aardvark15 said:

FnkyManifesto7 said:

Ahh, thanks! how could I of forgotten P!nk? She is very talented!

I find it funny you obviously gave Lady Gaga a snub when she sings well, plays piano great, and writes all her own music while P!nk sings fine and doesn't write a lot of music

She co-writes 90% of her material..

Isn't that enough?

tritoncin said:

aardvark15 said:

I find it funny you obviously gave Lady Gaga a snub when she sings well, plays piano great, and writes all her own music while P!nk sings fine and doesn't write a lot of music

She co-writes 90% of her material..

Isn't that enough?

Depends on how much is co-written by her. I remember getting an album by her and not seeing a lot of writing credit....hmmm

I like Katy Perry. And Rihanna. And not just because I think they're sexy women, I actually enjoy listening to their music. And of course, Britney Spears. But I think it's because I got into programming a couple years ago and before that I was just playing instruments like guitar, piano, and bass. Now I'm kind of sitting in the producers seat and when I listen to these pop artists, I think I'm listening to it mainly to see what kinds of sounds their producers are using. Even though the music I make sounds completely different. But with the exception of Britney Spears, I think Katy and Rihanna are actually pretty good singers too. Katy Perry actually started out singing gospel music and Rihanna just adds such a sexual tone to her music through her voice, albeit if it is the same voice in every song. I like it. Plus, being in the rock world, everyone knows that pop songs are the best songs to cover, so that's why I listen to it too.

But I do agree. The music that's out there completely sucks. I refuse to listen to radio anymore and have not since about 2007. It just amazes me that all these 3-word bands/artists, complete no talent rip offs, shit hop rappers and dubstep faggots are what is actually popular and selling nowadays. It's so fucking sad that no one knows what real music is anymore. I shit you not, I met some kids who don't even know who Led Zeppelin or David Bowie are!

aardvark15 said:

tritoncin said:

She co-writes 90% of her material..

Isn't that enough?

Depends on how much is co-written by her. I remember getting an album by her and not seeing a lot of writing credit....hmmm

Lady Gaga is a Marilyn Manson rip off. Straight up. There was a void in shock rock and although she isn't necessarily a rock artist, she was the one that took the torch and ran with it. Everybody knows it started with KISS, Alice came along, then Manson, who's still around, but just kind of turned himself into a joke, and now we have the new and improved, female Manson, Lady Gaga. Sure she might be quite the singer and she knows how to play classical piano and this and that merit, but she whores herself out for shock value so much that I just can't see any real personality from her and instead just find a product. She's a fucking product. It's wrapped, it's sold, there you go, digest it, poop it out. No further investigation required.

aardvark15 said:

tritoncin said:

She co-writes 90% of her material..

Isn't that enough?

Depends on how much is co-written by her. I remember getting an album by her and not seeing a lot of writing credit....hmmm

Well, I guess it was her first. Mainly LaFace R&B product.

Get the others.

And concerning "how much is written by her", we'll never know.

tritoncin said:

aardvark15 said:

Depends on how much is co-written by her. I remember getting an album by her and not seeing a lot of writing credit....hmmm

Well, I guess it was her first. Mainly LaFace R&B product.

Get the others.

And concerning "how much is written by her", we'll never know.

She started out as a song-writer so I think she writes the majority of her songs & the large part of songs on her 'Fame Monster' & 'Born This Way' have written by Lady Gaga/Stefani both being Gaga so she writes her song lyrics, I've seen her live and she plays piano amazingly and puts on an amazing show

Some like to say, "There is just as much good music - you just have to look harder for it". I disagree with this statement but for the sake of argument, let's assume it's true. And I'm defining "good music" in this post as "pop/rock/soul music as good as the best stuff from the '60's - '80's".

So the question is, WHY is good music hard to find?

Many of you have grown up never knowing what it was like to not have the internet, or streaming songs, or Pandora, or Spotify, or Sirius/XM, or YouTube, or music videos, or file sharing. Let me tell you what it was like back when we had good music in the 60's - 80's:

You had a radio. That was it. That was the only way to get new music (until MTV hit its stride in the mid-'80's). You COULD go to a disco, and hear disco songs that weren't played on a radio, but for pop/rock/soul, you found your new music basically in one and only one place - the radio.

If you were very lucky, your town had two radio stations that catered to your tastes. Two pop stations, two rock stations, tow country and western stations, MAYBE two soul stations in the biggest markets.

This was good, in that usually only the best of the best made it on the radio. So good music was always easy to find.

Fast forward to today. Assuming there is the same amount of good music out there, why is that good music NOT found on the radio? The radio is still the place where the most people hear the most music. And it's definitely the easiest place to go to hear something new. No searching required.

Yet, the good music is not on the radio any more. I have no idea why that is so.

What are your thoughts? Why has good music been shoved from the places easiest to access, to places where now you have to know where to search hard to find?

RodeoSchro said:

Some like to say, "There is just as much good music - you just have to look harder for it". I disagree with this statement but for the sake of argument, let's assume it's true. And I'm defining "good music" in this post as "pop/rock/soul music as good as the best stuff from the '60's - '80's".

So the question is, WHY is good music hard to find?

Many of you have grown up never knowing what it was like to not have the internet, or streaming songs, or Pandora, or Spotify, or Sirius/XM, or YouTube, or music videos, or file sharing. Let me tell you what it was like back when we had good music in the 60's - 80's:

You had a radio. That was it. That was the only way to get new music (until MTV hit its stride in the mid-'80's). You COULD go to a disco, and hear disco songs that weren't played on a radio, but for pop/rock/soul, you found your new music basically in one and only one place - the radio.

If you were very lucky, your town had two radio stations that catered to your tastes. Two pop stations, two rock stations, tow country and western stations, MAYBE two soul stations in the biggest markets.

This was good, in that usually only the best of the best made it on the radio. So good music was always easy to find.

Fast forward to today. Assuming there is the same amount of good music out there, why is that good music NOT found on the radio? The radio is still the place where the most people hear the most music. And it's definitely the easiest place to go to hear something new. No searching required.

Yet, the good music is not on the radio any more. I have no idea why that is so.

What are your thoughts? Why has good music been shoved from the places easiest to access, to places where now you have to know where to search hard to find?

Pay 4 play.........and folks don't have the record company loot 2 do that anymore.

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Some like to say, "There is just as much good music - you just have to look harder for it". I disagree with this statement but for the sake of argument, let's assume it's true. And I'm defining "good music" in this post as "pop/rock/soul music as good as the best stuff from the '60's - '80's".

So the question is, WHY is good music hard to find?

Many of you have grown up never knowing what it was like to not have the internet, or streaming songs, or Pandora, or Spotify, or Sirius/XM, or YouTube, or music videos, or file sharing. Let me tell you what it was like back when we had good music in the 60's - 80's:

You had a radio. That was it. That was the only way to get new music (until MTV hit its stride in the mid-'80's). You COULD go to a disco, and hear disco songs that weren't played on a radio, but for pop/rock/soul, you found your new music basically in one and only one place - the radio.

If you were very lucky, your town had two radio stations that catered to your tastes. Two pop stations, two rock stations, tow country and western stations, MAYBE two soul stations in the biggest markets.

This was good, in that usually only the best of the best made it on the radio. So good music was always easy to find.

Fast forward to today. Assuming there is the same amount of good music out there, why is that good music NOT found on the radio? The radio is still the place where the most people hear the most music. And it's definitely the easiest place to go to hear something new. No searching required.

Yet, the good music is not on the radio any more. I have no idea why that is so.

What are your thoughts? Why has good music been shoved from the places easiest to access, to places where now you have to know where to search hard to find?

Pay 4 play.........and folks don't have the record company loot 2 do that anymore.

Exactly!

Those pop artists record companies pay those stations to play their music, over and over and over again thats why it appears their the only artists out now.