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WaterInYourBath said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt make this an open/shut case. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

Ummmm, she couldnt have picked up the phone and made a quick phonecall even to her grown nephew saying she was gonna be staying for a while in AZ with aunt Rebbie? A quick 30 second phonecall stating her whereabouts would have prevented this messy drama. And yet why werent they able to get in contact with her? She is 82 years old but she isnt senile. As the court appointed guardian it is her responsibility to look after them. Not go AWOL for a week without talking to them, letting them know where and how she is. But I dont blame this on Katherine, I blame her family especially the two head ring-leaders who are masterminding this ridiculous circus.

NaughtyKitty said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

Ummmm, she couldnt have picked up the phone and made a quick phonecall even to her grown nephew saying she was gonna be staying for a while in AZ with aunt Rebbie? A quick 30 second phonecall stating her whereabouts would have prevented this messy drama. And yet why werent they able to get in contact with her? She is 82 years old but she isnt senile. As the court appointed guardian it is her responsibility to look after them. Not go AWOL for a week without talking to them, letting them know where and how she is. But I dont blame this on Katherine, I blame her family especially the two head ring-leaders who are masterminding this ridiculous circus.

I want to keep reminding people that it was FIVE signatures on that letter-Jermaine, Randy, Janet, Rebbie and Tito. ALL of them are guilty of masterminding this fiasco, not just Jermaine and Randy. The fault belongs with everyone of them and I going to keep reminding people of that. None of them get a pass with me. Their plan was foiled so they allowed a young girl to be sick with worry about her grandmother and not do one thing to alleviate that worry. That is inexcusable and I blame the aforementioned who signed the letter and the others who went along with this scheme.

WaterInYourBath said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt make this an open/shut case. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?) BULLSHIT! No reason not to call or have someone else call the minor children that are in your care.

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.) MORE BULLSHIT! She has said that these kids are NO PROBLEM because they are so well-mannerend, well-behaved, smart. She said that they are a joy to have around. Michael did an exceptional job raising them and being a great father. She is lucky that he basically did all the work and all she has to do is to be there to love, guide and protect them.

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.) The MOST BULLSHIT!! It is not an adult issue to call your own grandkids which you are their legal guardian or have someone else call them to tell them that you are alright, after

5 days of not communicating with them. Don't TRY and insult people's intelligence with that kind of weak rhetoric.

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Free2BMe said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt mean that everything is ok. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

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There is absolutely no excuse for the way that the Jackson Familh has handled this situation. The bottomline is that this has everything to do with the letter that they released to the media. They had PLANNED to perpetuate a LIE and claime that the estate's actions caused Katherine to have a stroke. However, they never anticipated that a young girl would question their LIE about a stroke that never happened and why she hadn't heard from their guardian, their grandmother in 5 days. Why would anyone put three CHILDREN through that sort of thing just to perpetuate a LIE? Even the weak-azz attempts of Jackson defenders can't find a reason why Katherine or her children wouldn't contact MINOR children to let them know that she was alright; especially since she has never done this before. I guess the Jackson clan had to whisk Katherine out of town, on the pretense that it was doctor's orders( which the doctor says he knows nothing about) to get her away before they released the letter to the media. ALL of this was planned in an attempt to intimidate, garner public and media sympathy, in order to coerce the executors to step down. The Jacksons never in a million years would have anticipated a grandchild's action- a strong-minded, concerned, intelligent child- who wouldn't accept the BULLSHIT from her aunt and uncles. I'm glad Katherine is ok, and I applaud and say BRAVO, BRAVURA, BRAVISSISSIMO to Paris Katherine Jackson for defending your grandmother, being concerned about her well-being and most importantly exposing the scam of Jermaine, Janet, Randy, Tito and Rebbie Jackson to your father's fans, the public and media.

i agree. they didn't think their plan through. whatever the ultimate reason for taking kat to az, legit or not, they will never be able to satisfactorily explain why it was necessary to disconnect her from mj3 or why there wasn't a prompt response to trent or the other cousins when they became alarmed after paris' tweets. why did this have to be a federal case?

NaughtyKitty said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

Ummmm, she couldnt have picked up the phone and made a quick phonecall even to her grown nephew saying she was gonna be staying for a while in AZ with aunt Rebbie? A quick 30 second phonecall stating her whereabouts would have prevented this messy drama. And yet why werent they able to get in contact with her? She is 82 years old but she isnt senile. As the court appointed guardian it is her responsibility to look after them. Not go AWOL for a week without talking to them, letting them know where and how she is. But I dont blame this on Katherine, I blame her family especially the two head ring-leaders who are masterminding this ridiculous circus.

That nephew is insignificant. Mrs. Jackson doesn't have to explain anything to that person if she finds it unnecessary, especially considering that is not even her family genetically. Obviously if Jackson is his actual last name, he's Joseph's nephew, not hers. And I've already given reasoning for why she did not have to call anyone else as well.

Yet, aside from that, let's say you're right, and Paris and the others are entitled to know exactly where Mrs. Jackson is at all times, and that it was wrong for her to somehow magically disappear away from them without any notice (ludicrous). In one way, I can agree with that, depending on the circumstances, such as, if they weren't being cared for health-wise (which is clearly not the case at all). But why bring strangers and controversy into it? Why be like these supposedly terrible aunts and uncles, albeit underage and misinformed, and then have to retract all previous statements? That's the part that's nonsensical to me, and what all of this debate is about.

And why is her older brother being so silent (as he likely knows he should be), who is also on Twitter? Is he in on this so-called scheme to harm Mrs. Jackson too?

Azz said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats not true at all Janet fans love ALL Janet albums even Discipline. Honestly, Janets BEST albums are Control, RN, Janet and VR and everything else is just mediocrity. She messed up when she went the generic route. O trust me I know because I have all her albums Janet fans think she can sing better than Michael and that she writes all her music among other delusional things

MJ fans bash Invincible all the time. Invincible is Michaels weakest album, however its not as bad as critics make it out to be. Ive never heard any MJ fan claiming that albums was his best.

Its not his best.

FYI, Janet is not that private and even in an interview she said she gives the most interviews out of everyone in her family, which is true. She said this HERSELF.

Dont battle with me Azz cause Im always strapped and I can go

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So can I.

Janet fans do not think that she can sing better than Michael. Some may have said she can dance better, in terms of the many choreographed dance routines in her videos and the versatility of them. But that's as far as it goes.

The same could be said for Michael. Off the wall, Thriller, Bad, and Rhythm Nation II [AKA Dangerous (Joke ) ]. The rest is mediocrity - awful.

Interviews about music perhaps, in which she actually spoke little of herself, or the same thing over and over again. She only once invited a guest - someone she trusted - into her home. And this was only for a matter of minutes, and there was no snooping around. Unlike MJ and Oprah and Bashir.

Michael has 5 solid albums Off The Wall, BAD, Thriller, Dangerous and History.. Michael didnt release as many albums as Janet has (adult wise) then there is Blood on the Dance Floor Than Invincible..

And mind you this is not even including Got to Be there, Ben, Forever Michael, Music &Me which I feel are very strong albums as well so that makes it 9 all together but I just seperated it because those albums were done when he was little.

More than half Michaels catalogue is strong unlike Janets who has 4 solid albums out of 10 albums. The comparision is very different.

Also, Janet is the most outspoken in HER FAMILY and has done plenty of more interviews than Michael. Michael is WAYYYYY more private than Janet. I can count on ONE hand how many MAJOR interviews Michael has done or casually do things publicly unlike Janet. Michael dont walk a bunch of red carpets or attend award shows or go to strip clubs like Janet does

Janet has went on late night shows, done interviews with Tyra, Oprah, Ryan etc Red carpets, etc... I agree Janet is definitly more private compared to some other celebrities but she is definity the most outspoken among her siblings.

O and I love Janet as a dancer but shes not better than Michael any trained dancer can do what Janet does... but alot of things Michael did which was natural and not choregraphed most people cant do.. Like spinning like a top and the standing on the toes among other things,which to me were more innovative and he free styled which Janet didnt do.

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Azz said:

I'd rather his mother get the money, or even his father and his siblings - the people who he was brought up with, the people who helped him get where he was, the people who had his back when he was accused of horrible things, the people who had his back when he did crazy things. Rather than executives who Michael called 'evil'.

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You know what I don't get? Posters like you seem waaaay overly sensitive to MJ fans criticizing the family, but when you speak up for them, you always suck so hard at defending them.

I used to think am I missing something about them? But then I always see the same weak ass "They deserve his money because they went to his trial 6 years ago" argument used for them and that's it. It's distracting as hell and awfully embarrassing that you never see anything current for them.

After the way i've thrown up the fact that the pubic sees the family as clowns, it's odd you would still post such a weak defense for them.

It's like you're saying, Yeah, they really are that worthless. Even I, a super family stan, can't make them look good.

Free2BMe said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?) BULLSHIT! No reason not to call or have someone else call the minor children that are in your care.

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.) MORE BULLSHIT! She has said that these kids are NO PROBLEM because they are so well-mannerend, well-behaved, smart. She said that they are a joy to have around. Michael did an exceptional job raising them and being a great father. She is lucky that he basically did all the work and all she has to do is to be there to love, guide and protect them.

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.) The MOST BULLSHIT!! It is not an adult issue to call your own grandkids which you are their legal guardian or have someone else call them to tell them that you are alright, after

5 days of not communicating with them. Don't TRY and insult people's intelligence with that kind of weak rhetoric.

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I'm just going to give one post to you, because with your bias and hostility, you are not fit for any respectful, sapient debate:

You're not granting Mrs. Jackson the benefit of the doubt with reasons #1 and #3. Alright, fine. But regarding your reply to #2: Mrs. Jackson is not a liar, but she, for instance, used to also smile with that sad look in her eyes and state that everything between she and Joseph was wonderful too for the media, all the while filing for divorces she relented to cancel several times because of her religion. That's called Public Relations. Exaggeration of the truth, to maintain a positive image, and to keep people out of her family business.

Look at her responses in interviews: She either gives generic answers, "doesn't know," or "everything is good." Why? Answer: Mrs. Jackson, nor Michael would/will EVER say ANYTHING to make that family look bad, regardless of what is actually happening. So, while she may not be sick of anyone in her house (like I stated, that's just plausible), if you really think it's "joyful" sunshine, teddy bears and lollipops around there 24/7, you need to study something called body language and watch Mrs. Jackson's segment in that recent Oprah interview, read more carefully as well, then finally re-evaluate your deductive reasoning methods, 'cause you have been wrong about everything in this matter.

Talk about "insulting people's intelligence"....even though I find this funny, I'm the one who should be posting that.

WaterInYourBath said:

Free2BMe said:

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I'm just going to give one post to you, because with your bias and hostility, you are not fit for any respectful, sapient debate:

You're not granting Mrs. Jackson the benefit of the doubt with reasons #1 and #3. Alright, fine. But regarding your reply to #2: Mrs. Jackson is not a liar, but she, for instance, used to also smile with that sad look in her eyes and state that everything between she and Joseph was wonderful too for the media, all the while filing for divorces she relented to cancel several times because of her religion. That's called Public Relations. Exaggeration of the truth, to maintain a positive image, and to keep people out of her family business.

Look at her responses in interviews: She either gives generic answers, "doesn't know," or "everything is good." Why? Answer: Mrs. Jackson, nor Michael would/will EVER say ANYTHING to make that family look bad, regardless of what is actually happening. So, while she may not be sick of anyone in her house (like I stated, that's just plausible), if you really think it's "joyful" sunshine, teddy bears and lollipops around there 24/7, you need to study something called body language and watch Mrs. Jackson's segment in that recent Oprah interview, read more carefully as well, then finally re-evaluate your deductive reasoning methods, 'cause you have been wrong about everything in this matter.

Talk about "insulting people's intelligence"....even though I find this funny, I'm the one who should be posting that.

See, this is the type of irrational, non-sensical, weak replies that you Jackson family stans come up with. Who said that it was sunshine and lollopops around the Jackson household 24/7? How could it be sunshine and lollipops when her son was murdered, she had to go through her son's murderer's trial, the lawsuit filed against AEG for $$$$, she has grown children, their children standing around waiting for handouts, and she is the legal guardian of Michael's three children. Anyone with ANY semblance of a brain would know that ALL of those things are stressful.However, you Jackson stans can't defend the FACT that Katherine's OWN chilldren perpetuated a ploy, it fell apart, was exposed, BAM! You Jackson family stans also can't deny that 5 of her children-Janet, Jermaine, Rebbie, Tito, and Randy signed the letter that started this fiasco. These 5 pretended that their own mother had a "stroke" when she didn't. When this lie was exposed, they whisked her away under pretense of "doctor's orders", when the family doctor said that he did no such thing. What caused this scheme to fall apart wouldn't have been anticipated in a million years. The concern for a grandmother by an intellignet, outspoken young girl, Katherine's own granddaughter caused the desperation on the part of the FIVE people who signed this letter. They had to do something to get Katherine away becuase they had already claimed that she was "sick" or had had a "stroke". The other problem with their scam is that they didn't anticipate that this same young girl would not give up in her quest to hear from her grandmother who she had not called or heard from in 5 days.

The exposing of this scheme/ploy is the reason for Katherine;s "disappearnce by her own children". This has shit to do with her being legal guardian to Michael's three children. It's one thing that you don't know about Katherine, she is pretty straight-forward when she speaks. IF these kids were giving her trouble or they were spoiled brats, or were anything like that, she would say it. Katherine has told Joe to shut up in interviews. Btw, did you even WATCH the interview with Oprah. IF you did, you would have seen the VERY SHORT segment that she did with Katherine Jackson as they walked into the house. In this very short segment, Katherine told her she was still grieving for Michael and that the kids were GOOD kids and that she loved them very much. There was NOTHING in her body laguage to suggest anything except grief and weariness from what she has gone through since Michael's death. The "interview" with Katherine was less than 10 minutes. The rest of the interview was with Paris. Btw, Katherine didn't even sit down, the "interview" with her was that short. Therefore, who do you think you are bullshitting with your little "body language" rhetoric?

Again, you Jackson Family stans "insult people's intelligence" with your lame excuses for why NO ONE in this family had the decency to have Katherine call her grandkids or even have one of the people perpetuating the scheme, Rebbie, to call. Damn, even Janet, acting as if she was not a part of the scam, could have picked up the phone and told Paris that her grandmother was alright. The list is endless in how this family fucked up this situation and there is no excuse in the world that will placate that.

WaterInYourBath said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Ummmm, she couldnt have picked up the phone and made a quick phonecall even to her grown nephew saying she was gonna be staying for a while in AZ with aunt Rebbie? A quick 30 second phonecall stating her whereabouts would have prevented this messy drama. And yet why werent they able to get in contact with her? She is 82 years old but she isnt senile. As the court appointed guardian it is her responsibility to look after them. Not go AWOL for a week without talking to them, letting them know where and how she is. But I dont blame this on Katherine, I blame her family especially the two head ring-leaders who are masterminding this ridiculous circus.

That nephew is insignificant. Mrs. Jackson doesn't have to explain anything to that person if she finds it unnecessary, especially considering that is not even her family genetically. Obviously if Jackson is his actual last name, he's Joseph's nephew, not hers. And I've already given reasoning for why she did not have to call anyone else as well.

Yet, aside from that, let's say you're right, and Paris and the others are entitled to know exactly where Mrs. Jackson is at all times, and that it was wrong for her to somehow magically disappear away from them without any notice (ludicrous). In one way, I can agree with that, depending on the circumstances, such as, if they weren't being cared for health-wise (which is clearly not the case at all). But why bring strangers and controversy into it? Why be like these supposedly terrible aunts and uncles, albeit underage and misinformed, and then have to retract all previous statements? That's the part that's nonsensical to me, and what all of this debate is about.

And why is her older brother being so silent (as he likely knows he should be), who is also on Twitter? Is he in on this so-called scheme to harm Mrs. Jackson too?

ANOTHER lame excuse from a Jackson Family stan. The nephew is Katherine's assistant who is basically with her all the time. Why the secrecy of whisking her away and not telling and especially her grandchildren. That was cold-hearted and deceptive. EVen if this nephew, Trent, is insignificant, can you stans really justify why these kids were not told about the whereabouts of their grandmother or even if she was alright. Of course, you can't justtify it because it doesn't make sense. The only explanation is that this family wanted to get katherine away to TRY and justify the part of their scheme that backfired.

WaterInYourBath said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Ummmm, she couldnt have picked up the phone and made a quick phonecall even to her grown nephew saying she was gonna be staying for a while in AZ with aunt Rebbie? A quick 30 second phonecall stating her whereabouts would have prevented this messy drama. And yet why werent they able to get in contact with her? She is 82 years old but she isnt senile. As the court appointed guardian it is her responsibility to look after them. Not go AWOL for a week without talking to them, letting them know where and how she is. But I dont blame this on Katherine, I blame her family especially the two head ring-leaders who are masterminding this ridiculous circus.

That nephew is insignificant. Mrs. Jackson doesn't have to explain anything to that person if she finds it unnecessary, especially considering that is not even her family genetically. Obviously if Jackson is his actual last name, he's Joseph's nephew, not hers. And I've already given reasoning for why she did not have to call anyone else as well.

