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Reply #30 posted 07/05/12 2:26pm

kibbles

Timmy84 said:

scriptgirl said:

well if the marriage wasn't valid-why the divorce?

Because they allowed it as a common-law marriage.

in california, there is no such thing as a common law marriage. i took a family law class about 18 mos. ago and learned that common law marriage hasn't been a legal term in california since somewhere in the mid 1800s, i believe.

in fact, i learned that most states do not recognize common law marriage; only a handful actually have it on their books.

however, if you are in a relationship where common law marriage is considered legal, even if you move to another state where it isn't legal, the new state will generally recognize it. that goes for age of consent as well. in cali, you have to be 18 to be able to legally consent to marriage. in some states, you only have to be 16 (and sometimes younger with parental permission, as i recall). if a legally married 16 yr old couple from arkansas (just pulling that state out of the ether, i don't know the age of consent there) moves to cali, their marriage would be recognized under the article iv of the u.s. constitution, commonly referred to as the 'full faith and credit clause', which basically says states should recognize the laws and legal proceedings of other states. (they don't always do that, however!)

maybe tennesse (where i'm assuming they got married) is a common law state and that's why cali allowed it? or maybe cali did recognize their tj wedding?

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Reply #31 posted 07/05/12 2:56pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:

Because they allowed it as a common-law marriage.

in california, there is no such thing as a common law marriage. i took a family law class about 18 mos. ago and learned that common law marriage hasn't been a legal term in california since somewhere in the mid 1800s, i believe.

in fact, i learned that most states do not recognize common law marriage; only a handful actually have it on their books.

however, if you are in a relationship where common law marriage is considered legal, even if you move to another state where it isn't legal, the new state will generally recognize it. that goes for age of consent as well. in cali, you have to be 18 to be able to legally consent to marriage. in some states, you only have to be 16 (and sometimes younger with parental permission, as i recall). if a legally married 16 yr old couple from arkansas (just pulling that state out of the ether, i don't know the age of consent there) moves to cali, their marriage would be recognized under the article iv of the u.s. constitution, commonly referred to as the 'full faith and credit clause', which basically says states should recognize the laws and legal proceedings of other states. (they don't always do that, however!)

maybe tennesse (where i'm assuming they got married) is a common law state and that's why cali allowed it? or maybe cali did recognize their tj wedding?

I know Tina's from Tennessee. They married in Tijuana. Ike claimed it wasn't valid but who knows if he was actually being truthful.

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Reply #32 posted 07/05/12 3:09pm

Timmy84

This is what I meant by their marriage being common-law: though that law was taken out of California (where they had moved to prior to "marrying" in Mexico), there's a conflict of laws clause that will cause the couple to enter a common-law marriage judging on what state allowed it. So I'm guessing Ike and Tina traveled to Tennessee to get a common-law marriage contract therefore California acknowledged it. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been no reports of their divorce proceedings.

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Reply #33 posted 07/05/12 3:48pm

jackson35

CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT TINA HERSELF ADMITTED THAT A GOOD MARJORITY OF WHAT'S IN THIS FILM IS EXAGERRATED TO SELL MOVIE TICKETS. DON'T LET ME GET STARTED ON THAT I TINA BOOK.

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Reply #34 posted 07/05/12 3:49pm

JoeTyler

that day, the doves cried...with joy

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Reply #35 posted 07/05/12 4:31pm

Timmy84

jackson35 said:

CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT TINA HERSELF ADMITTED THAT A GOOD MARJORITY OF WHAT'S IN THIS FILM IS EXAGERRATED TO SELL MOVIE TICKETS. DON'T LET ME GET STARTED ON THAT I TINA BOOK.

lol Simma donna. biggrin We all know that film was exaggerrated. That's why I don't like it. Tina said the film made her out to be a punk (well she said the PC term, victim) until 1976. lol

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Reply #36 posted 07/06/12 5:53am

shellyk84

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Timmy84 said:

Seeing that picture makes me so happy that Tina got out of it when she did. I'm glad she left before Ike got into crack!

Ike on crack jesus scary taught Timmy

04:19 -- 04:31 think Tina taught he was gonna hit her on camera

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Reply #37 posted 07/06/12 7:30am

Timmy84

shellyk84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Seeing that picture makes me so happy that Tina got out of it when she did. I'm glad she left before Ike got into crack!

Ike on crack jesus scary taught Timmy

04:19 -- 04:31 think Tina taught he was gonna hit her on camera

You can just feel the tension in those performances they did. Tina had to watch her back all the time. eek

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