missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

Really? LL is still in the game making 7 figures.................what measurement are u using?

Just because he's making more than Kool these days doesn't mean that LL won the battle. Besides, LL is involved in multiple ventures other than music these days, correct? So we really can't attribute his "7 figures" for record sales. Just sayin'.

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

Graycap23 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

And he did win the battle

LL never accept the challenge

Really? LL is still in the game making 7 figures.................what measurement are u using?

[img:$uid]http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/public/style_emoticons/default/stopit.gif[/img:$uid] right there...

Let's all use our common sense here for a minute Cap...

Sure LL is making "7 G's" or whatever...

But is it from rap? Or other endeavors?

How many copies did his last album make? The one with G-Unit?

I'm SURE that shit ain't go wood, right?

So I'm guessing the 7 G's were from non-music endeavors, am I correct?

Just because he got MONEY did NOT mean he won any battle.

And I go back and forth with LL and Kool and if you think LL won the war, you might as well dream for a cool summer without no heat because that shit ain't even accurate.

"Jack" didn't rip nobody mane.

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Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

Really? LL is still in the game making 7 figures.................what measurement are u using?

:stop: right there...

Let's all use our common sense here for a minute Cap...

Sure LL is making "7 G's" or whatever...

But is it from rap? Or other endeavors?

How many copies did his last album make? The one with G-Unit?

I'm SURE that shit ain't go wood, right?

So I'm guessing the 7 G's were from non-music endeavors, am I correct?

Just because he got MONEY did NOT mean he won any battle.

And I go back and forth with LL and Kool and if you think LL won the war, you might as well dream for a cool summer without no heat because that shit ain't even accurate.

"Jack" didn't rip nobody mane.

It's all good.......I'm just asking a question.

I dig them both.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

Just because he's making more than Kool these days doesn't mean that LL won the battle. Besides, LL is involved in multiple ventures other than music these days, correct? So we really can't attribute his "7 figures" for record sales. Just sayin'.

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

LL is an ENTERTAINER, not just a rapper. Kool was never able to expand beyond what he could do so that's an unfair comparison really.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

:stop: right there...

Let's all use our common sense here for a minute Cap...

Sure LL is making "7 G's" or whatever...

But is it from rap? Or other endeavors?

How many copies did his last album make? The one with G-Unit?

I'm SURE that shit ain't go wood, right?

So I'm guessing the 7 G's were from non-music endeavors, am I correct?

Just because he got MONEY did NOT mean he won any battle.

And I go back and forth with LL and Kool and if you think LL won the war, you might as well dream for a cool summer without no heat because that shit ain't even accurate.

"Jack" didn't rip nobody mane.

It's all good.......I'm just asking a question.

I dig them both.

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

LL is an ENTERTAINER, not just a rapper. Kool was never able to expand beyond what he could do so that's an unfair comparison really.

But that is my point..............LL went beyond where he started.

Moe won the battle, LL won the war.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

LL is an ENTERTAINER, not just a rapper. Kool was never able to expand beyond what he could do so that's an unfair comparison really.

But that is my point..............LL went beyond where he started.

Moe won the battle, LL won the war.

There was no war.

These were just two rappers gunning for power.

They did their raps.

Then they moved on.

But as far as the songs go, Kool won. That's it lol

The best thing for LL to do was to move on because if he didn't, he would've been cast out like Kool eventually did by the powers that be in hip-hop.

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

But that is my point..............LL went beyond where he started.

Moe won the battle, LL won the war.

There was no war.

These were just two rappers gunning for power.

They did their raps.

Then they moved on.

But as far as the songs go, Kool won. That's it lol

The best thing for LL to do was to move on because if he didn't, he would've been cast out like Kool eventually did by the powers that be in hip-hop.

No argument from me.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

There was no war.

These were just two rappers gunning for power.

They did their raps.

Then they moved on.

But as far as the songs go, Kool won. That's it lol

The best thing for LL to do was to move on because if he didn't, he would've been cast out like Kool eventually did by the powers that be in hip-hop.

No argument from me.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

Just because he's making more than Kool these days doesn't mean that LL won the battle. Besides, LL is involved in multiple ventures other than music these days, correct? So we really can't attribute his "7 figures" for record sales. Just sayin'.

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

Nevermind.

[Edited 7/18/12 7:39am]

missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

Nevermind.

[Edited 7/18/12 7:39am]

Yeah just let it be...

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

Just because he's making more than Kool these days doesn't mean that LL won the battle. Besides, LL is involved in multiple ventures other than music these days, correct? So we really can't attribute his "7 figures" for record sales. Just sayin'.

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

I see the point your making here . However, how much money he makes currently has nothing to do with him winning or losing a MC battle..... just saying

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

I see the point your making here . However, how much money he makes currently has nothing to do with him winning or losing a MC battle..... just saying

Interesting. I'll BET $ LL and Moe don't see it this way.

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

I see the point your making here . However, how much money he makes currently has nothing to do with him winning or losing a MC battle..... just saying

Thank you, that's what I was saying.

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

I see the point your making here . However, how much money he makes currently has nothing to do with him winning or losing a MC battle..... just saying

Interesting. I'll BET $ LL and Moe don't see it this way.

I'll bet no money that they didn't.

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

I see the point your making here . However, how much money he makes currently has nothing to do with him winning or losing a MC battle..... just saying

Interesting. I'll BET $ LL and Moe don't see it this way.

And you know what Gray, you absolutely right.

Some rappers view battles in comparing how much money they have compared to another rapper or how many times their songs play on the radio compared to another rapper. ex. Jay Z

but seriously, real talk here Gray... can you honestly judge the quality of a MC battle off of how much money so one makes? What does that have to do with the lyrics of the battle? Now if we were comparing who was better at successfully crossing over and maintaining a career than I can definitly agree with your point Otherwise, the arguement your making is why some delusionally believe Jay beat Nas which is not accurate when were talking about a MC battle.

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

Interesting. I'll BET $ LL and Moe don't see it this way.

And you know what Gray, you absolutely right.

Some rappers view battles in comparing how much money they have compared to another rapper or how many times their songs play on the radio compared to another rapper. ex. Jay Z

but seriously, real talk here Gray... can you honestly judge the quality of a MC battle off of how much money so one makes? What does that have to do with the lyrics of the battle? Now if we were comparing who was better at successfully crossing over and maintaining a career than I can definitly agree with your point Otherwise, the arguement your making is why some delusionally believe Jay beat Nas which is not accurate when were talking about a MC battle.

No, I can't but I'm NOT look at the "rap" lyrics part of the battle. I'm looking at the bigger picture. It's a bad habit of mine.

My friends and I still say to each other (mostly on the golf course - after sinking a long putt), "How ya like me now?"

I loved that whole East Coast/West Coast rap feud. I was firmly in the East Coast camp.

^ Nah this battle between two NEW YORK rappers was much better to me lol

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

And you know what Gray, you absolutely right.

Some rappers view battles in comparing how much money they have compared to another rapper or how many times their songs play on the radio compared to another rapper. ex. Jay Z

but seriously, real talk here Gray... can you honestly judge the quality of a MC battle off of how much money so one makes? What does that have to do with the lyrics of the battle? Now if we were comparing who was better at successfully crossing over and maintaining a career than I can definitly agree with your point Otherwise, the arguement your making is why some delusionally believe Jay beat Nas which is not accurate when were talking about a MC battle.

No, I can't but I'm NOT look at the "rap" lyrics part of the battle. I'm looking at the bigger picture. It's a bad habit of mine.

Nah you're looking at the business, which is not a bad habit, just not totally accurate in terms of how you compare it. I understood your points though.

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

Interesting. I'll BET $ LL and Moe don't see it this way.

I'll bet no money that they didn't.

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

No, I can't but I'm NOT look at the "rap" lyrics part of the battle. I'm looking at the bigger picture. It's a bad habit of mine.

Nah you're looking at the business, which is not a bad habit, just not totally accurate in terms of how you compare it. I understood your points though.

Can't argue with that.

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

And you know what Gray, you absolutely right.

Some rappers view battles in comparing how much money they have compared to another rapper or how many times their songs play on the radio compared to another rapper. ex. Jay Z

but seriously, real talk here Gray... can you honestly judge the quality of a MC battle off of how much money so one makes? What does that have to do with the lyrics of the battle? Now if we were comparing who was better at successfully crossing over and maintaining a career than I can definitly agree with your point Otherwise, the arguement your making is why some delusionally believe Jay beat Nas which is not accurate when were talking about a MC battle.

No, I can't but I'm NOT look at the "rap" lyrics part of the battle. I'm looking at the bigger picture. It's a bad habit of mine.

Not a bad habit, you brought up a good point...I just think people were talking about the music battle.

SavonOsco said:

If you ask anyone that has rhymed that financial success NEVER factored into a battle...which this was back then...nothing about winning a war for longevity or nothing like that...simply rhyming Delivery, words,cadence...lyrically destroying your opponent...nothing more...nothing less...Nothing and I mean NOTHING else mattered....... Carry on

Rapping........4 rhyming sake

Just makes me shake...............my head

Some people rap 4 other reasons.........

Like the MONEY they Make.

Let me guess....he wore signature shades thru the whole interview?

Chancellor said:

Let me guess....he wore signature shades thru the whole interview?

[sarcasm]Nah he actually showed his eyes this time [/sarcasm]

Nah he did.

Graycap23 said:

missfee said:

Just because he's making more than Kool these days doesn't mean that LL won the battle. Besides, LL is involved in multiple ventures other than music these days, correct? So we really can't attribute his "7 figures" for record sales. Just sayin'.

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

What was LL's last project? Didn't his more recent projects fall without any noise?

10 was his last good album that i can remember back in 2002 before he went

making some wack songs on upcoming albums with Jermaine Dupri and Timbaland.

LL is one of the great MC's but Kool Moe Dee owned him from 1987-1991 and Kool

Moe was instrumental in helping LL raise his game from being just another ignorant rapper

with no direction to an all around articulate MC.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

Like I said..........depends on what measurement u are using.

One is still in the game.......one is NOT!

What was LL's last project? Didn't his more recent projects fall without any noise?

10 was his last good album that i can remember back in 2002 before he went

making some wack songs on upcoming albums with Jermaine Dupri and Timbaland.

LL is one of the great MC's but Kool Moe Dee owned him from 1987-1991 and Kool

Moe was instrumental in helping LL raise his game from being just another ignorant rapper

with no direction to an all around articulate MC.

Graycap23 said: