This is the cut.

Marvin clearly took from him and Little Willie John... Just wanted to say that lol

Timmy84 said:

This is the cut.

Marvin clearly took from him and Little Willie John... Just wanted to say that lol

Yeah, it's a shame him and Willie never reached Marvin's status.

He needs an Unsung, as does Willie. But, Unsung has never really divied into the 50s. They rarely do 60's act really. Just 70's and 80's.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

This is the cut.

Marvin clearly took from him and Little Willie John... Just wanted to say that lol

Yeah, it's a shame him and Willie never reached Marvin's status.

He needs an Unsung, as does Willie. But, Unsung has never really divied into the 50s. They rarely do 60's act really. Just 70's and 80's.

Which is why I love that they're doing the Marvelettes! Ugh July 23, please come. I loved how they did Tammi's and Florence's stories too. I'm quite bored with the '70s and '80s artists actually.

But yeah it's a shame neither of them got up there. Especially Willie since I actually think he and Clyde McPhatter are the REAL founders of soul music. But of course personal tragedies kept their careers from reaching the crossover plateaus.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yeah, it's a shame him and Willie never reached Marvin's status.

He needs an Unsung, as does Willie. But, Unsung has never really divied into the 50s. They rarely do 60's act really. Just 70's and 80's.

Which is why I love that they're doing the Marvelettes! Ugh July 23, please come. I loved how they did Tammi's and Florence's stories too. I'm quite bored with the '70s and '80s artists actually.

But yeah it's a shame neither of them got up there. Especially Willie since I actually think he and Clyde McPhatter are the REAL founders of soul music. But of course personal tragedies kept their careers from reaching the crossover plateaus.

McPhatter needs one too.

But I really don't see them goin that far back, (I hope they do though.) There audiencs gre up with Good Times and Sanford and Son from the 70s that's why they're doin mostly 70s acts.

Maybe Magic's new channel will air a similar series as he goin's for a generation before Good Times with Flip Wilson Show, I Spy, Julia and The Bill Cosby Show.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Which is why I love that they're doing the Marvelettes! Ugh July 23, please come. I loved how they did Tammi's and Florence's stories too. I'm quite bored with the '70s and '80s artists actually.

But yeah it's a shame neither of them got up there. Especially Willie since I actually think he and Clyde McPhatter are the REAL founders of soul music. But of course personal tragedies kept their careers from reaching the crossover plateaus.

McPhatter needs one too.

But I really don't see them goin that far back, (I hope they do though.) There audiencs gre up with Good Times and Sanford and Son from the 70s that's why they're doin mostly 70s acts.

Maybe Magic's new channel will air a similar series as he goin's for a generation before Good Times with Flip Wilson Show, I Spy, Julia and The Bill Cosby Show.

I noticed. We gotta preserve our entire history lol

Can we acknowledge Barry White's piano playing behind him in there?

Harlepolis said:

Can we acknowledge Barry White's piano playing behind him in there?

Wasn't he like 11 then?

There is another cat from around this era very similar to what he and Clyde, Willie and Jackie Wilson, ect were doin that also died very tragicly but I can't remember his name.

Anyone know?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There is another cat from around this era very similar to what he and Clyde, Willie and Jackie Wilson, ect were doin that also died very tragicly but I can't remember his name.

Anyone know?

Johnny Ace?

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

There is another cat from around this era very similar to what he and Clyde, Willie and Jackie Wilson, ect were doin that also died very tragicly but I can't remember his name.

Anyone know?

Johnny Ace?

Yes, that's him.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Johnny Ace?

Yes, that's him.

Every time I read how he died, I wished Big Mama had further talked some sense into him...

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yes, that's him.

Every time I read how he died, I wished Big Mama had further talked some sense into him...

I know.

I'm in love with that era's music. Anymore similar artist like that? Reminds me of my grandmother.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Every time I read how he died, I wished Big Mama had further talked some sense into him...

I know.

I'm in love with that era's music. Anymore similar artist like that? Reminds me of my grandmother.

If my grandmother was alive and knew I liked this stuff, she'll freak out (but in a good way).

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I know.

I'm in love with that era's music. Anymore similar artist like that? Reminds me of my grandmother.

If my grandmother was alive and knew I liked this stuff, she'll freak out (but in a good way).

Lol, when I was young I never cared for that type of music and the movies she used to watch (old films like Cabin in the Sky ect.) now I can't get enough.

Etta James said he should be in the Rock Hall

Jesse Belvin

Johnny Ace

Little Willie John

Jackie Wilson

Sam Cooke

Dee Clark

Besides Wilson and Cooke, I literally just discovered those others maybe 2-3 years ago. And I know there are tons more very similar which I haven't discovered yet!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

If my grandmother was alive and knew I liked this stuff, she'll freak out (but in a good way).

Lol, when I was young I never cared for that type of music and the movies she used to watch (old films like Cabin in the Sky ect.) now I can't get enough.

Etta James said he should be in the Rock Hall

Jesse Belvin

Johnny Ace

Little Willie John

Jackie Wilson

Sam Cooke

Dee Clark

Besides Wilson and Cooke, I literally just discovered those others maybe 2-3 years ago. And I know there are tons more very similar which I haven't discovered yet!

I fell in love with this type of music as a child. Maybe because my grandmas and mama would play the music around me. So it was kinda ingrained in me.

Oh god, Johnny Ace is my fave from that era.

Never knew nothing about him, until I watched Charles Burnett's "My Brother's Wedding", that infamous scene where this song was playing, was when I fell in love. HARD.

I made a tribute thread about him couple of years ago, I'm still infatuated with his voice.

Harlepolis said:

Johnny was one of the Beale Streeters alongside Bobby Bland and B. B. King and for the duration of his life, the most popular member of that troupe.

Harlepolis said:

Oh god, Johnny Ace is my fave from that era.

Never knew nothing about him, until I watched Charles Burnett's "My Brother's Wedding", that infamous scene where this song was playing, was when I fell in love. HARD.

I made a tribute thread about him couple of years ago, I'm still infatuated with his voice.

Harp, there is a new Johnny Ace release coming out in a few weeks.

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Ace's Wild CD - Import Johnny Ace Our Price: $16.59 Scheduled to release Tuesday, July 24, 2012 Place your order today and be one of the first to receive this product when it arrives.

Two CD collection from one of R&B's brightest but most short-lived supernovas that ropes together all his solo singles along with sublime piano sessions for the likes of B.B. King and Bobby "Blue" Bland. Compiled and annotated in intricate detail by Dave Penny, the set is high on the lower elements of the battered soul, running the gamut from yearning to regret, highlights including his inimitable grasp of the 'heart-ballad' on hits including "My Song", "The Clock" and "Please Forgive Me", but also jumping R&B outings such as "Never Let Me Go". Johnny Ace was a monumental talent dealt the worst hand imaginable much too soon. By rounding up every recording credited to the artist in his own right, plus his neglected session work, Ace's Wild! provides an overdue, comprehensive survey of - and worthy tribute to - his short but spectacular career. Future Voyage.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Harlepolis said:

Oh god, Johnny Ace is my fave from that era.

Never knew nothing about him, until I watched Charles Burnett's "My Brother's Wedding", that infamous scene where this song was playing, was when I fell in love. HARD.

I made a tribute thread about him couple of years ago, I'm still infatuated with his voice.

Harp, there is a new Johnny Ace release coming out in a few weeks.

Large Front

Ace's Wild CD - Import Johnny Ace Our Price: $16.59 Scheduled to release Tuesday, July 24, 2012 Place your order today and be one of the first to receive this product when it arrives.

Category

Rock/Pop, Blues, R&B

Product Description

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Two CD collection from one of R&B's brightest but most short-lived supernovas that ropes together all his solo singles along with sublime piano sessions for the likes of B.B. King and Bobby "Blue" Bland. Compiled and annotated in intricate detail by Dave Penny, the set is high on the lower elements of the battered soul, running the gamut from yearning to regret, highlights including his inimitable grasp of the 'heart-ballad' on hits including "My Song", "The Clock" and "Please Forgive Me", but also jumping R&B outings such as "Never Let Me Go". Johnny Ace was a monumental talent dealt the worst hand imaginable much too soon. By rounding up every recording credited to the artist in his own right, plus his neglected session work, Ace's Wild! provides an overdue, comprehensive survey of - and worthy tribute to - his short but spectacular career. Future Voyage.

I'm sick of the compilation that I already have, the quality is shot to hell (its from the early 70s after all).

This is def much needed, I wonder if it will be released via itunes though.

His "Memorial Album" should be on the lists of the greatest albums of all time. Seriously that album proved Johnny wasn't just a balladeer but also a great uptempo blues/rhythm and blues/early rock and roll performer. He could make the piano keys wail like Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis. The fact he don't get accolades for all of that is ridiculous and sad. Yeah he died too early but that shouldn't stop him from being recognized.

His playing is pretty effective, I didn't know that he was behind the keys till you guys pointed out, makes my love for his music even stronger,,,,

Timmy84 said:

His "Memorial Album" should be on the lists of the greatest albums of all time. Seriously that album proved Johnny wasn't just a balladeer but also a great uptempo blues/rhythm and blues/early rock and roll performer. He could make the piano keys wail like Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis. The fact he don't get accolades for all of that is ridiculous and sad. Yeah he died too early but that shouldn't stop him from being recognized.

The only thing I remember him being associated even remotely to pop culture was in George Lucas' American Graffiti.

And whenever gets mentioned, his death seems to be the centre of the discussion as opposed to his body of work.

Harlepolis said:

His playing is pretty effective, I didn't know that he was behind the keys till you guys pointed out, makes my love for his music even stronger,,,,

Yup he really was effective in his piano skills. History is so funny. It'll acknowledge a few but won't acknowledge a lot. For all the talk about Ray and Richard and Jerry Lee and the like, Johnny Ace was right up there with them with his skills on that bench. Sure he wasn't as wild as Richard and Jerry Lee was or even as much of a theorist as Ray but he still held it down.

Harp and Timmy, any more similar artist to Jesse and/or Johnny from that era of the 50s who had tragic deaths who's music is as good as theres?

Or maybe not even a tragic death, maybe they just never reached their potential or never had any hits but had stron reputations??

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Harp and Timmy, any more similar artist to Jesse and/or Johnny from that era of the 50s who had tragic deaths who's music is as good as theres?

Or maybe not even a tragic death, maybe they just never reached their potential or never had any hits but had stron reputations??

The only name that pops up to me at the moment is Frankie Lymon...

Percy Mayfield.

Bobby Womack carried the torch in the 70s from him. That man's voice oozed thick honey, but most of all, a brilliant lyricist/composer.

"Hit The Road Jack" and "Send Me Somebody To Love" were his breakthrough standards, but his songbook is filled with gems.

Like Johnny Ace, he had that "singing way down from the rabbit's hole" element going on. Which is right up my street.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Harp and Timmy, any more similar artist to Jesse and/or Johnny from that era of the 50s who had tragic deaths who's music is as good as theres?

Or maybe not even a tragic death, maybe they just never reached their potential or never had any hits but had stron reputations??

The only name that pops up to me at the moment is Frankie Lymon...

Chuck Willis is another artist. Died during surgery at the age of 30.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

The only name that pops up to me at the moment is Frankie Lymon...

Chuck Willis is another artist. Died during surgery at the age of 30.

Yes! He was just on the cusp of stardom when he died if I recall (with Atlantic)...