Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

At lest they never really attempted to dance like Smokey with those choreographed moves with the Miracles.

Every time Smoke danced I cringed. He clearly had two left feet. Like he was going into convulsions every time he danced. Not a good look Smoke. Marvin, Sam and Clyde thankfully knew their limitations and when Marvin did danced (as best as he could), he looked cool (like the dance sequence in "Got to Give It Up" for instance ). But Smoke? Good Lord, glad he didn't attempt no dancing during his solo career!

So the solo dancers from that era.

James Brown

Jackie Wilson

Joe Tex

Ernie K-Doe

Little Willie John (apparently)

Tommy Hunt (that's a bad dude!)

I wonder who else got down we don't know about?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Every time Smoke danced I cringed. He clearly had two left feet. Like he was going into convulsions every time he danced. Not a good look Smoke. Marvin, Sam and Clyde thankfully knew their limitations and when Marvin did danced (as best as he could), he looked cool (like the dance sequence in "Got to Give It Up" for instance ). But Smoke? Good Lord, glad he didn't attempt no dancing during his solo career!

So the solo dancers from that era.

James Brown

Jackie Wilson

Joe Tex

Ernie K-Doe

Little Willie John (apparently)

Tommy Hunt (that's a bad dude!)

I wonder who else got down we don't know about?

I don't know. I'm drawing a blank.

is Little Willie John the character played by Colombus Short in the movie Cadillac Records? i'll have to research his "mysterious" death

Timmy84 said:

^ Sam didn't even need to dance. He and Marvin both had that cool demeanor that still made them men to die for.

No doubt. So Sam or Marvin? lol don't answer just poking fun at some recent threads.

Timmy84 said:

Joe claimed he wrote like 30 hit songs for other artists on King Records but he had to sell his songwriting rights and they usually would give it to other artists that sold more records. King didn't really promote Joe and he bounced sometime in 1964 right after his altercation with James during his so-called homegoing concert in Georgia.

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I don't know if it's much of a beef but Marvin Gaye didn't think of James Brown too highly after Tammi Terrell told him about James' violent abuse towards her. Marvin would say that he remained cordial with James but kept a distance because he was afraid of pouncing on him.

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Marvin had mad beef with Lou Rawls, Teddy Pendergrass and Rick James. With Lou, it was mainly because the Grammys had given some honors to Lou that he felt was given to the wrong individual. Ironically Lou Rawls' son would sue Marvin's son for having his dog leashed on him.

With Teddy, the dude (Ted) practically stole his image (the afro and beard combo), his performance style and even parts of his sound and he dated Janis (after Marvin and her had separated in 1979). Marvin was none too happy about that. Nor was he happy when he heard Janis was dating Rick. At the 1983 Grammys after receiving his Grammy for "Sexual Healing" in which Rick presented to him, according to Zeola Gaye, Marvin whispered in his ear "We need to talk as men. As long as you are with her, you need to take care of her." Of course Rick didn't stay with Janis that long anyway because he was fooling around with Linda Blair.

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Wilson Pickett shot at O'Kelly and Rudolph Isley after a betting game went bust.

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Interestin info. So who is Janis? I had no idea all this beef was going on between some of these artists. I guess I was just too busy enjoy the good music.

datdude said:

is Little Willie John the character played by Colombus Short in the movie Cadillac Records? i'll have to research his "mysterious" death

Nah that was Little Walter.

2elijah said:

Timmy84 said:

Joe claimed he wrote like 30 hit songs for other artists on King Records but he had to sell his songwriting rights and they usually would give it to other artists that sold more records. King didn't really promote Joe and he bounced sometime in 1964 right after his altercation with James during his so-called homegoing concert in Georgia.

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I don't know if it's much of a beef but Marvin Gaye didn't think of James Brown too highly after Tammi Terrell told him about James' violent abuse towards her. Marvin would say that he remained cordial with James but kept a distance because he was afraid of pouncing on him.

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Marvin had mad beef with Lou Rawls, Teddy Pendergrass and Rick James. With Lou, it was mainly because the Grammys had given some honors to Lou that he felt was given to the wrong individual. Ironically Lou Rawls' son would sue Marvin's son for having his dog leashed on him.

With Teddy, the dude (Ted) practically stole his image (the afro and beard combo), his performance style and even parts of his sound and he dated Janis (after Marvin and her had separated in 1979). Marvin was none too happy about that. Nor was he happy when he heard Janis was dating Rick. At the 1983 Grammys after receiving his Grammy for "Sexual Healing" in which Rick presented to him, according to Zeola Gaye, Marvin whispered in his ear "We need to talk as men. As long as you are with her, you need to take care of her." Of course Rick didn't stay with Janis that long anyway because he was fooling around with Linda Blair.

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Wilson Pickett shot at O'Kelly and Rudolph Isley after a betting game went bust.

[Edited 7/13/12 19:26pm]

Interestin info. So who is Janis? I had no idea all this beef was going on between some of these artists. I guess I was just too busy enjoy the good music.

Janis Hunter-Gaye.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

So the solo dancers from that era.

James Brown

Jackie Wilson

Joe Tex

Ernie K-Doe

Little Willie John (apparently)

Tommy Hunt (that's a bad dude!)

I wonder who else got down we don't know about?

I don't know. I'm drawing a blank.

Can't forget David Ruffin too. He did that little Jackie Wilson knee drop raise thing.

Sam Moore used to try and dance, he was better than Smokey though.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know. I'm drawing a blank.

Can't forget David Ruffin too. He did that little Jackie Wilson knee drop raise thing.

Sam Moore used to try and dance, he was better than Smokey though.

Ah I thought you meant pre-Motown. But yeah David was dancing even back then wasn't he?

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Can't forget David Ruffin too. He did that little Jackie Wilson knee drop raise thing.

Sam Moore used to try and dance, he was better than Smokey though.

Ah I thought you meant pre-Motown. But yeah David was dancing even back then wasn't he?

Around that era mid 50s to mid 60s I guess.

The Cadillacs used to do all that jumping and dancing, The Flamingos, the Vibrations I heard were beast.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Ah I thought you meant pre-Motown. But yeah David was dancing even back then wasn't he?

Around that era mid 50s to mid 60s I guess.

The Cadillacs used to do all that jumping and dancing, The Flamingos, the Vibrations I heard were beast.

The Tempts miniseries gave you a hint on just how bad (meaning real good) the Cadillacs were.

Blues rather than soul but I heard from producer Jim Dickinson that Albert King carried a gun, and would pull it out during sessions if somebody did something Albert didn't like. So I'm guessing that a lot of people had beef with him, but kept it to themselves.

I asked how you could do a session with somebody like that and Jim said "well he never pointed it AT ME."

bobzilla77 said:

Blues rather than soul but I heard from producer Jim Dickinson that Albert King carried a gun, and would pull it out during sessions if somebody did something Albert didn't like. So I'm guessing that a lot of people had beef with him, but kept it to themselves.

I asked how you could do a session with somebody like that and Jim said "well he never pointed it AT ME."

Chris Brown and Drake.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

Which one has the "soul"? aha

Dee1991 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

Which one has the "soul"? aha

Chris Brown.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Dee1991 said:

Which one has the "soul"? aha

Chris Brown.

Soul as really lost it's meaning. Just jiving.

Dee1991 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown.

Soul as really lost it's meaning. Just jiving.

You obviously haven't heard Look At Me Now. More soulful than JB himself!

smoothcriminal12 said:

Dee1991 said:

Soul as really lost it's meaning. Just jiving.

You obviously haven't heard Look At Me Now. More soulful than JB himself!

Exactly aha That bass line would leave James hopeless.

Dee1991 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

You obviously haven't heard Look At Me Now. More soulful than JB himself!

Exactly aha That bass line would leave James hopeless.

Timmy84 said:

2elijah said:

Interestin info. So who is Janis? I had no idea all this beef was going on between some of these artists. I guess I was just too busy enjoy the good music.

Janis Hunter-Gaye.

Thanks Timmy. I've never heard of her, but like I said, who knew all that beef was going on with all the good music artists back then was putting out? Amazing what you learn years later.

2elijah said:

Timmy84 said:

Janis Hunter-Gaye.

Thanks Timmy. I've never heard of her, but like I said, who knew all that beef was going on with all the good music artists back then was putting out? Amazing what you learn years later.

True.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

purplethunder3121 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Chris Brown and Drake.

bobzilla77 said:

Blues rather than soul but I heard from producer Jim Dickinson that Albert King carried a gun, and would pull it out during sessions if somebody did something Albert didn't like. So I'm guessing that a lot of people had beef with him, but kept it to themselves.

I asked how you could do a session with somebody like that and Jim said "well he never pointed it AT ME."

I could see ALbert ...

"mothafucka was that a c#?"

LittleBLUECorvette said:

bobzilla77 said:

Blues rather than soul but I heard from producer Jim Dickinson that Albert King carried a gun, and would pull it out during sessions if somebody did something Albert didn't like. So I'm guessing that a lot of people had beef with him, but kept it to themselves.

I asked how you could do a session with somebody like that and Jim said "well he never pointed it AT ME."

I could see ALbert ...

"mothafucka was that a c#?"