MickyDolenz said:

Gunsnhalen said:

new Chris Brown & Rihanna thread every week.

I don't even know what Chris Brown sounds like. I've heard a couple of Rihanna songs. Anyway, aren't those types of threads about gossip and not their music?

Yep

Eh, I take the view that if new music is worth listening to it will always be there and I can get into it whenever. I stopped caring about being informed about new music a long time ago. If there is someone current that is making great music I have no problem listening to it but I probably won't get into them until five-ten years in the future. I kind of like to wait and see if they stand up after a few years have passed, plus you can usually find their albums used for a very low price. There is enough great music to explore from the last hundred years so I don't see why I should be more concerned with new music than old music.

I don't even think it is about talent. At the end of the day, an artist either MOVES u or they don't.

Simple really.

Graycap23 said:

I don't even think it is about talent. At the end of the day, an artist either MOVES u or they don't.

Simple really.

That.

Graycap23 said:

I don't even think it is about talent. At the end of the day, an artist either MOVES u or they don't.

Simple really.

That's true.

rialb said:

Eh, I take the view that if new music is worth listening to it will always be there and I can get into it whenever. I stopped caring about being informed about new music a long time ago. If there is someone current that is making great music I have no problem listening to it but I probably won't get into them until five-ten years in the future. I kind of like to wait and see if they stand up after a few years have passed, plus you can usually find their albums used for a very low price. There is enough great music to explore from the last hundred years so I don't see why I should be more concerned with new music than old music.

i never said i was more concerned about modern did i?

I was simply saying that people, especially of older generations never give fair chance even if a moden artist is really good. A Good 80 percent of my ipod is music from the 50's to the 90's & also of the classical era. But i still have that 20 percent from 2000-now. So i want people to like good music in general and give a chance to any artist who deserves whether or not it's modern or 40 years old

Yes..... I have recently come to terms with this.

The older I get, the more I find myself constantly gravitating to music from 30 and 40 years ago... and, I have no shame in it. I stopped forcing myself to check out new artists (unless I'm hired to work with one).... I try to avoid bashing anyone, but I like what I like and I no longer get satisfaction in trying to be hip and current. I have friends who are constantly looking for the next, new thing. I'm not like that.

There is certainly talent out there in the mainstream. I respect it and applaud those who can actually play, sing and write (sorry, the hip-hop guys and producers never did anything for me..even if they do know a "little" music).... but, I don't really buy or listen to new releases from these people simply cause I'm not interested. My favorite artists and records have already been made. There are some exceptions of course. Every once in a while I'll hear a song or see an artist that makes me go "whoa who's that?" I may buy the single or CD but, it isn't the same as becoming a serious "fan". There are a handful of artists post-2000 that I do really like and follow, so I'm not totally anti-new.

This is interesting though... I've only been a Prince fan for a little over a year after seeing him live March 2011. 80% of his catologue was new to ME when I purchased it, but it got me excited and made me a real fan. There is something about what this guy was doing in the 80's and early 90's that blew me away.... Could be the time period or whatever... but, that's usually how it goes. If I start obsessing over an artist, it's usually an older artist that's only new to ME. EVERY band/artist that I listen to on a regular basis was either disbanded, deceased or past their hey day when I discovered them.

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Graycap23 said:

I don't even think it is about talent. At the end of the day, an artist either MOVES u or they don't.

Simple really.

Probably the best responce in this arguement.

This division that is on the org is getting old and very tired. If the younger posters want to discuss newer mainstream music then their are boards, forums, etc dedicated to those artists. WHY COME TO A SITE DEDICATED TO A MAN OVER 50 AND COMPLAIN ABOUT WHY MODERN MUSIC ISNT BEING DISCUSSED??? I will never understand some peoples logic in that respect.

THIS IS IN NO WAY DIRECTED TOWARDS GUNSHALEN

I also think new music gets talked about ALOT here... MORE than what it should personally. So I dont to see why people think people dont like talking about when it gets discussed here. At the end of the day, its not about Old skool vs. New Skool. Like Gray said, its about what MOVES the listerner. simply....period and I for one dont think someone should feel like they have to force themself to like whats current just to not appear like a snob. People like what they like. If someone people want to come here and listen to new and upcoming artists GO FOR IT.. but dont sit up here and insult other people who want to talk about older music since this is the atmosphere of the site to begin with... with all this seniorcitizenship bullshit and people are old and all that childish nonscense. YOU like what you like and people like what they like...

I listen to a little bit of everything and I do listen to some modern music as well. I love talking about the oldies though and listening to it..and learning about the history of music.. thats why I come here. I dont come here to talk about Chris Brown, Beyonce, Jay Z, Rihanna etc. and if some of yall do then your on the wrong forum...

The same goes for that New music thread that has been made that some feel if you dont post in that your not open minded to new music.. Maybe some have checked it out and picked out who they do want to check out further but that doesnt necessarily mean they have to live in there If some want to just talk about new music than they are free to but I just dont get the whole constant bashing of posters who enjoy older music over what is current.. it doesnt make them any less open minded, thats just the music they prefer on a site dedicated to a man over 50 .

mjscarousal said:

a site dedicated to a man over 50

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, especially since newer acts (and Janet Jackson ) are the most popular threads here and ones about old music, except maybe The Beatles, generally don't last long. I rarely go into the Prince section, as it doesn't interest me, and it's too much negativity and profanity there. It's silly though to trash new acts and say they have no talent. If people dont like their music, don't listen to it, it's that simple. Many of the acts who are considered "classic legends" now, were trashed in their time.

MickyDolenz said:

mjscarousal said:

a site dedicated to a man over 50

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, especially since newer acts (and Janet Jackson ) are the most popular threads here and ones about old music, except maybe The Beatles, generally don't last long. I rarely go into the Prince section, as it doesn't interest me, and it's too much negativity and profanity there. It's silly though to trash new acts and say they have no talent. If people dont like their music, don't listen to it, it's that simple. Many of the acts who are considered "classic legends" now, were trashed in their time.

Janet is 46 years old Shes not 50 but CLOSE enough but thats besides the point. The point is people are going to want to talk mostly about older music pre 2000 music primarily on this Prince site and there is nothing wrong with it.

I dont think there is nothing wrong with someone expressing their constuctive opinion either. Just like for example in that Lil Wayne thread. Someone asked what some thought of him and people gave it. Lil Wayne could be 50 years old my opinion of his mediocre music and talent would STILL be the same... People trash P Diddy and Jay Z and their in their 40's. I just used age to bring up the overall music taste most posters here are interested in, not to specifically focus on age.

This is a music forum so all these opinions are not going to be the same but this board looks at people giving their opinion on ANYTHING post 80s as trashing or bashing

All these opinions are constuctive. FYI, there are alot of people that bash Janet here just so you know...

A poster (forgot who they were) summed it up greatly when he/she was like orgers live in their own little world where Madonna/Prince/MJ were this holy trinity that could do no wrong, music has been "dull" the last two decades, funk is dead, etc. So it doesn't even bother me anymore that you guys feel this way. I love older acts, but I'll also admit to liking a couple of Rihanna, Beyonce, Drake, etc songs. I'm young, I need some current music in my life every now and then.

Gunsnhalen said:

rialb said:

Eh, I take the view that if new music is worth listening to it will always be there and I can get into it whenever. I stopped caring about being informed about new music a long time ago. If there is someone current that is making great music I have no problem listening to it but I probably won't get into them until five-ten years in the future. I kind of like to wait and see if they stand up after a few years have passed, plus you can usually find their albums used for a very low price. There is enough great music to explore from the last hundred years so I don't see why I should be more concerned with new music than old music.

i never said i was more concerned about modern did i?

I was simply saying that people, especially of older generations never give fair chance even if a moden artist is really good. A Good 80 percent of my ipod is music from the 50's to the 90's & also of the classical era. But i still have that 20 percent from 2000-now. So i want people to like good music in general and give a chance to any artist who deserves whether or not it's modern or 40 years old

And I did not specifically single you out.

It just seems that there's this pressure, particularly when you are young, that you need to be aware of current music and that it is somehow superior to "old" music. My view is that if new music is good I have the rest of my life to "discover" it.

rialb said:

Gunsnhalen said:

i never said i was more concerned about modern did i?

I was simply saying that people, especially of older generations never give fair chance even if a moden artist is really good. A Good 80 percent of my ipod is music from the 50's to the 90's & also of the classical era. But i still have that 20 percent from 2000-now. So i want people to like good music in general and give a chance to any artist who deserves whether or not it's modern or 40 years old

And I did not specifically single you out.

It just seems that there's this pressure, particularly when you are young, that you need to be aware of current music and that it is somehow superior to "old" music. My view is that if new music is good I have the rest of my life to "discover" it.

Well that makes more sense now i misunderstood that line.

Gunsnhalen said:

Azz said:

What do people think of MBDTF then?

I personally think it is fantastic

It is one of my favorite albums of the last few years, i just love everything about it. From the intro to Dark Fantasy it is like an intro to a film or play & even though rappers i don't care for are on he album.. i like them on there. They come in like a Greek chorus and fade out and i like the way that's done.

The production, the lyrics, the samples & the band playing on All Of The Lights. To me i think it is just a fantastic album.. a one of a kind that is not seen quite often. And it got a 5 star review in rolling stones & 5 mics by the source & tons of other rave reviews.

.But it seems Kanye has been going off on some bad shit lately Mercy sounds like a standard Flo Rida or Chris Brown track and he has been doing more talks about hoes & ass

SMH. It hurts my soul to see kanye release tracks like mercy and so cold. Terrible. And is the kanye site you go to KTT? I'm on there

babybugz said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I personally think it is fantastic

It is one of my favorite albums of the last few years, i just love everything about it. From the intro to Dark Fantasy it is like an intro to a film or play & even though rappers i don't care for are on he album.. i like them on there. They come in like a Greek chorus and fade out and i like the way that's done.

The production, the lyrics, the samples & the band playing on All Of The Lights. To me i think it is just a fantastic album.. a one of a kind that is not seen quite often. And it got a 5 star review in rolling stones & 5 mics by the source & tons of other rave reviews.

.But it seems Kanye has been going off on some bad shit lately Mercy sounds like a standard Flo Rida or Chris Brown track and he has been doing more talks about hoes & ass

SMH. It hurts my soul to see kanye release tracks like mercy and so cold. Terrible. And is the kanye site you go to KTT? I'm on there

Jeez babybugz, can't a young nigga get money anymore?

I actually rather like Mercy.

Terrib3Towel said:

I actually rather like Mercy.

Okay.

Drop it to the floor, make that ass shake.

There's a crack up in dat ass. Did dat ass break?

Put a map up on that ass, that's an ass place.

Put some interest on that ass, that's an ass rate.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

I actually rather like Mercy.

Okay.

Drop it to the floor, make that ass shake.

There's a crack up in dat ass. Did dat ass break?

Put a map up on that ass, that's an ass place.

Put some interest on that ass, that's an ass rate.

Terrib3Towel said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Okay.

Drop it to the floor, make that ass shake.

There's a crack up in dat ass. Did dat ass break?

Put a map up on that ass, that's an ass place.

Put some interest on that ass, that's an ass rate.

He's so corny, but it works on that song.

Terrib3Towel said:

A poster (forgot who they were) summed it up greatly when he/she was like orgers live in their own little world where Madonna/Prince/MJ were this holy trinity that could do no wrong, music has been "dull" the last two decades, funk is dead, etc. So it doesn't even bother me anymore that you guys feel this way. I love older acts, but I'll also admit to liking a couple of Rihanna, Beyonce, Drake, etc songs. I'm young, I need some current music in my life every now and then.

He's right.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

He's so corny, but it works on that song.

Isn't that Bigg Sean?

There's a thousand rappers on that song and I can't really tell them apart.

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Timmy84 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

A poster (forgot who they were) summed it up greatly when he/she was like orgers live in their own little world where Madonna/Prince/MJ were this holy trinity that could do no wrong, music has been "dull" the last two decades, funk is dead, etc. So it doesn't even bother me anymore that you guys feel this way. I love older acts, but I'll also admit to liking a couple of Rihanna, Beyonce, Drake, etc songs. I'm young, I need some current music in my life every now and then.

He's right.

Indeed.

smoothcriminal12 said:

babybugz said:

SMH. It hurts my soul to see kanye release tracks like mercy and so cold. Terrible. And is the kanye site you go to KTT? I'm on there

Jeez babybugz, can't a young nigga get money anymore?

I have no problem with him getting money. Just those songs are trash and he can do better. I'm not antcipating G.O.O.D album at all

That's what happens when people want more money. I ain't heard them yet though, probably never will.

Terrib3Towel said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

He's so corny, but it works on that song.

Isn't that Bigg Sean?

There's a thousand rappers on that song and I can't really tell them apart.

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Yeah, that's Big Sean's verse.

babybugz said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Jeez babybugz, can't a young nigga get money anymore?

I have no problem with him getting money. Just those songs are trash and he can do better. I'm not antcipating G.O.O.D album at all

You didn't get my Way Too Cold reference?