Yet, aside from that, let's say you're right, and Paris and the others are entitled to know exactly where Mrs. Jackson is at all times, and that it was wrong for her to somehow magically disappear away from them without any notice (ludicrous). In one way, I can agree with that, depending on the circumstances, such as, if they weren't being cared for health-wise (which is clearly not the case at all). But why bring strangers and controversy into it? Why be like these supposedly terrible aunts and uncles, albeit underage and misinformed, and then have to retract all previous statements? That's the part that's nonsensical to me, and what all of this debate is about.

And why is her older brother being so silent (as he likely knows he should be), who is also on Twitter? Is he in on this so-called scheme to harm Mrs. Jackson too?

Don't worry Prince is extremely astute and aware of EVERYTHING that is happening. You can bet that Paris does nothing without his approval or knowledge. It doesn't take BOTH of them to go on twitter to communicate THEIR feelings. Paris is more vocal with her emotions.Prince is as intelligent and asute as Paris is. He stays in the background and observes. His sister is the spokesperson for herself and her siblings, AT THE MOMENT. Surely, you don't think this 15 year-old boy is not aware of what his aunts and uncles are doing. You would be sadly mistaken if you do

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Stevie Wonder could be blindfolded in a shoe closet at midnight and be able to see what's coming around the bend with this. If this scenario was about any other family instead of the Jacksons, it would be pretty clear that someone is setting up the framework to have Mrs. Jackson removed as guardians of the children, new will executors are being put in place, and the money grab is about to begin.

Ottensen said:

Stevie Wonder could be blindfolded in a shoe closet at midnight and be able to see what's coming around the bend with this. If this scenario was about any other family instead of the Jacksons, it would be pretty clear that someone is setting up the framework to have Mrs. Jackson removed as guardians of the children, new will executors are being put in place, and the money grab is about to begin.

it's very clear what's going on here.

Ottensen said:

Stevie Wonder could be blindfolded in a shoe closet at midnight and be able to see what's coming around the bend with this. If this scenario was about any other family instead of the Jacksons, it would be pretty clear that someone is setting up the framework to have Mrs. Jackson removed as guardians of the children, new will executors are being put in place, and the money grab is about to begin.

LOL, exactly! It's a shame that the Jackson Family stans are too embarrassed to admit it.

WaterInYourBath said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Totally agree. Its good that she's ok but why couldnt she have talked to her grandchildren or nephew and let them know her whereabouts instead of letting them worry and file a police report?Just because Katherine is telling police that she's "ok" doesnt make this an open/shut case. There needs to be an accounting of why she didnt contact her grandkids and nephew in the first place and why they were kept from contacting her.

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

So instead, she lets these children believe that she is missing. I don't think calling them to say "I am here, fine, don't worry about me, I'll be back soon" has to involve discussing adult issues, if that was the case, as you imply. And if she's resting away from computer and a phone, there must have been someone around her with a phone. The rest of the family must have known through various media and twitter what's going on. They could have called whoever was there with her right on and get things straight. What took so long for them to act is beyond me.

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dag said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Maybe she didn't want to. And for probably one of the following reasons:

1) Old. Exhaustion. (She's geriatric, remember?)

2) Tired of one, two, or all of them. (Plausible.)

3) Believes in parental discretion, meaning, she did not want to discuss whatever adult issues she's experiencing with these children. (Most likely.)

So instead, she lets these children believe that she is missing. I don't think calling them to say "I am here, fine, don't worry about me, I'll be back soon" has to involve discussing adult issues, if that was the case, as you imply. And if she's resting away from computer and a phone, there must have been someone around her with a phone. The rest of the family must have known through various media and twitter what's going on. They could have called whoever was there with her right on and get things straight. What took so long for them to act is beyond me.

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I completely agree with that sentiment, but that did not happen for what I believe to be a valid reason Mrs. Jackson has not expressed. Also, by "adult issues" I meant medical problems, if she is experiencing them. Most older parents and grandparents, that I know of, don't reveal too much about episodes of poor health to young children, to avoid placing burden and/or fear onto them. They DO just say "I'm fine" if they can help it, as you stated she should have done, even if they may not be totally healthy at the moment. And when all is well again, hopefully, everything returns to normal.

