neonlights said:

Yes and neither Janet or Mariah will ever reach the heights of Madonna and Whitney.

Mariah and Celine Dion have sold more than Whitney. My question is, what do you base this asumption upon?

aardvark15 said:

SEANMAN said:

Janet got critical acclaim for playing the icy "Jo" in "For Colored Girls", and her dramatic work in "Why Did I Get Married Too" also drew good reviews. Neither of those characters resembled anything she did before. But hey, it's your opinion.

Great performances expecially that part in WDIGMT with the golf club. However I do think she'd probably be better in more fictional movies. Maybe a voice over, she's definetly got the voice for it

She recently did voiceover work as Ella Fitzgerald in the documentary The Savoy King.

neonlights said:

Yes and neither Janet or Mariah will ever reach the heights of Madonna and Whitney.

first female artist to debut at #1 in the SoundScan era

signed two record breaking record deals in the '90s--the biggest ever for a female,

making her the highest-paid singer in history at the time

more Billboard awards than any other artist

only artist to have seven singles from one album peak within the Billboard Hot 100 top 5

most successful debut world tour of any artist

first female to score Hot 100 #1s in the 80s, 90s and the new millenium

first MTV Icon

first female to obtain 5 consecutive #1 albums on the Billboard 200

Aretha is the only female singer with more R&B #1s (Janet is at #5, behind Aretha, Stevie Wonder, Louis Jordan and James Brown, respectively)

Academy Award nominee

"Control" was the first album to have 5 consecutive top 5 Hot 100 hits

first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy

first female artist to have the #1 selling album of the year (Rhythm Nation 1814, 1990)

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

first female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (1995's "Runaway")

the only artist in history to be nominated in the Pop, Rock, Dance, R&B and Rap categories at the Grammys

record-holder for the fastest sellout in the history of the Tokyo Dome: 48,000 seats with four shows which sold out in a record seven minutes.

#1 New York Times Bestselling author

her songs are still being sampled and remade today

her influence on the newer generation of artists, male and female, is evident in their videos and performances (see Kelly Rowland, Ciara, Britney, Usher, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Kari Hilson, TLC, Rihanna, Mya, et. al.)

and you were saying...?

Damn Sean.

Don't forget sjhe's the only artist to have a number one hit from one album in 3 different chart years

Azz said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Azz said:

My Love is Your love was her best album, in my opinion.

My absolute favorite from her. That album jams to this day. Classic. [Edited 6/27/12 17:52pm]

For the first and probably final time

SEANMAN said:

neonlights said:

Yes and neither Janet or Mariah will ever reach the heights of Madonna and Whitney.

first female artist to debut at #1 in the SoundScan era

signed two record breaking record deals in the '90s--the biggest ever for a female,

making her the highest-paid singer in history at the time

more Billboard awards than any other artist

only artist to have seven singles from one album peak within the Billboard Hot 100 top 5

most successful debut world tour of any artist

first female to score Hot 100 #1s in the 80s, 90s and the new millenium

first MTV Icon

first female to obtain 5 consecutive #1 albums on the Billboard 200

Aretha is the only female singer with more R&B #1s (Janet is at #5, behind Aretha, Stevie Wonder, Louis Jordan and James Brown, respectively)

Academy Award nominee

"Control" was the first album to have 5 consecutive top 5 Hot 100 hits

first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy

first female artist to have the #1 selling album of the year (Rhythm Nation 1814, 1990)

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

first female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (1995's "Runaway")

the only artist in history to be nominated in the Pop, Rock, Dance, R&B and Rap categories at the Grammys

record-holder for the fastest sellout in the history of the Tokyo Dome: 48,000 seats with four shows which sold out in a record seven minutes.

#1 New York Times Bestselling author

her songs are still being sampled and remade today

her influence on the newer generation of artists, male and female, is evident in their videos and performances (see Kelly Rowland, Ciara, Britney, Usher, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Kari Hilson, TLC, Rihanna, Mya, et. al.)

and you were saying...?

And yet, she is still so boring.

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

That one I question.

SUPRMAN said:

SEANMAN said:

first female artist to debut at #1 in the SoundScan era

signed two record breaking record deals in the '90s--the biggest ever for a female,

making her the highest-paid singer in history at the time

more Billboard awards than any other artist

only artist to have seven singles from one album peak within the Billboard Hot 100 top 5

most successful debut world tour of any artist

first female to score Hot 100 #1s in the 80s, 90s and the new millenium

first MTV Icon

first female to obtain 5 consecutive #1 albums on the Billboard 200

Aretha is the only female singer with more R&B #1s (Janet is at #5, behind Aretha, Stevie Wonder, Louis Jordan and James Brown, respectively)

Academy Award nominee

"Control" was the first album to have 5 consecutive top 5 Hot 100 hits

first female recording artist of color to be nominated for a Producer Of The Year Grammy

first female artist to have the #1 selling album of the year (Rhythm Nation 1814, 1990)

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

first female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (1995's "Runaway")

the only artist in history to be nominated in the Pop, Rock, Dance, R&B and Rap categories at the Grammys

record-holder for the fastest sellout in the history of the Tokyo Dome: 48,000 seats with four shows which sold out in a record seven minutes.

#1 New York Times Bestselling author

her songs are still being sampled and remade today

her influence on the newer generation of artists, male and female, is evident in their videos and performances (see Kelly Rowland, Ciara, Britney, Usher, Aaliyah, Chris Brown, Kari Hilson, TLC, Rihanna, Mya, et. al.)

and you were saying...?

And yet, she is still so boring.

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

That one I question.

Boring is subjective. Besides, who the hell asked for your opinion anway, skippy? Go sit yo' ass down somewhere.

And you can question whatever you like. The facts were stated and true. If that hurts you, so be it.

*Sigh* I swore I wasn't getting into this with you bitches...

SEANMAN said:

SUPRMAN said:

And yet, she is still so boring.

first artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

That one I question.

Boring is subjective. Besides, who the hell asked for your opinion anway, skippy? Go sit yo' ass down somewhere.

And you can question whatever you like. The facts were stated and true. If that hurts you, so be it.

*Sigh* I swore I wasn't getting into this with you bitches...

Edited for fact checking:

“Miss You Much” became the first single to simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and Dance charts in October of 1989.

SUPRMAN said:

And yet, she is still so boring.

This is what I'm saying.

Janet never did anything for me.

Janet is hardly even mentioned anymore outside of the org. Not hating. Just being honest.

Madonna, Mariah & Whitney (and yes pre-death as well) get much more media play.

musicjunky318 said:

Janet is hardly even mentioned anymore outside of the org. Not hating. Just being honest.

Madonna, Mariah & Whitney (and yes pre-death as well) get much more media play.

Have you been on other websites, or do you watch news media shows? Because she is talked about. Whether she's turning up at an event, or touting the fact that she's producing a documentary (which she is), or even if it's just about her body, it's always on E! News, ET, BET, etc. New album rumors have recently been sparked as well. And then there was that recent talk of her possibly joining X-Factor (which I'm glad she didn't), before Britney Spears was named as the new judge.

Mariah Carey is only ever talked about lately whenever anyone mentions Nick Cannon. There was that duet she did with Bieber last Christmas, and Jenny Craig, but that's it. As for Whitney, before she passed, there was talk of Sparkle, and also that incident that happened on the airplane last year, but...

Madonna will do anything to keep herself in the headlines, be damned, so that's no surprise there.

The thing with Janet is, she grew up with fame. She was never as fame hungry as some of her contemporaries who didn't grow up with it, but craved it like they craved food. That's one thing I've always admired about her. She never needed to be famous. She was raised with it, and eventually attained it on her own. I'm convinced that's why she's never gone through the trouble of having most of her back catalogue re-certified, just to prove something. And that's why she's content doing her own thing, (the book, the #1s tour, the transgender documentary, the film production deal). The proof of her legacy is in the younger crop of pop artists.

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i shouldn't have started this thread but it is fun to learn things from shawn. was just a thought i had listening to all four back to back, no disrepect to what any of them accomplished, they're all in the elite biggest 25 or 50 music stars ever

miscarousel is killing this thread

SEANMAN said:

[Edited 6/27/12 20:32pm]

Love those pics! They prove this comparison nonsense is just noise

Terrib3Towel said:

SUPRMAN said:

And yet, she is still so boring.

This is what I'm saying.

Janet never did anything for me.

Says a whitney houston fan???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You must be smoking the same ish Whitney was when she did that Wendy interview.

As an artist Whitney and Mariah are about as exciting as watching paint dry - from their awkward videos and unimaginative album concepts.

But Whitney as a person was far more interesting than Janet - because all her problems were evident and she had a hard time concealing her problems during live performances and in interviews - car crash viewing = more media coverage (same with Mariah) - Now is that a good thing?

mancabdriver said:

Terrib3Towel said:

This is what I'm saying.

Janet never did anything for me.

Says a whitney houston fan???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You must be smoking the same ish Whitney was when she did that Wendy interview.

As an artist Whitney and Mariah are about as exciting as watching paint dry - from their awkward videos and unimaginative album concepts.

But Whitney as a person was far more interesting than Janet - because all her problems were evident and she had a hard time concealing her problems during live performances and in interviews - car crash viewing = more media coverage (same with Mariah) - Now is that a good thing?

Whitney Houston > MJ's little sister

Whitney is more interesting not just because of her problems; she had a larger than life personality too.

neonlights said:

mancabdriver said:

Says a whitney houston fan???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You must be smoking the same ish Whitney was when she did that Wendy interview.

As an artist Whitney and Mariah are about as exciting as watching paint dry - from their awkward videos and unimaginative album concepts.

But Whitney as a person was far more interesting than Janet - because all her problems were evident and she had a hard time concealing her problems during live performances and in interviews - car crash viewing = more media coverage (same with Mariah) - Now is that a good thing?

Whitney Houston > MJ's little sister

Whitney is more interesting not just because of her problems; she had a larger than life personality too.

Is that attempted dig at Janet? Bit unimaginative and tiresome don't you think? - you must be a Whitney fan.

Yes you are right - her personality was far more interesting than her musical legacy of cover songs.

SEANMAN said:

SEANMAN said:

Boring is subjective. Besides, who the hell asked for your opinion anway, skippy? Go sit yo' ass down somewhere.

And you can question whatever you like. The facts were stated and true. If that hurts you, so be it.

*Sigh* I swore I wasn't getting into this with you bitches...

Edited for fact checking:

“Miss You Much” became the first single to simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and Dance charts in October of 1989.

Rhythm Nation was & is the album, I love listening to the flow of Lonely Come Back 2 Me & Someday Is Tonight

mancabdriver said:

neonlights said:

Whitney Houston > MJ's little sister

Whitney is more interesting not just because of her problems; she had a larger than life personality too.

Is that attempted dig at Janet? Bit unimaginative and tiresome don't you think? - you must be a Whitney fan.

Yes you are right - her personality was far more interesting than her musical legacy of cover songs.

Damn.

Also, her interviews were only really interesting when she was either high on drugs, or off drugs, talking about her drug problem.

neonlights said:

mancabdriver said:

Says a whitney houston fan???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

You must be smoking the same ish Whitney was when she did that Wendy interview.

As an artist Whitney and Mariah are about as exciting as watching paint dry - from their awkward videos and unimaginative album concepts.

But Whitney as a person was far more interesting than Janet - because all her problems were evident and she had a hard time concealing her problems during live performances and in interviews - car crash viewing = more media coverage (same with Mariah) - Now is that a good thing?

Whitney Houston > MJ's little sister

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

And I thought we were done. But I digress..

What the fuck was so great about Janet?? Thin ass voice, boring ass dance moves, annoying ass squeaky voice. Just a boring ass broad.

I'm waiting..

Terrib3Towel said:

mancabdriver came in here starting shit up again, so you need to check him and not me.

I was done.

Terrib3Towel said:

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

And I thought we were done. But I digress..

What the fuck was so great about Janet?? Thin ass voice, boring ass dance moves, annoying ass squeaky voice. Just a boring ass broad.

I'm waiting..

On the first page you said you were out.... but you have made it your mission to bash Janet up and down this entire thread continuously. This is the definition of someone who is pressed since you were confused about it in another thread.

Im not sure what point your trying to make or prove? You already said you dont like Janet and stated your reasons, what else is there more to say?

mjscarousal said:

Terrib3Towel said:

OMG Smooth!! Where did that gifs come from??

And I thought we were done. But I digress..

What the fuck was so great about Janet?? Thin ass voice, boring ass dance moves, annoying ass squeaky voice. Just a boring ass broad.

I'm waiting..

On the first page you said you were out.... but you have made it your mission to bash Janet up and down this entire thread continuously. This is the definition of someone who is pressed since you were confused about it in another thread.

Im not sure what point your trying to make or prove? You already said you dont like Janet and stated your reasons, what else is there more to say?

Quit stalking me, hoe.

Terrib3Towel said:

mjscarousal said:

On the first page you said you were out.... but you have made it your mission to bash Janet up and down this entire thread continuously. This is the definition of someone who is pressed since you were confused about it in another thread.

Im not sure what point your trying to make or prove? You already said you dont like Janet and stated your reasons, what else is there more to say?

Quit stalking me, hoe.

You need to stop typing that your done... after the 50 millionth time coming back here.. you've proved your Janets biggest hater and no Im not the hoe... you are disrespectful bitch You are beyond childish and pathetic

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khemseraph said: