benjaminira said:

They all pale in comparison to Teena Marie. She wrote, produced, and arranged!

I love Teena but she just was never an amazing singer. Awesome songwriter, proudcer and arranger though

She pulled it off live, without any gimmicks.

But she never gave the kind of performance Janet or Madonna did/do

Madonna can barely play guitar

Mariah can't play an instrument

Mariah can play piano

RKJCNE said:

You know someone is pressed if they call Janet a weak dancer

Precisely!

SEANMAN said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

SEANMAN said:

Are you joking? the janet. album came in 1993. That's was 11 years before the SuperBowl, which equals a long time. From 1993 until the early 2000s (and even before), Janet was on a plane all by herself. Not only did she sign the biggest recording contracts by EVER by a female during that time period, but all of her albums debuted at #1, she sold out concerts everwhere, the #1 hits kept on coming, she won heaps of awards, etc. Her biggest critical acclaim came in 1997. With 2001's "All For You", she broke radio records that took ten years to be broken (by Lady Gaga).

No I'm not Joking, I'm saying Janet became a superstar in the 1980's via Control & Rhythm Nation

Janet was huge & yes Velvet Rope. I love these 4 album but I'm saying she did start to waver in & out the lime light after Janet, After Velvet Rope she fell off. But Janet was HUGE in the 1980's

You know what, how many people aren't going to sell out concerts? Yes Janet will sell out concerts.

Janet during "All 4 You" wasn't as Big as Control/Rhythm Nation Janet, not even close

Oh lawd. Ok. During the AFY era, Janet was crowned MTV's first ICON, sold more albums the first week out than she ever had previously, acquired not only HER 10th Hot 100 #1 hit, but was the first solo female artist to have a #1 Hot 100 in the new millineum and in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, was awarded the American Music Awards Award of Merit--their highest honor and an award given to such artists as Prince, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston before her, embarked on her fourth world tour, starred in a film that opened #1 at the US box office, thanks in part to her fan base, drew huge crowds when she visited MTV's TRL, won a Grammy award for Best Dance Recording...

SEANMAN said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No I'm not Joking, I'm saying Janet became a superstar in the 1980's via Control & Rhythm Nation

Janet was huge & yes Velvet Rope. I love these 4 album but I'm saying she did start to waver in & out the lime light after Janet, After Velvet Rope she fell off. But Janet was HUGE in the 1980's

You know what, how many people aren't going to sell out concerts? Yes Janet will sell out concerts.

Janet during "All 4 You" wasn't as Big as Control/Rhythm Nation Janet, not even close

Oh lawd. Ok. During the AFY era, Janet was crowned MTV's first ICON, sold more albums the first week out than she ever had previously, acquired not only HER 10th Hot 100 #1 hit, but was the first solo female artist to have a #1 Hot 100 in the new millineum and in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, was awarded the American Music Awards Award of Merit--their highest honor and an award given to such artists as Prince, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston before her, embarked on her fourth world tour, starred in a film that opened #1 at the US box office, thanks in part to her fan base, drew huge crowds when she visited MTV's TRL, won a Grammy award for Best Dance Recording...

you mean for doesn't really matter

Okayplayer.com Boards - V...the world?

lol

badujunkie said:

aardvark15 said:

Terrib3Towel said:

When Madonna can carry a note, tell me.

1. Evita

2. Ray OF Light

3. Music

4. Like A Prayer

5. Confessions On A Dance Floor

6. Various ballads from the 90's

add Falling Free, that song has me mezmerized

Terrib3Towel said:

Are you still here??

Whitney slays. That's quite obvious no matter how you try to twist it.

Biggest Selling Soundtrack

Most Awarded Female Artist of All Time

7 Consecutive #1s

Biggest Selling non-charity single of all time

Bigest Selling Album By a Female

Keep trying.

U r funny

You keep saying "bye" and that your done, and you can't stop yourself from coming back lol

TD3 said:

With the exception of Ms. Houston's 1st album, I don't own any of their music.

I only bought the Bodyguard album which isn't a full Whitney album

I have a lot of songs from her 1980's stuff, love her pop stuff maybe a song from the Preachers Wife

Whitney trying to do RnB and being like all the other female vocalists after Bodyguard was a bad move on her part

She should have learned opera and took her career to another level

Azz said:

SEANMAN said:

MEDIOCRE dancing ability? Bitch, now I know you crazy!

Exactly.

And I remember reading this poster was a Beyonce fan somewhere.......

Terrib likes to put on that he isnt a Beyonce stan but he really is....

When he said that Janet was a mediocre dancer I knew from then on there was no point in going back and forth and how he trashes MJ . He needs to sit down and stfu.

Janet is a muphukking Queen, fuck what y'all say!

Terrib3Towel said:

Lol.

I said mediocre. Nothing special.

Better than Madonna tho.

Please hush up your making a fool of yourself now..... That Beyawnce heffa that you like to put on that you dont like but really do is the definition of mediocre dancing... fuck the bullshit...

Stop hating. We all love Whitney but you are beyond delusional with these over the top dumbass rants

[Edited 6/27/12 7:52am]

Spinlight said:

Janet and Mariah have released a bunch of shitty records. And not shitty in the sense that they were failed experiments. They just kept releasing the same boring ass shit over and over.

Madonna has taken a lot of risks. And Whitney's peak was so extremely high that damn near anything she did was going to be golden. Doubly so due to the breaks she took between material.

Mariah's career is different in that she started in the 1990's

Whitney Madonna & Janet came in the 1980's last age of 'superstardom'

As much as I love Velvet Rope, it was the album that I noticed the real start of repetitions

GoldDolphin said:

aardvark15 said:

I do agree with what silverchild said but if I had to rank them....

I would rank them:

Voice:

Whitney

Mariah

Janet

Madonna

Songwriting:

Janet

Madonna

Mariah

Whitney

Performance:

Madonna

Janet

Whitney

Mariah

Dancing:

Janet

Madonna

Whitney

Mariah

Success:

Madonna

Whitney

Mariah

Janet

Influence:

Janet

Madonna

Mariah

Whitney (While I do feel most people who aspire to sing listen to Whitney, they often sound more like Mariah then anyone else)

Overrall Package:

Mariah

Janet

Madonna

Whitney

Basically:

Madonna- Weak voice (aside from Ray Of Light era), amazing performer, great songwriter

Whitney- Heavenly voice and that's about it. Her performances are good but they focus and rely on the voice

Janet- Good voice (she does well with the range she has), amazing performer, great songwriter

Mariah- Great voice, okay performer, great songwriter

Fashion

Madonna (She's an icon in the fashion industry)

Janet

Whitney/Mariah (known for their beauty but not so much in fashion)

Acting

Whitney

Janet (not a good actress imo, but she has done some good roles)

Madonna (the only movie which she did well was Don't Cry for me Argentina)

Mariah (she was alright in the Precious movie but I havent seen much to judge)

Madonna did really good in A League of Their Own too

and nice small parts like in Girl 6 & Die Another Day (of course that's a bit different)

Didn't realize she did a lot of small roles here n there

Desperately Seeking Susan i think she did good in, it was more of her musical character at the time too so probably makes it easier

I loved Whitney in the Bodyguard, that's a wonderful movie altogether, she's done good in the following roles as well

Janet too me comes across as the same person from Penny in Good Times, Different Strokes, Fame ... the only roles a bit different to me was Poetic Justice, she might do better in Sci Fi movies

OldFriends4Sale said:

mjscarousal said:

Terrib3Towel said:

mjscarousal said:

Please hush up your making a fool of yourself now..... That Beyawnce heffa that you like to put on that you dont like but really do is the definition of mediocre dancing... fuck the bullshit...

Stop hating. We all love Whitney but you are beyond delusional with these over the top dumbass rants

[Edited 6/27/12 7:52am]

I know your ass ain't talking about delusional. Nobody can have an opinion on that fucking child rapist you worship or you'll go off on some 10 page long rant and at the end say you don't care but you obviously do. And I've said millions of times I do not like Beyonce, but for some reason you are extremely pressed over her like she killed ur dog or something. And I LOVE MJs music and hes a fantastic dancer. I only trash him so the deluded stans can come running (which you always do). Janet's dancing dancing is MY OPINION, so deal with it. [Edited 6/27/12 9:27am]

Oh, please...I aint pressed over nothing thats you I express my opinion and if that is how it comes across... so be it then..

How can you expect for people not to bash you but you insist on basing your arguement on irrelevant ignorant insults not just with MJ even in this thread.

If you like Beyonce ..so what its nothing wrong with it but you always wanna try to convince people that you dont when its clear you do and yes I take that into consideration when you make statements like Janet dances mediocre and if you seriously find joy in saying ignorant jokes about MJ just to get a rise out of some fans here than you seriously need to get a life

I dont come running no where, I just think your crazy and call you out on it

Carry On.

Time for a derail!

How about we all agree that Whitney, Janet, Madonna and Mariah are all influential to many people in many different ways and they are all great.

(Me saying Whitney's name first and Mariah's last is no indication of their status as icons. Now kiss and make up everybody.)

smoothcriminal12 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Time for a derail!