These same parents also don't just vanish either, intentionally leaving children alone to worry without someone in the family communicating to them, which is why I will never believe Mrs. Jackson just left that house without telling any of them she would be traveling, regardless of whether or not she disclosed how long she would be gone or where she would be going. That latter part is what she may not have wanted to discuss, which Paris eventually questioned.

But then, of course, if you can't find rationale in any of this, there's always the alternative, continuous, obnoxious, Jermaine-and-Randy-suddenly-get-along-with-each-other-after-20-years-to-steal-money-with-random-Janet-and-Rebbie, mid-daylight-old-lady-roped-and-gagged-by-villains-taken-to-secret-location, "kidnapping" reasoning on every page of this thread.

Invasion!

Jacksons again captured this forum.

Kevin Frasier said:

#ParisJackson danced the night away at her Uncle's concert in LA. Family sources I talked w said Mrs Jackson was just fine and never missing.

Source: https://twitter.com/KevinFrazier

WaterInYourBath said:

Kevin Frasier said:

#ParisJackson danced the night away at her Uncle's concert in LA. Family sources I talked w said Mrs Jackson was just fine and never missing.

Source: https://twitter.com/KevinFrazier

I knew it from the beginning.

LiLi1992 said:

I think the family is fueling the situation, as usual. Work on the audience.

Grandma Katherine feels fine and not missing, IMHО.

WaterInYourBath said:

dag said:

So instead, she lets these children believe that she is missing. I don't think calling them to say "I am here, fine, don't worry about me, I'll be back soon" has to involve discussing adult issues, if that was the case, as you imply. And if she's resting away from computer and a phone, there must have been someone around her with a phone. The rest of the family must have known through various media and twitter what's going on. They could have called whoever was there with her right on and get things straight. What took so long for them to act is beyond me.

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I completely agree with that sentiment, but that did not happen for what I believe to be a valid reason Mrs. Jackson has not expressed. Also, by "adult issues" I meant medical problems, if she is experiencing them. Most older parents and grandparents, that I know of, don't reveal too much about episodes of poor health to young children, to avoid placing burden and/or fear onto them. They DO just say "I'm fine" if they can help it, as you stated she should have done, even if they may not be totally healthy at the moment. And when all is well again, hopefully, everything returns to normal.

These same parents also don't just vanish either, intentionally leaving children alone to worry without someone in the family communicating to them, which is why I will never believe Mrs. Jackson just left that house without telling any of them she would be traveling, regardless of whether or not she disclosed how long she would be gone or where she would be going. That latter part is what she may not have wanted to discuss, which Paris eventually questioned.

But then, of course, if you can't find rationale in any of this, there's always the alternative, continuous, obnoxious, Jermaine-and-Randy-suddenly-get-along-with-each-other-after-20-years-to-steal-money-with-random-Janet-and-Rebbie, mid-daylight-old-lady-roped-and-gagged-by-villains-taken-to-secret-location, "kidnapping" reasoning on every page of this thread.

Saying Paris is to blame for this all as some have said ain't no rationale either. I have personally never stated that I believe that she was kidnapped, but the apperant lack of communication to such an extend is very appaling. I am not jumping to any conclusions, I am just saying that the whole thing that has happened truly is weird.

LiLi1992 said:

Invasion!

Jacksons again captured this forum.

those darn Jacksons! They always get into these big,messy,public relations disasters.

How can you guys say that the Jackson siblings fueled this?

Paris was tweeting that her mother was missing, but apparently was dancing all night at the same time?
Paris (Lied and was disrespectful) created false rumours, which led people to believe they had a motive to capture and withold their own mother for Michael's money?
And Trent Jackson, the person the Jackson siblings are extremely suspicious of, who is working with the estate, filed a missing persons report, to try and smoke her out of where she was, obivously hiding from the stress her grandchildern and the estate are giving her?

Oh, and ofcourse, MJ fans - as usual - who thrive off of negative comments and rumours about the Jackson siblings, ate up these false rumours created by Paris, and spread it further to the media (such as, 'Jackson clan plot for MJ's $$' and 'Jackson siblings abduct their mother'. You guys were also fabricating Tweets from people. Just sad.

You guys look pathetic and silly.

LiLi1992 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I knew it from the beginning.

LiLi1992 said:

I think the family is fueling the situation, as usual. Work on the audience.

Grandma Katherine feels fine and not missing, IMHО.

