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Frank Ocean Opens Tour with Prince's When You Were Mine

July 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Frank Ocean sticks to the music in Seattle tour kick-off


Video by Ambiguous Reason; more here

Thumbnail image for frank ocean showbox 1.jpg
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"Bad Religion" was the song of the evening at the Frank Ocean concert Friday night at Showbox at the Market, the highlight of an auspicious start to a tour promoting the Los Angeles-via-New Orleans R&B singer's new album "Channel Orange."

The sold-out house sang every word to the unrequited love ballad — an impressive feat, since the album is not fully out yet, released just a few days ago on the Internet and due in physical retail stores this Tuesday. Anticipating Ocean's pained falsetto toward the end, the crowd screamed when he nailed the note.

Ocean hardly spoke at all between songs. He barely registered that he knew he was in Seattle and never once mentioned the considerable media attention surrounding the blog post he wrote last week on frankocean.tumblr.com about loving another man (who never loved him back) when Ocean was 19. Even if it shouldn't, that detail changes everything for the singer — especially the meaning of the "Bad Religion" lyric, "I could never make him love me." Rather than address it literally, Ocean let his blog post function as a literary device, giving subtext to his story-songs.

Musically, the show was perfect. Ocean was a little physically awkward — elbows pinned to his body as if concealing armpit sweat — but sang precisely and with great emotion, perhaps trying to make sure everything was music-focused.

But the thought on the blog post loomed again in the concert-opening cover of Prince's "When You Were Mine," which came out in 1980, before 24-year-old Ocean was born., with Prince's lyric, "He was there/sleeping in between the two of us."

That was the way of the whole concert — never blunt, but rather swirling and indistinct, raising questions. In his song "Pyramids," is the pyramid a prostitution scheme? Is slavery involved? Moving between genres, he sang between notes and moved through chords by half-steps, all the while offering something conceptual to mull over.

Who could blame him for not wanting to elaborate on his personal life, after getting boxed-in by headlines like the Chicago Sun-Times' "R&B Star Frank Ocean makes media waves with admission he's gay"? Ocean never used "gay" or any label in his blog post. And since he's such a writerly artist, it's unlikely that was an accident.

But the main story still was the unspoken one: Ocean's Internet sharing about his love life changing his music and the staunchly heteronormative genre of modern R&B.

Of local interest: The show's music director was the producer Malay, from Bellingham, Wash., who wrote virtually all of "Channel Orange" with Ocean; the piano player was Seattle/Tacoma's Buddy Ross.

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Reply #1 posted 07/14/12 2:37pm

Pr1nceQuik

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Thank you Based Frank Ocean for covering this all time classic tune.

Be glad that you are Free, Free to change your mind. Free to go almost anywhere anytime
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Reply #2 posted 07/14/12 2:42pm

Azz

Milking a dry cow...

But the thought on the blog post loomed again in the concert-opening cover of Prince's "When You Were Mine," which came out in 1980, before 24-year-old Ocean was born., with Prince's lyric, "He was there/sleeping in between the two of us."


Is there any video footage?

[Edited 7/14/12 14:43pm]

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Reply #3 posted 07/14/12 3:39pm

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Azz said:

Milking a dry cow...

But the thought on the blog post loomed again in the concert-opening cover of Prince's "When You Were Mine," which came out in 1980, before 24-year-old Ocean was born., with Prince's lyric, "He was there/sleeping in between the two of us."


Is there any video footage?

[Edited 7/14/12 14:43pm]

It happens to be his favoite song... I haven't found any footage of it yet but i'll be sure to record it when i see him on the 26th here in NY

Top 10// Reasons Why Frank Ocean Wins

I’ve decided to start a new series just to add more variety to my posts. The Top 10 is going to be a themed list, generally on something that I’ve been thinking about lately.

I think it’ll be cool to try out, and hopefully for you to read.

The first one is on Frank Ocean with ten reasons why he’s the man. Check it out below:

  1. Nostalgia, Ultra is better than any official album released this year.
  2. He dreamt his name. Oceans legal name is Christopher Breaux
  3. He’s a real lyricist – The imagery in ‘Thinking Bout You’, The story of ‘There Will Be Tears’, The emotion captured in ‘Swim Good’,ect.
  4. That being said, ‘Swim Good’.
  5. He sampled Coldplay and made it better.
  6. His favorite song is Prince’s ‘When You Were Mine.’
  7. Pharrell says he’s “the black James Taylor”.
  8. His drive to be different.
  9. He wrote ‘Miss You.’
  10. “Sweet baby Jesus.”
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Reply #4 posted 07/14/12 3:53pm

silkman

banks said:

July 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM




Frank Ocean sticks to the music in Seattle tour kick-off






Video by Ambiguous Reason; more here


Thumbnail image for frank ocean showbox 1.jpg
Photos by me


"Bad Religion" was the song of the evening at the Frank Ocean concert Friday night at Showbox at the Market, the highlight of an auspicious start to a tour promoting the Los Angeles-via-New Orleans R&B singer's new album "Channel Orange."


The sold-out house sang every word to the unrequited love ballad — an impressive feat, since the album is not fully out yet, released just a few days ago on the Internet and due in physical retail stores this Tuesday. Anticipating Ocean's pained falsetto toward the end, the crowd screamed when he nailed the note.


Ocean hardly spoke at all between songs. He barely registered that he knew he was in Seattle and never once mentioned the considerable media attention surrounding the blog post he wrote last week on frankocean.tumblr.com about loving another man (who never loved him back) when Ocean was 19. Even if it shouldn't, that detail changes everything for the singer — especially the meaning of the "Bad Religion" lyric, "I could never make him love me." Rather than address it literally, Ocean let his blog post function as a literary device, giving subtext to his story-songs.


Musically, the show was perfect. Ocean was a little physically awkward — elbows pinned to his body as if concealing armpit sweat — but sang precisely and with great emotion, perhaps trying to make sure everything was music-focused.


But the thought on the blog post loomed again in the concert-opening cover of Prince's "When You Were Mine," which came out in 1980, before 24-year-old Ocean was born., with Prince's lyric, "He was there/sleeping in between the two of us."


That was the way of the whole concert — never blunt, but rather swirling and indistinct, raising questions. In his song "Pyramids," is the pyramid a prostitution scheme? Is slavery involved? Moving between genres, he sang between notes and moved through chords by half-steps, all the while offering something conceptual to mull over.


Who could blame him for not wanting to elaborate on his personal life, after getting boxed-in by headlines like the Chicago Sun-Times' "R&B Star Frank Ocean makes media waves with admission he's gay"? Ocean never used "gay" or any label in his blog post. And since he's such a writerly artist, it's unlikely that was an accident.


But the main story still was the unspoken one: Ocean's Internet sharing about his love life changing his music and the staunchly heteronormative genre of modern R&B.


Of local interest: The show's music director was the producer Malay, from Bellingham, Wash., who wrote virtually all of "Channel Orange" with Ocean; the piano player was Seattle/Tacoma's Buddy Ross.


frank ocean showbox.JPG







Were you at the Seattle show ? I wanted to go, but when i found he was coming, it was too late. Show was sold out. cry fit mad
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Reply #5 posted 07/14/12 4:01pm

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Another thread on him again neutral
Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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Reply #6 posted 07/14/12 4:11pm

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getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Stay mad. evillol

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Reply #7 posted 07/14/12 4:16pm

Azz

banks said:

Azz said:

Milking a dry cow...


Is there any video footage?

[Edited 7/14/12 14:43pm]

It happens to be his favoite song... I haven't found any footage of it yet but i'll be sure to record it when i see him on the 26th here in NY

Top 10// Reasons Why Frank Ocean Wins

I’ve decided to start a new series just to add more variety to my posts. The Top 10 is going to be a themed list, generally on something that I’ve been thinking about lately.

