SEANMAN said:

Terrib3Towel said:

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

Terrib3Towel said:

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

And I thought we were done. But I digress..

What the fuck was so great about Janet?? Thin ass voice, boring ass dance moves, annoying ass squeaky voice. Just a boring ass broad.

I'm waiting..

Just your (silly ass) opinion. Just because Janet never falls out in the middle of the street due to a drug/drink-addled haze, or curses non-stop on TV, or behaves like a rude bitch to someone who is interviewing her, does not make her uninteresting or "boring". What the fuck is so great about her? I'll tell you. She has brought joy to many people over the years through her dancing, music, videos, concerts, kindness and beauty. She inspired kids to go back to school with "Rhythm Nation", and set up scholarships with that same album. She talked people off of ledges with "The Velvet Rope", and told them that it was okay to be themselves with that album and her book "True You". She gave young girls inspiration and made them feel okay to stand on their own with "Control". She asserted Black pride and pride of womanhood with "janet.". And, all the while, she made you dance your ass off. She weathered a storm of ignorance, small-mindedness and hate because: "Oh, how DARE one of her nipple-shielded mammaries fall out for half a second and damage the minds and souls of OUR precious young children!" (<--enter sarcasm here). The fact that you call anything Janet has done dance-wise "boring ass" just shows that you either ain't playin' with a full deck and/or are really bitter and envious, and it pretty much negates anything else that you've said (which isn't much) and will say. Iconic videos like Rhythm Nation, The Knowledge, If, Nasty, All Nite, etc., contain "boring-ass" dance moves? Chile, please.

Anyway, in this segment of the GUESS WHO COVERED JANET JACKSON IN CONCERT show, I present to you none other than MISS WHITNEY HOUSTON HERSELF!!!! Yass, huntey, in late '88, Nippy gave a brief but ROUSING rendition of "Control", and even big-upped Janet herself just before she broke into song. Such a pity that the Youtube video of this has been marked "private" as of late, but, never fear. I will post a photo of what that glorious video looked like in 5,4,3,2...

...1

Yeah, Janet could NEVER do a Whitney song Justice. She knows her place.

SEANMAN said:

Terrib3Towel said:

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

And I thought we were done. But I digress..

What the fuck was so great about Janet?? Thin ass voice, boring ass dance moves, annoying ass squeaky voice. Just a boring ass broad.

I'm waiting..

Just your (silly ass) opinion. Just because Janet never falls out in the middle of the street due to a drug/drink-addled haze, or curses non-stop on TV, or behaves like a rude bitch to someone who is interviewing her, does not make her uninteresting or "boring". What the fuck is so great about her? I'll tell you. She has brought joy to many people over the years through her dancing, music, videos, concerts, kindness and beauty. She inspired kids to go back to school with "Rhythm Nation", and set up scholarships with that same album. She talked people off of ledges with "The Velvet Rope", and told them that it was okay to be themselves with that album and her book "True You". She gave young girls inspiration and made them feel okay to stand on their own with "Control". She asserted Black pride and pride of womanhood with "janet.". And, all the while, she made you dance your ass off. She weathered a storm of ignorance, small-mindedness and hate because: "Oh, how DARE one of her nipple-shielded mammaries fall out for half a second and damage the minds and souls of OUR precious young children!" (<--enter sarcasm here). The fact that you call anything Janet has done dance-wise "boring ass" just shows that you either ain't playin' with a full deck and/or are really bitter and envious, and it pretty much negates anything else that you've said (which isn't much) and will say. Iconic videos like Rhythm Nation, The Knowledge, If, Nasty, All Nite, etc., contain "boring-ass" dance moves? Chile, please.

Anyway, in this segment of the GUESS WHO COVERED JANET JACKSON IN CONCERT show, I present to you none other than MISS WHITNEY HOUSTON HERSELF!!!! Yass, huntey, in late '88, Nippy gave a brief but ROUSING rendition of "Control", and even big-upped Janet herself just before she broke into song. Such a pity that the Youtube video of this has been marked "private" as of late, but, never fear. I will post a photo of what that glorious video looked like in 5,4,3,2...

...1

Sean Terrib has no life and will stay his dumbass in here all day pressed as shit... let him talk to himself, not even worth it...

Sean Terrib has no life and will stay his dumbass in here all day pressed as shit... let him talk to himself, not even worth it...

SO true! Pressed beyond belief.

Terrib3Towel said:

Yeah, Janet could NEVER do a Whitney song Justice. She knows her place.

Terrib3Towel said:

Yeah, Janet could NEVER do a Whitney song Justice. She knows her place.

Of course she couldn't. Their aren't any Whitney songs

I actually take that back, I would probably die laughing if I heard Janet trying to belt out "I Have Nothing."

Gosh people, stop comparing them. They're all great and have done so much for people in their own ways. They all respect each other, well I dont know about Madonna and Janet, but all the rest of the ladies all have respect for what they've done musically.

bunnyscotcooper said:

SEANMAN said:

first female artist to debut at #1 in the SoundScan era

signed two record breaking record deals in the '90s--the biggest ever for a female,

making her the highest-paid singer in history at the time

more Billboard awards than any other artist

only artist to have seven singles from one album peak within the Billboard Hot 100 top 5

most successful debut world tour of any artist

first female to score Hot 100 #1s in the 80s, 90s and the new millenium

first MTV Icon

first female to obtain 5 consecutive #1 albums on the Billboard 200

Aretha is the only female singer with more R&B #1s (Janet is at #5, behind Aretha, Stevie Wonder, Louis Jordan and James Brown, respectively)

Academy Award nominee

"Control" was the first album to have 5 consecutive top 5 Hot 100 hits

first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy

first female artist to have the #1 selling album of the year (Rhythm Nation 1814, 1990)

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

first female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (1995's "Runaway")

the only artist in history to be nominated in the Pop, Rock, Dance, R&B and Rap categories at the Grammys

record-holder for the fastest sellout in the history of the Tokyo Dome: 48,000 seats with four shows which sold out in a record seven minutes.

#1 New York Times Bestselling author

her songs are still being sampled and remade today

her influence on the newer generation of artists, male and female, is evident in their videos and performances (see Kelly Rowland, Ciara, Britney, Usher, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Kari Hilson, TLC, Rihanna, Mya, et. al.)

and you were saying...?

Perfect comeback! I love it

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

that part is totally not true

SEANMAN said:

SEANMAN said:

Boring is subjective. Besides, who the hell asked for your opinion anway, skippy? Go sit yo' ass down somewhere.

And you can question whatever you like. The facts were stated and true. If that hurts you, so be it.

*Sigh* I swore I wasn't getting into this with you bitches...

Edited for fact checking:

“Miss You Much” became the first single to simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and Dance charts in October of 1989.

uh this is the org right?don't we all know that prince did this with when doves cry,lets go crazy and kiss?

For some reason, it seems like I haven't heard Mariah sing live on TV or whatever in what feels like ages. I thought I heard that even before she had her kids that her voice was starting to get weak prematurely...It seems like Mariah was an attempt to have another "Whitney Houston"...Mariah's earliest stuff especially (in retrospect) seemed a pretty obvious attempt to copy Whitney...

Pic of Janet and her Number Ones tour background singers.

1993 2012

Cover of the Control album's "He Doesn't Know I'm Alive" by group New Look

SeventeenDayze said:

For some reason, it seems like I haven't heard Mariah sing live on TV or whatever in what feels like ages. I thought I heard that even before she had her kids that her voice was starting to get weak prematurely...It seems like Mariah was an attempt to have another "Whitney Houston"...Mariah's earliest stuff especially (in retrospect) seemed a pretty obvious attempt to copy Whitney...

Well of course it did. Whitney's continued success throughout the rest of the 80s sparked a change in the music industry. Everybody wanted their own Whitney, que the influx of R&B divas 93-98.

Mariah continues to be the most successful Whitney clone.

Terrib3Towel said:

U.S. Chart News just tweeted this today

To Date Janet Jackson's Janet Album Sold 7,035,000 copes in the U.S.

Whitney Houston: The Greatest Hits is the #4 U.S. Best Seller of the Year with

818,000 copies sold

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Well of course it did. Whitney's continued success throughout the rest of the 80s sparked a change in the music industry. Everybody wanted their own Whitney, que the influx of R&B divas 93-98.

Mariah continues to be the most successful Whitney clone.

Did Whitney incorporate rap (a controvetsial genre at the time) in her music? Or blend genres in the same song? Or how about write most of her songs?

I can only recall one Whitney song in which there's a guest rapper. Whitney has several gospel-influenced pop songs. Whitney also has one of the greatest selling gospel albums of all time. We all Whitney either didn't want to write or wasn't allowed to.

What's your point?

HAPPYPERSON said:

U.S. Chart News just tweeted this today

To Date Janet Jackson's Janet Album Sold 7,035,000 copes in the U.S.

Whitney Houston: The Greatest Hits is the #4 U.S. Best Seller of the Year with

818,000 copies sold

Whitney's greatest hits have also recently been certified 5x platinum by the RIAA.

Ms. Houston stays snatching wigs, even in death.

Terrib3Towel said:

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Whitney's greatest hits have also recently been certified 5x platinum by the RIAA.

Ms. Houston stays snatching wigs, even in death.

I love Whitney but she's only selling because of her death. I think album and single sales prove It. Don't bring up I Look To You topping, any album can do that now

So if Janet dropped an album tomorrow, it would sell over 300k in its first week?

Terrib3Towel said:

Terrib3Towel said: OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

Terrib3Towel said:

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said: Did Whitney incorporate rap (a controvetsial genre at the time) in her music? Or blend genres in the same song? Or how about write most of her songs?

I can only recall one Whitney song in which there's a guest rapper. Whitney has several gospel-influenced pop songs. Whitney also has one of the greatest selling gospel albums of all time. We all Whitney either didn't want to write or wasn't allowed to.

What's your point?

Of course Whitney didn't.

She didn't write or produce or choose her music herself. She just sang what she was given. A bit like... Rihanna.

She didn't want to write, most likely because she couldn't. She wasn't creative.

[Edited 7/5/12 5:42am]

Terrib3Towel said:

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said: I love Whitney but she's only selling because of her death. I think album and single sales prove It. Don't bring up I Look To You topping, any album can do that now

So if Janet dropped an album tomorrow, it would sell over 300k in its first week?

Potentially.

Whitney's album, was her first in 8 years. Obviously it would have a strong release...

Even 'Just Witney' released in 2002, only sold 200K first week.

[Edited 7/5/12 5:50am]

Terrib3Towel said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

U.S. Chart News just tweeted this today

To Date Janet Jackson's Janet Album Sold 7,035,000 copes in the U.S.

Whitney Houston: The Greatest Hits is the #4 U.S. Best Seller of the Year with

818,000 copies sold

Whitney's greatest hits have also recently been certified 5x platinum by the RIAA.

Ms. Houston stays snatching wigs, even in death.

Stop being silly. It's because she is dead that she is selling.

Terrib3Towel said:

SeventeenDayze said:

For some reason, it seems like I haven't heard Mariah sing live on TV or whatever in what feels like ages. I thought I heard that even before she had her kids that her voice was starting to get weak prematurely...It seems like Mariah was an attempt to have another "Whitney Houston"...Mariah's earliest stuff especially (in retrospect) seemed a pretty obvious attempt to copy Whitney...

Well of course it did. Whitney's continued success throughout the rest of the 80s sparked a change in the music industry. Everybody wanted their own Whitney, que the influx of R&B divas 93-98.

Mariah continues to be the most successful Whitney clone.

Of course it did.

Record companies realised that they could make more money from each record. All they needed was a singer with a pretty face who sounded good on a track and they were $$$.

[Edited 7/5/12 5:47am]

Terrib3Towel said:

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said: Did Whitney incorporate rap (a controvetsial genre at the time) in her music? Or blend genres in the same song? Or how about write most of her songs?

I can only recall one Whitney song in which there's a guest rapper. Whitney has several gospel-influenced pop songs. Whitney also has one of the greatest selling gospel albums of all time. We all Whitney either didn't want to write or wasn't allowed to.

What's your point?

My name's not Susan feauring Monie Love - released in 1990/ 91.

I have no clue why people cite Fantasy as the first pop / rap callabo.

mancabdriver said: