independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Quincy Jones: Diddy ‘Couldn’t Recognize a B Flat if it Hit Him’
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 6 of 7 <1234567>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #150 posted 06/30/12 12:35pm

Timmy84

falloff

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #151 posted 06/30/12 1:16pm

mjscarousal

aardvark15 said:

mjscarousal said:

I agree. neutral

Im not sure why Jimi Hendrix was even brought up disbelief

Because Jimi couldn't recognize a B flat if it hit him

But P Diddy isnt Jimi Hendrix either... so trying to lower Hendrix abilities is rather insulting just to demean Quincy's remarks and irrelevant. neutral

Im just trying to understand what are yall trying to defend and trippin over???

Im Lost, I dont see what the problem is really eek

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #152 posted 06/30/12 1:18pm

mjscarousal

EyeJester7 said:

mjscarousal said:

Q is crazy and all but his comments are spot on regarding Diddy and so the fuck what this is something that has been constantly said? I dont see anything wrong with what he said honestly..... cause its true neutral

Its not like there are legends on Q's status truthfully keeping it real as far as todays music scene goes.... ex. Stevie doing a song with Drake eek etc...

While Diddy is a businessman he is overrated in terms of his music and him as a overall rapper/producer. Just because his been in the business for over a decade doesnt necessarily mean his spectacular at what he does and I just think Q is just speaking his opinion on him music wise. Q is an old bitter queen sometimes but he was correct with these comments.

In him saying this doesnt mean his complaining. His been in the business for a long ass time, worked with alot of legendary acts and has watch the music industry changed. His just giving his opinion on some of the artists out now but this forum looks at people giving their construtive opinions on post 80s music/artist as complaining nuts

nod

I read this thread and it's not like Q said somethinf false. Diddy is a genius when it comes to marketing, not his music. AND I am not hating, I'm telling it like it is. Whether this is an argument about what's Real Music VS. Music Today; I think so many of you have points. However Diddy is not even close to Q's status in terms of music. Markerting he exceeds, but the name that is On P.Diddy is not a name given because of his music but his business's..etc.

What's the fuss? lol

EXACTLY.....

and these motherfuckers had the nerve to bring up JIMI DAMN HENDRIX in a discussion over P Diddy eek

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #153 posted 06/30/12 1:19pm

aardvark15

mjscarousal said:

aardvark15 said:

Because Jimi couldn't recognize a B flat if it hit him

But P Diddy isnt Jimi Hendrix either... so trying to lower Hendrix abilities is rather insulting

I'm not trying to lower Hendrix you all are trying to lower Puffy's Diddy's (sorry about that lol )

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #154 posted 06/30/12 1:33pm

Timmy84

^ As if Puffy's crackhead looking ass ain't already down the TOTEM POLE! ohgoon "Nah let's bury him six feet deep over some shit Captain Obvious pointed out." lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #155 posted 06/30/12 1:41pm

aardvark15

Timmy84 said:

^ As if Puffy's crackhead looking ass ain't already down the TOTEM POLE! ohgoon "Nah let's bury him six feet deep over some shit Captain Obvious pointed out." lol

I don't like Puffy but the fact is all this topic is is another "my music is better than yours" thread

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #156 posted 06/30/12 1:47pm

Timmy84

aardvark15 said:

Timmy84 said:

^ As if Puffy's crackhead looking ass ain't already down the TOTEM POLE! ohgoon "Nah let's bury him six feet deep over some shit Captain Obvious pointed out." lol

I don't like Puffy but the fact is all this topic is is another "my music is better than yours" thread

Reminds me of this song:

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #157 posted 06/30/12 2:41pm

Cinny

avatar

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #158 posted 06/30/12 2:44pm

GoldDolphin

avatar

What Qunicy is saying is very true, but I'd just wish that Quincy could shut up and enjoy his millions because he's so annoying!

When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace -Jimi Hendrix
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #159 posted 06/30/12 4:10pm

RodeoSchro

aardvark15 said:

mjscarousal said:

I agree. neutral

Im not sure why Jimi Hendrix was even brought up disbelief

Because Jimi couldn't recognize a B flat if it hit him

LMFAO, troll on!

troll

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #160 posted 06/30/12 4:14pm

NDRU

avatar

RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

Well we'll never know now because he's been dead 42 years now. But in what I saw why would you think he could read music? Which is all I was really saying? Some folks called some musicians geniuses because of their ability to play by ear rather than read it. That's all I was saying.

[Edited 6/30/12 9:42am]

I'm not talking about reading music at all. I'm talking about Jimi knowing what notes made up any chord he played. I'm talking about someone playing a C#minor 7th chord on a guitar, and Jimi being able to tell you that it was a C#minor7th without looking at the guy playing the guitar.

Whether Jimi played by ear or read music isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Jimi's knowledge of notes, scales and chords. I guarantee you he knew everything about those things that there was to know.

He didn't just put his fingers on the fretboard in various random formations.

lol exactly, I would bet all my money (which granted is not much) that he knew the names of the chords he played and the notes on the guitar.

As you know, that's not the same as reading music. He probably played by ear, true, but that doesn't mean you don't actually know what you're playing.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #161 posted 06/30/12 4:17pm

NDRU

avatar

But regardless of whether Jimi or Diddy knew B flats, the comment was not meant to be literal. There clearly ARE great musicians who don't know musical notes.

Q is just saying PD is not a real musician. If Diddy did know a B flat it wouldn't make him any better lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #162 posted 06/30/12 4:18pm

RodeoSchro

NDRU said:

RodeoSchro said:

I'm not talking about reading music at all. I'm talking about Jimi knowing what notes made up any chord he played. I'm talking about someone playing a C#minor 7th chord on a guitar, and Jimi being able to tell you that it was a C#minor7th without looking at the guy playing the guitar.

Whether Jimi played by ear or read music isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Jimi's knowledge of notes, scales and chords. I guarantee you he knew everything about those things that there was to know.

He didn't just put his fingers on the fretboard in various random formations.

lol exactly, I would bet all my money (which granted is not much) that he knew the names of the chords he played and the notes on the guitar.

As you know, that's not the same as reading music. He probably played by ear, true, but that doesn't mean you don't actually know what you're playing.

Right! I'm not talking about reading music, and I don't think Q was either. I'm talking about knowing what a Bb is when you hear it. That's what I think Q was referring to because I know that if you wanted to slam someone's musical talent (or lack thereof), that's exactly the way you'd do it.

Now aardvark, on the other hand, is doing some excellent trolling!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #163 posted 06/30/12 4:18pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

GoldDolphin said:

What Qunicy is saying is very true, but I'd just wish that Quincy could shut up and enjoy his millions because he's so annoying!

giggle

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #164 posted 06/30/12 4:23pm

RodeoSchro

NDRU said:

But regardless of whether Jimi or Diddy knew B flats, the comment was not meant to be literal. There clearly ARE great musicians who don't know musical notes.

Q is just saying PD is not a real musician. If Diddy did know a B flat it wouldn't make him any better lol

Do you really think there are pros out there who couldn't tell you what notes they were playing when they made an A chord?

I mean, I've never ever been in a jam session or recording session or any gathering of players where, if someone said, "OK, this song is in D" that there was ANYONE who didn't know what to do next.

On the other hand, I do know that Hank Williams could not READ music and used what they called the "Nashville Numbering System" (which we all use today to some degree), but even then everyone had to know the notes/chords in a key, so that you knew what "Play 1-4-5-1" meant.

.

[Edited 6/30/12 16:24pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #165 posted 06/30/12 4:33pm

NDRU

avatar

RodeoSchro said:

NDRU said:

But regardless of whether Jimi or Diddy knew B flats, the comment was not meant to be literal. There clearly ARE great musicians who don't know musical notes.

Q is just saying PD is not a real musician. If Diddy did know a B flat it wouldn't make him any better lol

Do you really think there are pros out there who couldn't tell you what notes they were playing when they made an A chord?

I mean, I've never ever been in a jam session or recording session or any gathering of players where, if someone said, "OK, this song is in D" that there was ANYONE who didn't know what to do next.

On the other hand, I do know that Hank Williams could not READ music and used what they called the "Nashville Numbering System" (which we all use today to some degree), but even then everyone had to know the notes/chords in a key, so that you knew what "Play 1-4-5-1" meant.

.

[Edited 6/30/12 16:24pm]

I would guess not too many, but I would think there were a few of the old blues musicians who didn't know much theory, but just played chord shapes or scale shapes.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #166 posted 06/30/12 4:36pm

RodeoSchro

NDRU said:

RodeoSchro said:

Do you really think there are pros out there who couldn't tell you what notes they were playing when they made an A chord?

I mean, I've never ever been in a jam session or recording session or any gathering of players where, if someone said, "OK, this song is in D" that there was ANYONE who didn't know what to do next.

On the other hand, I do know that Hank Williams could not READ music and used what they called the "Nashville Numbering System" (which we all use today to some degree), but even then everyone had to know the notes/chords in a key, so that you knew what "Play 1-4-5-1" meant.

.

[Edited 6/30/12 16:24pm]

I would guess not too many, but I would think there were a few of the old blues musicians who didn't know much theory, but just played chord shapes or scale shapes.

Yeah, I can see that.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #167 posted 06/30/12 4:44pm

sfinky1

avatar

Diddy's reply: Quincy Couldn't Recognize a HIT if it Hit Him! The guy didn't think Billie Jean was good enough to be included on Thriller !!! eek

I totally get what Quincy is saying about Diddy ( the no talent douche ) but man QJ will never live that down..
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #168 posted 06/30/12 4:48pm

NDRU

avatar

RodeoSchro said:

NDRU said:

I would guess not too many, but I would think there were a few of the old blues musicians who didn't know much theory, but just played chord shapes or scale shapes.

Yeah, I can see that.

I knew a guy in college who was learning to play, and he was getting pretty good. And he knew absolutely nothing, just played purely by ear. I was shocked, because it was exactly the opposite of how I learned. I always wanted to know what I was playing. I couldn't imagine not being curious.

Actually I saw a clip once of Dave Navarro, and at one point he said "what chord is this, a C?" I could not believe he had to ask. So he may know his chords, but it's clearly not how he's thinking when he plays.

But you're right, virtually every time you play with people it's "Let's play ________ in the key of _________"

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #169 posted 06/30/12 5:02pm

Azz

sfinky1 said:

Diddy's reply: Quincy Couldn't Recognize a HIT if it Hit Him!

eek

I think you need to re-consider how influential he was in Michael's career.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #170 posted 06/30/12 5:07pm

aardvark15

Azz said:

sfinky1 said:

Diddy's reply: Quincy Couldn't Recognize a HIT if it Hit Him!

eek

I think you need to re-consider how influential he was in Michael's career.

Michael's best stuff had little to no involvement from QJ

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #171 posted 06/30/12 5:08pm

smoothcriminal
12

aardvark15 said:

Azz said:

eek

I think you need to re-consider how influential he was in Michael's career.

Michael's best stuff had little to no involvement from QJ

Except for production. lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #172 posted 06/30/12 5:21pm

aardvark15

smoothcriminal12 said:

aardvark15 said:

Michael's best stuff had little to no involvement from QJ

Except for production. lol

Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all done without Quency and those are probably my 3 favorites by Michael, and I know many fans can agree on Dangerous.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #173 posted 06/30/12 5:23pm

smoothcriminal
12

aardvark15 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Except for production. lol

Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all done without Quency and those are probably my 3 favorites by Michael, and I know many fans can agree on Dangerous.

Dangerous is my all time favourite.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #174 posted 06/30/12 5:31pm

aardvark15

smoothcriminal12 said:

aardvark15 said:

Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all done without Quency and those are probably my 3 favorites by Michael, and I know many fans can agree on Dangerous.

Dangerous is my all time favourite.

Mine too

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #175 posted 06/30/12 8:07pm

Graycap23

aardvark15 said:

Azz said:

eek

I think you need to re-consider how influential he was in Michael's career.

Michael's best stuff had little to no involvement from QJ

confused

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #176 posted 06/30/12 8:17pm

smoothcriminal
12

Graycap23 said:

aardvark15 said:

Michael's best stuff had little to no involvement from QJ

confused

<img src=" />

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #177 posted 06/30/12 8:22pm

SoulAlive

Michael's best album is Off The Wall.Are we clear on that? lol

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #178 posted 06/30/12 8:46pm

mjscarousal

Now why is MJ being brought up? confused

MJ did not have any bad albums razz

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #179 posted 06/30/12 8:49pm

Azz

aardvark15 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Except for production. lol

Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all done without Quency and those are probably my 3 favorites by Michael, and I know many fans can agree on Dangerous.


Dangerous is my favourite.

HIStory has some superb tracks on it, but others are fillers.

Invincible was a disaster in my opinion.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 6 of 7 <1234567>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Quincy Jones: Diddy ‘Couldn’t Recognize a B Flat if it Hit Him’