosh, you guys are worse than TMZ. Good day.

dag said:

Azz said:

She strikes me as ignorant and self-important. Also slightly attention seeking. Definitely one of those children who grow up and fall off the rails. Especially without proper parenthood. Michael was obviously busy very-often, suffering from addiction to the point where his personal hygiene was exremely low (Also, from the trial, I gathered he spent alot of his time by himself in his room). Not to mention, they are now in the care of Katherine, who is far too old to be brining up even more kids.

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What are you talking about?

And Michael's children are well-brought up and you don't achieve that without being a good parent.

1) During the trial it was noted that Michael was somewhat frail - he was unable to go to the toilet, and had severe fungi on his feet.

2) I was suggesting that she hardly had a normal childhood. They didn't have a mother. And there farther was the most famous man on earth, and extremely busy, and evidently strugling in his later life (with SEVERE money problems, addiction etc)

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LOL @ Jermaine's tweet. Totally not surprised by it. Of course Jermaine is going to claim this, he's a part of this whole fiasco and he signed that tacky stupid letter! As if he is going to admit that the claim of Katherine having a stroke is a lie And since when has Jermaine been known to tell the truth anyways? Paris lives with Katherine. She sees her everyday. I'm pretty sure she would know about her own grandmother's health and whether or not she had a stroke. If Randy and them were actually telling the truth, she wouldnt have said anything. But they lied and so she called them out. Jermaine is just trying to save face. #TRUTH!

Azz said:

dag said:

What are you talking about?

And Michael's children are well-brought up and you don't achieve that without being a good parent.

1) During the trial it was noted that Michael was somewhat frail - he was unable to go to the toilet, and had severe fungi on his feet.

2) I was suggesting that she hardly had a normal childhood. They didn't have a mother. And there farther was the most famous man on earth, and extremely busy, and evidently strugling in his later life (with SEVERE money problems, addiction etc)

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I am not aware of his toilet problems, but I don't know what that has to do with him spending time with his kids.

Are you trying to say that all the kids growing up with just one parent don't have a normal childhood?

From what the kids have been saying, despite being busy and the most famous man, he took a lot of time for them, cooking for them, playing with them. The kids have said many times that he was the best father you can ask for and that he was a "normal" father. And through the masks, he even managed to secure them anonymity in the public so they could go places. I think given his fame and all that, they had more "normal" childhood than one would expect.

Ottensen said:

lauralevesque said:

I think they're going to have their hands full with Paris. Watch and see.

I think you might be right.

I don't yet see the child as one who would maybe succumb to the dark side of Hollywood, or be the Lindsay Lohan type---but I do see her as growing up to be a young woman who's going to be very headstrong, and that's going to be a problem for authority figures in her family.... looks like the young lady has quite the verbal iron fist already and she might want to actually rule with it when she turns of age You can see with some children that they are a bit lost without direction, but this teen? She seems very purposeful to me....and that could possibly translate into her being a pretty tough cookie as she matures. The Jackson uncles had better watch out

It's interesting because I have watched some tape of Clint Eastwood's daughter who is Paris' age, maybe a year older, and that poor girl still carries herself like she's in 6th grade. It's amazing how maturity levels can vary from teen to teen.

Yes, I totally agree with you. She does not strike me at all as a Lindsay Lohan type , and she in fact, seems to have a good head on her shoulders , but she comes across as headstrong (not a bad thing) and she definately likes the limelight (of course, her father is Michael! )

dag said:

Azz said:

1) During the trial it was noted that Michael was somewhat frail - he was unable to go to the toilet, and had severe fungi on his feet.

2) I was suggesting that she hardly had a normal childhood. They didn't have a mother. And there farther was the most famous man on earth, and extremely busy, and evidently strugling in his later life (with SEVERE money problems, addiction etc)

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I am not aware of his toilet problems, but I don't know what that has to do with him spending time with his kids.

Are you trying to say that all the kids growing up with just one parent don't have a normal childhood?

From what the kids have been saying, despite being busy and the most famous man, he took a lot of time for them, cooking for them, playing with them. The kids have said many times that he was the best father you can ask for and that he was a "normal" father. And through the masks, he even managed to secure them anonymity in the public so they could go places. I think given his fame and all that, they had more "normal" childhood than one would expect.

I never said that one parent equals an abnormal childhood. But it is an aspect of a regular or typical childhood, to have both parent figures.

You can't really go by what the kids say. Their not going to know any different, nor are they going to suggest that their Michael was in anyway not there for them.

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