For me to give a new artist a chance, they would have to be one hell of a genius with a mind of the future fully free of the influences of the last 20 years. It would have to sound as if shit hop, neo stool, and trance had never existed because I don't want to hear even one trace of those elements, not even in the smallest. In other words, get rid of all 1990s influences, every single last one of them including house. Even though I loved house in the 1990s, I don't want more of it and don't want to hear it's influence in something new either. In other words, let the 1990s finally come to an end. I mean, they've been over for 12 years now so it's long overdue that the 1990s end. Just erase that decade from my memory altogether as if it never existed in the first place.

I also don't want something that sounds like a recreation of the 1970s or 1980s because that sounds like more like a local band in a club somewhere paying tribute to those decades on a clubs's "retro night" rather than a new band with a new form of music. I want something in the R&B genre that picks up where funk left off and sounds as if it advanced to the next level if the 1990s had never occurred. Either that, or an entire new genre of R&B altogether that sounds like nothing before and nothing present but is extremely rhythmic. Like I said before, it would take a genius with the mind of the future who never had any exposure to the decade of the 1990s to spark my interest.

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mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't even think it is about talent. At the end of the day, an artist either MOVES u or they don't.

Simple really.

Probably the best responce in this arguement.

This division that is on the org is getting old and very tired. If the younger posters want to discuss newer mainstream music then their are boards, forums, etc dedicated to those artists. WHY COME TO A SITE DEDICATED TO A MAN OVER 50 AND COMPLAIN ABOUT WHY MODERN MUSIC ISNT BEING DISCUSSED??? I will never understand some peoples logic in that respect.

THIS IS IN NO WAY DIRECTED TOWARDS GUNSHALEN

I also think new music gets talked about ALOT here... MORE than what it should personally. So I dont to see why people think people dont like talking about when it gets discussed here. At the end of the day, its not about Old skool vs. New Skool. Like Gray said, its about what MOVES the listerner. simply....period and I for one dont think someone should feel like they have to force themself to like whats current just to not appear like a snob. People like what they like. If someone people want to come here and listen to new and upcoming artists GO FOR IT.. but dont sit up here and insult other people who want to talk about older music since this is the atmosphere of the site to begin with... with all this seniorcitizenship bullshit and people are old and all that childish nonscense. YOU like what you like and people like what they like...

I listen to a little bit of everything and I do listen to some modern music as well. I love talking about the oldies though and listening to it..and learning about the history of music.. thats why I come here. I dont come here to talk about Chris Brown, Beyonce, Jay Z, Rihanna etc. and if some of yall do then your on the wrong forum...

The same goes for that New music thread that has been made that some feel if you dont post in that your not open minded to new music.. Maybe some have checked it out and picked out who they do want to check out further but that doesnt necessarily mean they have to live in there If some want to just talk about new music than they are free to but I just dont get the whole constant bashing of posters who enjoy older music over what is current.. it doesnt make them any less open minded, thats just the music they prefer on a site dedicated to a man over 50 .

This is very true. It's like going to a Chinese restaurant and complaining because more people are ordering the Chinese dishes rather than the hamburger that's on the kiddie menu. And as for new music discussed here, Lord yes it's discussed here. That's why it's so dead in this section in the last year. Hell, page one of this section right now looks like an entertainment schedule of upcoming events at a juvenille detention center.

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MickyDolenz said:

I quit listening to the radio around 1990 or 1991, because the stuff they started to play didn't appeal to me. So I took no interest in 95% of what came afterward. It's the same for movies and TV programs too. I just bought people I liked already or newer acts that sounded like the music I preferred like Jamiroquai and Sharon Jones. Since there are plenty of acts from the years I like that I haven't heard, I started to listen to them, it's "new" music to me. I don't see any importance of listening to something just because it's newly recorded or because it's a hit song. It's no different than people who only listen to classical or opera, which is mainly music that is hundreds of years old. I don't say new music is bad, and old music is better like Vainandy. I ignore it just like I ignore downloading, it's not hard to do.

You basically said it in this very post that you made. You just said it in a "everybody hold hands and sing Kumbaya around a big ole campfire" kind of way.

babybugz said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Jeez babybugz, can't a young nigga get money anymore?

I have no problem with him getting money. Just those songs are trash and he can do better. I'm not antcipating G.O.O.D album at all

Yes the site i go to is kanyetothe i think we talked about this. Cause they ahd that Adele thread and where making fat joke after fat joke