LOVE!!!!!

OldFriends4Sale said:

GoldDolphin said:

Fashion

Madonna (She's an icon in the fashion industry)

Janet

Whitney/Mariah (known for their beauty but not so much in fashion)

Acting

Whitney

Janet (not a good actress imo, but she has done some good roles)

Madonna (the only movie which she did well was Don't Cry for me Argentina)

Mariah (she was alright in the Precious movie but I havent seen much to judge)

Madonna did really good in A League of Their Own too

and nice small parts like in Girl 6 & Die Another Day (of course that's a bit different)

Didn't realize she did a lot of small roles here n there

Desperately Seeking Susan i think she did good in, it was more of her musical character at the time too so probably makes it easier

I loved Whitney in the Bodyguard, that's a wonderful movie altogether, she's done good in the following roles as well

Janet too me comes across as the same person from Penny in Good Times, Different Strokes, Fame ... the only roles a bit different to me was Poetic Justice, she might do better in Sci Fi movies

Janet got critical acclaim for playing the icy "Jo" in "For Colored Girls", and her dramatic work in "Why Did I Get Married Too" also drew good reviews. Neither of those characters resembled anything she did before. But hey, it's your opinion.

badujunkie said:

SEANMAN said:

Oh lawd. Ok. During the AFY era, Janet was crowned MTV's first ICON, sold more albums the first week out than she ever had previously, acquired not only HER 10th Hot 100 #1 hit, but was the first solo female artist to have a #1 Hot 100 in the new millineum and in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, was awarded the American Music Awards Award of Merit--their highest honor and an award given to such artists as Prince, James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston before her, embarked on her fourth world tour, starred in a film that opened #1 at the US box office, thanks in part to her fan base, drew huge crowds when she visited MTV's TRL, won a Grammy award for Best Dance Recording...

you mean for doesn't really matter

Right, but DRM was include on the AFY album, and it's all pretty much the same era anyway.

SEANMAN said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Madonna did really good in A League of Their Own too

and nice small parts like in Girl 6 & Die Another Day (of course that's a bit different)

Didn't realize she did a lot of small roles here n there

Desperately Seeking Susan i think she did good in, it was more of her musical character at the time too so probably makes it easier

I loved Whitney in the Bodyguard, that's a wonderful movie altogether, she's done good in the following roles as well

Janet too me comes across as the same person from Penny in Good Times, Different Strokes, Fame ... the only roles a bit different to me was Poetic Justice, she might do better in Sci Fi movies

Janet got critical acclaim for playing the icy "Jo" in "For Colored Girls", and her dramatic work in "Why Did I Get Married Too" also drew good reviews. Neither of those characters resembled anything she did before. But hey, it's your opinion.

Great performances expecially that part in WDIGMT with the golf club. However I do think she'd probably be better in more fictional movies. Maybe a voice over, she's definetly got the voice for it

Terrib3Towel said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I only bought the Bodyguard album which isn't a full Whitney album

I have a lot of songs from her 1980's stuff, love her pop stuff maybe a song from the Preachers Wife

Whitney trying to do RnB and being like all the other female vocalists after Bodyguard was a bad move on her part

She should have learned opera and took her career to another level

I'm quite the opposite. I prefer her R&B work. I do love How Will I Know, I Wanna Dance With Somebody, So Emotional however. Often times Whitney's voice was too big for those elementary songs they gave her. Shes the queen of Power Ballads.

My Love is Your love was her best album, in my opinion.

Terrib3Towel said:

mjscarousal said:

Please hush up your making a fool of yourself now..... That Beyawnce heffa that you like to put on that you dont like but really do is the definition of mediocre dancing... fuck the bullshit...

Stop hating. We all love Whitney but you are beyond delusional with these over the top dumbass rants

[Edited 6/27/12 7:52am]

I know your ass ain't talking about delusional. Nobody can have an opinion on that fucking child rapist you worship or you'll go off on some 10 page long rant and at the end say you don't care but you obviously do. And I've said millions of times I do not like Beyonce, but for some reason you are extremely pressed over her like she killed ur dog or something. And I LOVE MJs music and hes a fantastic dancer. I only trash him so the deluded stans can come running (which you always do). Janet's dancing dancing is MY OPINION, so deal with it. [Edited 6/27/12 9:27am]

You clearly can't have a discussion, in my opinion.

[Edited 6/27/12 15:42pm]

Yes and neither Janet or Mariah will ever reach the heights of Madonna and Whitney.

neonlights said:

Yes and neither Janet or Mariah will ever reach the heights of Madonna and Whitney.

We finally manage to start talking about them equally and you show up and have to ruin it