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Thread started 06/29/12 10:07am

Timmy84

Can we just talk about this album?

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Yes Faith was such a landmark album that George spent years running from but I think this album deserves some merit.

I just think this album in comparison to Faith was actually a more cohesive project. You definitely get why he named his album what he did because he was forcing you to listen rather than seeing.

I know some folks mock George for "trying to take himself too seriously". Hell folks here (some) have derided him and his projects ever since then but all the songs on this album to me were so personal and thought provoking that it sometimes is sad it didn't become a bigger album and that's probably due in part to George not wanting to promote it with videos - which I applaud him for.

But I definitely think this album don't get the props it needs to. Today I can say this album is a classic but I wonder if folks thought George had lost his mind with this album.


Thoughts?

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Reply #1 posted 06/29/12 10:14am

peedub

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awesome album. it would probably land squarely in the mid-20s to low 30s if i bothered to compile a list of my favorite albums of all time, ever.

definitely an overlooked classic of pop music.

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Reply #2 posted 06/29/12 10:25am

rdhull

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That lead single Praying For Time had me hyped. I felt it was his greatest song at the time (hell, maybe I still do). Those lyrics are pure poetry and scathing to me.

I rmmeber seeing a special about Listen with him in the studio breaking some songs down and using Funky Drummer to make Freedom 90 (I think it was Freedom 90).

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #3 posted 06/29/12 10:33am

Timmy84

rdhull said:

That lead single Praying For Time had me hyped. I felt it was his greatest song at the time (hell, maybe I still do). Those lyrics are pure poetry and scathing to me.

I rmmeber seeing a special about Listen with him in the studio breaking some songs down and using Funky Drummer to make Freedom 90 (I think it was Freedom 90).

I think that's Waiting For That Day that he put Funky Drummer in but it said some elements of Drummer was in Freedom 90 too.

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Reply #4 posted 06/29/12 10:37am

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Timmy84 said:

rdhull said:

That lead single Praying For Time had me hyped. I felt it was his greatest song at the time (hell, maybe I still do). Those lyrics are pure poetry and scathing to me.

I rmmeber seeing a special about Listen with him in the studio breaking some songs down and using Funky Drummer to make Freedom 90 (I think it was Freedom 90).

I think that's Waiting For That Day that he put Funky Drummer in but it said some elements of Drummer was in Freedom 90 too.

Yeah, WFTD is the one they showed.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #5 posted 06/29/12 10:39am

Timmy84

rdhull said:

Timmy84 said:

I think that's Waiting For That Day that he put Funky Drummer in but it said some elements of Drummer was in Freedom 90 too.

Yeah, WFTD is the one they showed.

I saw the footage on his Rockumentary when he was getting prepared for the album I think...

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Reply #6 posted 06/29/12 10:40am

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I've slowly come to release that this album is infinitely better than Faith and much more cohesive, perhaps my favourite album that he's ever released.

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Reply #7 posted 06/29/12 10:41am

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His best video, Freedom 90 comes from this album too imho. Damn that's a hot video and still good today. All those supermodels in it, the cinematogrpahy. Yes.

I think that song was the so called saving grace to those who didnt like the trur he made with this one.

I also liked how he incorporated You Cant Always Get What You Want into WFTD.

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Reply #8 posted 06/29/12 10:43am

rdhull

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smoothcriminal12 said:

I've slowly come to release that this album is infinitely better than Faith and much more cohesive, perhaps my favourite album that he's ever released.

Its like his ATWIAD in its conception to me. The no frills promotion, lack of video exposure as much as possible, the left turn from his previous monster album etc etc.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #9 posted 06/29/12 10:44am

JoeBala

Cowboys And Angels is my jam on there. cool Damn 22 yrs. old CD. I'm getting...

[Edited 6/29/12 10:46am]

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #10 posted 06/29/12 10:46am

smoothcriminal
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rdhull said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I've slowly come to release that this album is infinitely better than Faith and much more cohesive, perhaps my favourite album that he's ever released.

Its like his ATWIAD in its conception to me. The no frills promotion, lack of video exposure as much as possible, the left turn from his previous monster album etc etc.

nod I think that was very much what he was going for, even if ATWIAD wasn't his main inspiration.

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Reply #11 posted 06/29/12 11:25am

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

I've slowly come to release that this album is infinitely better than Faith and much more cohesive, perhaps my favourite album that he's ever released.

George was on point and on focus with this album...

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Reply #12 posted 06/29/12 11:53am

TonyVanDam

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Listen Without Prejudice Vol.1 was for George Michael what Sign 'O' The Times was for Prince.

Hell yeah, I said it! nod George was going for genius status. And it's a shame that Sony Music Entertainment didn't promote this album a lot harder.

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Reply #13 posted 06/29/12 11:54am

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Listen Without Prejudice Vol.1 was for George Michael what Sign 'O' The Times was for Prince.

Hell yeah, I said it! nod George was going for genius status. And it's a shame that Sony Music Entertainment didn't promote this album a lot harder.

Sony kept him from putting out Vol. 2.