I think it’ll be cool to try out, and hopefully for you to read.

The first one is on Frank Ocean with ten reasons why he’s the man. Check it out below:

  1. Nostalgia, Ultra is better than any official album released this year.
  2. He dreamt his name. Oceans legal name is Christopher Breaux
  3. He’s a real lyricist – The imagery in ‘Thinking Bout You’, The story of ‘There Will Be Tears’, The emotion captured in ‘Swim Good’,ect.
  4. That being said, ‘Swim Good’.
  5. He sampled Coldplay and made it better.
  6. His favorite song is Prince’s ‘When You Were Mine.’
  7. Pharrell says he’s “the black James Taylor”.
  8. His drive to be different.
  9. He wrote ‘Miss You.’
  10. “Sweet baby Jesus.”

I'm actually coming round to like his album more and more...

Btw, I think striving to be different, is wrong. You either are or you aren't. People like Lady Gaga just aren't impressive.

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Reply #8 posted 07/14/12 4:17pm

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silkman said:

banks said:

July 14, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Frank Ocean sticks to the music in Seattle tour kick-off


Video by Ambiguous Reason; more here

Thumbnail image for frank ocean showbox 1.jpg
Photos by me

"Bad Religion" was the song of the evening at the Frank Ocean concert Friday night at Showbox at the Market, the highlight of an auspicious start to a tour promoting the Los Angeles-via-New Orleans R&B singer's new album "Channel Orange."

The sold-out house sang every word to the unrequited love ballad — an impressive feat, since the album is not fully out yet, released just a few days ago on the Internet and due in physical retail stores this Tuesday. Anticipating Ocean's pained falsetto toward the end, the crowd screamed when he nailed the note.

Ocean hardly spoke at all between songs. He barely registered that he knew he was in Seattle and never once mentioned the considerable media attention surrounding the blog post he wrote last week on frankocean.tumblr.com about loving another man (who never loved him back) when Ocean was 19. Even if it shouldn't, that detail changes everything for the singer — especially the meaning of the "Bad Religion" lyric, "I could never make him love me." Rather than address it literally, Ocean let his blog post function as a literary device, giving subtext to his story-songs.

Musically, the show was perfect. Ocean was a little physically awkward — elbows pinned to his body as if concealing armpit sweat — but sang precisely and with great emotion, perhaps trying to make sure everything was music-focused.

But the thought on the blog post loomed again in the concert-opening cover of Prince's "When You Were Mine," which came out in 1980, before 24-year-old Ocean was born., with Prince's lyric, "He was there/sleeping in between the two of us."

That was the way of the whole concert — never blunt, but rather swirling and indistinct, raising questions. In his song "Pyramids," is the pyramid a prostitution scheme? Is slavery involved? Moving between genres, he sang between notes and moved through chords by half-steps, all the while offering something conceptual to mull over.

Who could blame him for not wanting to elaborate on his personal life, after getting boxed-in by headlines like the Chicago Sun-Times' "R&B Star Frank Ocean makes media waves with admission he's gay"? Ocean never used "gay" or any label in his blog post. And since he's such a writerly artist, it's unlikely that was an accident.

But the main story still was the unspoken one: Ocean's Internet sharing about his love life changing his music and the staunchly heteronormative genre of modern R&B.

Of local interest: The show's music director was the producer Malay, from Bellingham, Wash., who wrote virtually all of "Channel Orange" with Ocean; the piano player was Seattle/Tacoma's Buddy Ross.

frank ocean showbox.JPG

Were you at the Seattle show ? I wanted to go, but when i found he was coming, it was too late. Show was sold out. cry fit mad

nah.. i live in nyc.

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Reply #9 posted 07/14/12 4:42pm

mjscarousal

Glad he got good reviews! I wish their was a link to the cover he did.

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Reply #10 posted 07/14/12 5:06pm

2020

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getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Yeah...this Ocean stuff has gotta stop!

The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
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Reply #11 posted 07/14/12 5:07pm

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2020 said:

getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Yeah...this Ocean stuff has gotta stop!

falloff

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Reply #12 posted 07/14/12 5:27pm

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2020 said:

getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Yeah...this Ocean stuff has gotta stop!

shrug Good music stays winning and y'all get mad when it blows up. evillol

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Reply #13 posted 07/14/12 5:29pm

silkman

Wow,Washington state cats backed him up. Go WASHINGTON !!!!! lol !!!
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Reply #14 posted 07/14/12 6:11pm

babybugz

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smoothcriminal12 said:

2020 said:

Yeah...this Ocean stuff has gotta stop!

shrug Good music stays winning and y'all get mad when it blows up. evillol

Wow that stan is showing in you falloff

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Reply #15 posted 07/14/12 6:32pm

CynicKill

I've listened to clips from his Seattle show and he sounds good.

People don't like his voice but I think he's pretty smooth. There were definitely some Stevie moments during his Fallon performance but all people could focus on was the one note he was pitchy on.

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Reply #16 posted 07/14/12 7:00pm

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babybugz said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

shrug Good music stays winning and y'all get mad when it blows up. evillol

Wow that stan is showing in you falloff

Bugz you know I'm trying to piss people off. evillol It's not as serious as it seems. evillol

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Reply #17 posted 07/14/12 7:32pm

aardvark15

I'm telling you. My thread needs to be stickied lol

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Reply #18 posted 07/14/12 7:36pm

neonlights

getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Right falloff Suddenly, everyone is a Frank fan but just a few weeks ago there were zero threads on him.

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Reply #19 posted 07/14/12 7:37pm

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neonlights said:

getxxxx said:

Another thread on him again neutral

Right falloff Suddenly, everyone is a Frank fan but just a few weeks ago there were zero threads on him.

There were a few but nobody but a few of us posted in them.

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Reply #20 posted 07/14/12 7:37pm

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Gaga had a sticky during the born this way hype .. Frank might as well for the Channel Orange hype lol

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Reply #21 posted 07/14/12 7:40pm

aardvark15

babybugz said:

Gaga had a sticky during the born this way hype .. Frank might as well for the Channel Orange hype lol

eek Don't you dar hate on my Gaga now talk to the hand lol

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Reply #22 posted 07/14/12 7:44pm

aardvark15

smoothcriminal12 said:

neonlights said:

Right falloff Suddenly, everyone is a Frank fan but just a few weeks ago there were zero threads on him.

There were a few but nobody but a few of us posted in them.

Well I didn't know who he was

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Reply #23 posted 07/14/12 7:48pm

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aardvark15 said:

babybugz said:

Gaga had a sticky during the born this way hype .. Frank might as well for the Channel Orange hype lol

eek Don't you dar hate on my Gaga now talk to the hand lol

For your info i'm a gaga stan (ask timmy) lol But i'm not blind to that album being hyped .

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Reply #24 posted 07/14/12 7:52pm

aardvark15

babybugz said:

aardvark15 said:

eek Don't you dar hate on my Gaga now talk to the hand lol

For your info i'm a gaga stan (ask timmy) lol But i'm not blind to that album being hyped .

Oh it was, I just thought you were using it as a bad thing. Oh and BTW highfive us Gaga stans gotta stick together lol

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Reply #25 posted 07/14/12 8:00pm

babybugz

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aardvark15 said:

babybugz said:

For your info i'm a gaga stan (ask timmy) lol But i'm not blind to that album being hyped .

Oh it was, I just thought you were using it as a bad thing. Oh and BTW highfive us Gaga stans gotta stick together lol

Yes wink lol

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Reply #26 posted 07/14/12 8:16pm

CynicKill

Question:

Isn't part of the fun of this crazy thing called popular music getting swept up in some hype? Especially hype like this, I mean he is THE first credible, out, gay hip hop/r&b star?

Everything is hyped. Adele has sold 50 million albums but I ain't mad at her. But she's not THAT good. She's a good singer but 50 million don't make her Aretha Franklin.

My point: It's fun. So what if I wanna buy 3 copies to help spread the word. Worse artists have been way more successful and better artists have been complete commercial failures. We're not used to this YET?

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Reply #27 posted 07/14/12 8:28pm

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CynicKill said:

Question:

Isn't part of the fun of this crazy thing called popular music getting swept up in some hype? Especially hype like this, I mean he is THE first credible, out, gay hip hop/r&b star?

Everything is hyped. Adele has sold 50 million albums but I ain't mad at her. But she's not THAT good. She's a good singer but 50 million don't make her Aretha Franklin.

My point: It's fun. So what if I wanna buy 3 copies to help spread the word. Worse artists have been way more successful and better artists have been complete commercial failures. We're not used to this YET?

I believe most feel he used his coming out to hype up his album. I do feel he was sincere with the letter but of course him and his team will take advatage of this new found interest. It's not a terrible thing I guess since Def Jam didn't really promote him much but I can see why some are not buying into it. I don't care either way. lol I hope his music will be the focus and not just him coming out because he will become a fad because of it.

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Reply #28 posted 07/14/12 8:48pm

CynicKill

babybugz said:

CynicKill said:

Question:

Isn't part of the fun of this crazy thing called popular music getting swept up in some hype? Especially hype like this, I mean he is THE first credible, out, gay hip hop/r&b star?

Everything is hyped. Adele has sold 50 million albums but I ain't mad at her. But she's not THAT good. She's a good singer but 50 million don't make her Aretha Franklin.

My point: It's fun. So what if I wanna buy 3 copies to help spread the word. Worse artists have been way more successful and better artists have been complete commercial failures. We're not used to this YET?

I believe most feel he used his coming out to hype up his album. I do feel he was sincere with the letter but of course him and his team will take advatage of this new found interest. It's not a terrible thing I guess since Def Jam didn't really promote him much but I can see why some are not buying into it. I don't care either way. lol I hope his music will be the focus and not just him coming out because he will become a fad because of it.

The record company would've been irresponsible not to take advantage of the publicity once they saw it was swaying positive, but they had NO way of knowing.

And I believe him when he said he was using the "Watch The Thrown" model of avoiding leaks by staggering the release dates. PLUS he's still streaming the damn album. If he were that concerned wouldn't he hadn't even done that to begin with, better yet keep the stream up so long?

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Reply #29 posted 07/15/12 1:24am

silkman

See, this right here, i can't really rock with that. Cause honestly, has he actually came out and said,"I'm Gay" ? I don't recall reading any articles where he actually said he was gay. As far as that letter or whatever it was, i take that as he had an experience. Not as someone who's living as a gay/bi-sexual male. I mean, especially if you heard the album. There's like what, two or three songs, where he leads to it(actually, Forrest Gump, could be him singing the roll or point of view, from a woman's point of view ?sorta like what Prince did with, If I Was Your Girlfriend ?). Maybe he's having a little play with words/idea thing going on. Either way, i don't know really lol !!! But,until i see some visual(video proof), i can't really say if he is or not. So, i'm still looking at him sideways, but enjoying the album, without really buying into all the hype around it. Sorry for writing all this, but i've been talking to alot of my people regarding this situation. biggrin


p>Isn't part of the fun of this crazy thing called popular music getting swept up in some hype? Especially hype like this, I mean he is THE first credible, out, gay hip hop/r&b star?


Everything is hyped. Adele has sold 50 million albums but I ain't mad at her. But she's not THAT good. She's a good singer but 50 million don't make her Aretha Franklin.



My point: It's fun. So what if I wanna buy 3 copies to help spread the word. Worse artists have been way more successful and better artists have been complete commercial failures. We're not used to this YET?





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