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WaterInYourBath said:

But then, of course, if you can't find rationale in any of this, there's always the alternative, continuous, obnoxious, Jermaine-and-Randy-suddenly-get-along-with-each-other-after-20-years-to-steal-money-with-random-Janet-and-Rebbie, mid-daylight-old-lady-roped-and-gagged-by-villains-taken-to-secret-location, "kidnapping" reasoning on every page of this thread.

And this sums everything up. It's sad to watch most MJ fans do this.

Oh btw.

The real culprit:

We're told the Sheriff's Dept. is still speaking to Jackson family members to find out exactly why Katherine's nephew filed the missing person report in the first place.

Trent Jackson who works for the estate. But he isn't a Jackson sibling - so he can't be after MJ's money, can he?

And Latoya part II:

yes , my grandmother is missing . i haven't spoken with her in a week i want her home now

Paris Jackson who lied several times, amongst many other things.

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in any case,let's hope that the Jacksons can keep their family drama out of the spotlight for awhile.The brothers are on tour right now....shouldn't they be focusing on that?? Instead of focusing on the MJ estate?

Azz said:

How can you guys say that the Jackson siblings fueled this?

Paris was tweeting that her mother was missing, but apparently was dancing all night at the same time?
Paris (Lied and was disrespectful) created false rumours, which led people to believe they had a motive to capture and withold their own mother for Michael's money?
And Trent Jackson, the person the Jackson siblings are extremely suspicious of, who is working with the estate, filed a missing persons report, to try and smoke her out of where she was, obivously hiding from the stress her grandchildern and the estate are giving her?

Oh, and ofcourse, MJ fans - as usual - who thrive off of negative comments and rumours about the Jackson siblings, ate up these false rumours created by Paris, and spread it further to the media (such as, 'Jackson clan plot for MJ's $$' and 'Jackson siblings abduct their mother'. You guys were also fabricating Tweets from people. Just sad.

You guys look pathetic and silly.

LiLi1992 said:

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I wrote a "family"! You have forgotten how to read? Paris is a family , too.
Paris, nephew, brothers and sisters .... is not important who it was. I am not happy with Michael's family. Maybe they are normal people individually, but together - a pack of jackals.
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Why do you always generalize??
You're acting like a silly teenager.
I've written many times that I do not like the behavior of Paris. People are interested in her only as a daughter of Michael Jackson, this girl has no personal merit and achievements so far. Sometimes I think she forgets it. But she is still a child, you can forgive some weaknesses.

SoulAlive said:

in any case,let's hope that the Jacksons can keep their family drama out of the spotlight for awhile.The brothers are on tour right now....shouldn't they be focusing on that?? Instead of focusing on the MJ estate?

Come on this the JACKSON family.

The same family that cared more about doing a tribute concert than focusing on the death trial of their relative.

They just care about MONEY.

WaterInYourBath said:

dag said:

So instead, she lets these children believe that she is missing. I don't think calling them to say "I am here, fine, don't worry about me, I'll be back soon" has to involve discussing adult issues, if that was the case, as you imply. And if she's resting away from computer and a phone, there must have been someone around her with a phone. The rest of the family must have known through various media and twitter what's going on. They could have called whoever was there with her right on and get things straight. What took so long for them to act is beyond me.

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I completely agree with that sentiment, but that did not happen for what I believe to be a valid reason Mrs. Jackson has not expressed. Also, by "adult issues" I meant medical problems, if she is experiencing them. Most older parents and grandparents, that I know of, don't reveal too much about episodes of poor health to young children, to avoid placing burden and/or fear onto them. They DO just say "I'm fine" if they can help it, as you stated she should have done, even if they may not be totally healthy at the moment. And when all is well again, hopefully, everything returns to normal.

These same parents also don't just vanish either, intentionally leaving children alone to worry without someone in the family communicating to them, which is why I will never believe Mrs. Jackson just left that house without telling any of them she would be traveling, regardless of whether or not she disclosed how long she would be gone or where she would be going. That latter part is what she may not have wanted to discuss, which Paris eventually questioned.

But then, of course, if you can't find rationale in any of this, there's always the alternative, continuous, obnoxious, Jermaine-and-Randy-suddenly-get-along-with-each-other-after-20-years-to-steal-money-with-random-Janet-and-Rebbie, mid-daylight-old-lady-roped-and-gagged-by-villains-taken-to-secret-location, "kidnapping" reasoning on every page of this thread.

Sooo, you actually are gullible and naive enough to believe that it is alright to leave three minor children and not even give them a call to tell them you are fine? Most older parent I know wouldn't do what Katherine did or what her children did for her. This is why I believe that Katherine is not aware of what her children have done. IF she is aware, then she doesn't need to be the guardian of those children. There is no way in hell that Paris would have reacted the way she did IF she knew that Katherine was alright and if someone had the decency to call for Katherine. THis whole thing was an attempt to discredit a 14- year old's exposing THEIR lie. Seems as if the Jacksons did a pretty good job in suckering you stans/defenders in.

Free2BMe said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I completely agree with that sentiment, but that did not happen for what I believe to be a valid reason Mrs. Jackson has not expressed. Also, by "adult issues" I meant medical problems, if she is experiencing them. Most older parents and grandparents, that I know of, don't reveal too much about episodes of poor health to young children, to avoid placing burden and/or fear onto them. They DO just say "I'm fine" if they can help it, as you stated she should have done, even if they may not be totally healthy at the moment. And when all is well again, hopefully, everything returns to normal.

These same parents also don't just vanish either, intentionally leaving children alone to worry without someone in the family communicating to them, which is why I will never believe Mrs. Jackson just left that house without telling any of them she would be traveling, regardless of whether or not she disclosed how long she would be gone or where she would be going. That latter part is what she may not have wanted to discuss, which Paris eventually questioned.

But then, of course, if you can't find rationale in any of this, there's always the alternative, continuous, obnoxious, Jermaine-and-Randy-suddenly-get-along-with-each-other-after-20-years-to-steal-money-with-random-Janet-and-Rebbie, mid-daylight-old-lady-roped-and-gagged-by-villains-taken-to-secret-location, "kidnapping" reasoning on every page of this thread.

Sooo, you actually are gullible and naive enough to believe that it is alright to leave three minor children and not even give them a call to tell them you are fine? Most older parent I know wouldn't do what Katherine did or what her children did for her. This is why I believe that Katherine is not aware of what her children have done. IF she is aware, then she doesn't need to be the guardian of those children. There is no way in hell that Paris would have reacted the way she did IF she knew that Katherine was alright and if someone had the decency to call for Katherine. THis whole thing was an attempt to discredit a 14- year old's exposing THEIR lie. Seems as if the Jacksons did a pretty good job in suckering you stans/defenders in.

Exactly. G-D be with The Jackson 3.

Azz said:

How can you guys say that the Jackson siblings fueled this?

Paris was tweeting that her mother was missing, but apparently was dancing all night at the same time?
Paris (Lied and was disrespectful) created false rumours, which led people to believe they had a motive to capture and withold their own mother for Michael's money?
And Trent Jackson, the person the Jackson siblings are extremely suspicious of, who is working with the estate, filed a missing persons report, to try and smoke her out of where she was, obivously hiding from the stress her grandchildern and the estate are giving her?

Oh, and ofcourse, MJ fans - as usual - who thrive off of negative comments and rumours about the Jackson siblings, ate up these false rumours created by Paris, and spread it further to the media (such as, 'Jackson clan plot for MJ's $$' and 'Jackson siblings abduct their mother'. You guys were also fabricating Tweets from people. Just sad.

You guys look pathetic and silly.

LiLi1992 said:

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Fabricating tweets... and where did you get that she was tweeting granny was missing and dancing at the same time? I have never heard of anyone not having any information about a family member to the point they believe that person is missing. Trying to say that she was spreading this rumour even though she knew about Katherine's state and whereabouts just to get attention is your assumption. Even Taryll Jackson retweeted this:

Michael Jackson Love ‏@MJJNews

I think Mrs. Katherine Jackson, Michael's children and Michael's fans went through enough. I'm really tired of all the drama.

Retweeted by Taryll Jackson

Michael Jackson Love ‏@MJJNews

I wonder if among those involved, someone still has Michael Jackson's, his mother's, children's and fans' best interests at heart.

Retweeted by Taryll Jackson

Notice there's no mention of the siblings. He's retweeting worries concerning Katherine and Michael's kids. And the other alleged "lies and many other things" you keep on talking about have nothing to do with this cuase if we were about to judge all involved based on their truthfullness, Paris would still go out of that as a winner. The siblings are complaining about the estate actions ruining Michael's legacy in that letter, yet the family does not hesitate to appear at any event supported by the estate, so who is here trying to get attention?

Here for example, we've got Jackie, Marlon (who didn't sign the letter), Tito (who signed the letter) and Jermaine's kids.

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