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Reply #14 posted 06/29/12 11:57am

smoothcriminal
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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I've slowly come to release that this album is infinitely better than Faith and much more cohesive, perhaps my favourite album that he's ever released.

George was on point and on focus with this album...

nod

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Reply #15 posted 06/29/12 12:32pm

Gunsnhalen

I think i have to somewhat agree with tony smile but also it was like his Around The World In A Day to smile

This album was a lot slower then faith.. lots of political songs(Politics as i mentioned are my favorite subjects in songs wink )

And with songs like Mothers Pride & Cowboys & Angels. George went an entire new level, and also Freedom is just a funky as hell track.

Oh and that cover of They Won't Go When I Go is one of the best Stevie covers ever imo. In fact i think George has made some of teh best Stevie Wonder covers cool

I think it's still weird Praying For Time was a number 1 hit. It was an overly politcal song with a video that wa sjust words on the screen. How it managed to get to number 1 is pretty impressive lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #16 posted 06/29/12 12:39pm

datdude

wow, i guess i missed it. only familiar with the singles from this album. the only album have is Faith (on cassette at that) and the Jesus to a child cd single (i was intrigued by that title) maybe i'll cop it used and listen to it in its entirety with fresh ears.

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Reply #17 posted 06/29/12 12:41pm

Timmy84

datdude said:

wow, i guess i missed it. only familiar with the singles from this album. the only album have is Faith (on cassette at that) and the Jesus to a child cd single (i was intrigued by that title) maybe i'll cop it used and listen to it in its entirety with fresh ears.

Yeah maybe you'll like something in it... I mean I get it, it won't be for everybody but yeah try to give it a shot. smile

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Reply #18 posted 06/29/12 12:47pm

Gunsnhalen

90-92 George was on fire!

Not only did he release this great album, but he did the Elton John duets which was really big. He did the Queen live cd & also relesed Too Funky cool

George was not fucking around

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #19 posted 06/29/12 12:49pm

IstenSzek

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so you scream from behind the door, say

what's mine is mine and not yours

some very good, strong lyrics on that album and just a lot of great tunes.

still a bit sad that part 2 was never released.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #20 posted 06/29/12 12:53pm

Gunsnhalen

Why was pt.2 shelved? are any of the tunes from it on Older or Patience?

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #21 posted 06/29/12 12:58pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

Why was pt.2 shelved? are any of the tunes from it on Older or Patience?

Not that I know of... but I think the reason it was shelved because they didn't like it. This result in George filing the charges against Sony.

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Reply #22 posted 06/29/12 1:27pm

TonyVanDam

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Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Why was pt.2 shelved? are any of the tunes from it on Older or Patience?

Not that I know of... but I think the reason it was shelved because they didn't like it. This result in George filing the charges against Sony.

In retrospect, we know the score. Sony's them-CEO Tommy Mottola was AND still is a total bastard. Not quite on the level of Clive Davis or Jimmy Iovine, but definitely in the Top 5 of evil record label execs.

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Reply #23 posted 06/29/12 2:10pm

aardvark15

I'm not a big fan of it. Faith is his best album and Older his second best in my opinion. Aside from Waiting For That Day and Freedom I don't really like it. However those 2 songs are 2 of my favorites by him.
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Reply #24 posted 06/29/12 3:14pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Not that I know of... but I think the reason it was shelved because they didn't like it. This result in George filing the charges against Sony.

In retrospect, we know the score. Sony's them-CEO Tommy Mottola was AND still is a total bastard. Not quite on the level of Clive Davis or Jimmy Iovine, but definitely in the Top 5 of evil record label execs.

I'm just glad George got away from them when he did. I think he was working on the Older album also during this battle (he first started recording "Jesus to a Child" in 1993).

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Reply #25 posted 07/02/12 2:53pm

Gunsnhalen

cool

Some studio shots

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #26 posted 07/03/12 7:15pm

CynicKill

How did I miss this thread?

Love this album.

George Michael is a Cancer, moody and sensitive. I feel these traits are counter-productive to a successful music career (among other more personal problems he has).

BTW was George Michael Unplugged NEVER released on DVD?

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Reply #27 posted 07/03/12 8:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

[img:$uid]http://mykec.com/mykec/images/mly/michael_george_listen_without_prejudice_vol_1.jpg[/img:$uid]

Yes Faith was such a landmark album that George spent years running from but I think this album deserves some merit.

I just think this album in comparison to Faith was actually a more cohesive project. You definitely get why he named his album what he did because he was forcing you to listen rather than seeing.

I know some folks mock George for "trying to take himself too seriously". Hell folks here (some) have derided him and his projects ever since then but all the songs on this album to me were so personal and thought provoking that it sometimes is sad it didn't become a bigger album and that's probably due in part to George not wanting to promote it with videos - which I applaud him for.

But I definitely think this album don't get the props it needs to. Today I can say this album is a classic but I wonder if folks thought George had lost his mind with this album.


Thoughts?

Gotta say, I never knew what this album did on the charts but I always thought it was one of George's best and a definite classic IMHO. cool

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Reply #28 posted 07/03/12 9:55pm

CynicKill

It did 8 million worldwide (2 million stateside) and was considered a flop.

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