MickyDolenz said:

JoeTyler said:

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Sting basically wrote The Police's biggest hits and many other strong album tracks

Since Sting would only perform his own songs, then of course that would be the case. It's like George Harrison fighting to get songs on Beatles albums. Most were rejected because John & Paul didn't want to give up their spot.

oh, ok then I think that the album Synchronicity was the final straw anyway: Sting contributed the (double!) title-track + Every Breath You Take, King of Pain or Wrapped Around Your Finger, while Summers came up with the dreadful Mother...I think Sting kinda lost the respect for Andy there...

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

were they truly surprised? Sting was a hottie back then, and the main songwriter & the lead singer

The Police was Sting's band just as The Velvet Underground was Lou Reed's band...

Plus no one was studying the other two. Sting brought the girls to their shows.

which is sad, Andy was the perfect guitar player for Sting, his solo album just don't have the same magic...

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

Plus no one was studying the other two. Sting brought the girls to their shows.

which is sad, Andy was the perfect guitar player for Sting, his solo album just don't have the same magic...

True. Sting wasn't the same when he left the Police. It kinda reminds me of when other singers leave popular groups, a part of them leaves and they become almost unfamiliar. Almost.

JoeTyler said:

MickyDolenz said:

Since Sting would only perform his own songs, then of course that would be the case. It's like George Harrison fighting to get songs on Beatles albums. Most were rejected because John & Paul didn't want to give up their spot.

oh, ok then I think that the album Synchronicity was the final straw anyway: Sting contributed the (double!) title-track + Every Breath You Take, King of Pain or Wrapped Around Your Finger, while Summers came up with the dreadful Mother...I think Sting kinda lost the respect for Andy there...

How the hell Mother ended up there I will never know!

But in a recent interview with the Police, they were asked to name their favorite songs. Summers and Copeland both said Message in a Bottle, and Sting said it was a tie between Mother and Miss Gradenko

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

which is sad, Andy was the perfect guitar player for Sting, his solo album just don't have the same magic...

True. Sting wasn't the same when he left the Police. It kinda reminds me of when other singers leave popular groups, a part of them leaves and they become almost unfamiliar. Almost.

Sting is a little like George Michael. They had a desire to be taken more seriously, but what made their music in the first place was how catchy it was.

As far as Sting's solo material is concerned, has anyone picked this up or checked this out?

JoeTyler said:

MickyDolenz said:

Since Sting would only perform his own songs, then of course that would be the case. It's like George Harrison fighting to get songs on Beatles albums. Most were rejected because John & Paul didn't want to give up their spot.

oh, ok then I think that the album Synchronicity was the final straw anyway: Sting contributed the (double!) title-track + Every Breath You Take, King of Pain or Wrapped Around Your Finger, while Summers came up with the dreadful Mother...I think Sting kinda lost the respect for Andy there...

I've always considered Synchronicity to be Sting's first real solo venture...

[Edited 6/18/12 16:50pm]

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

were they truly surprised? Sting was a hottie back then, and the main songwriter & the lead singer

The Police was Sting's band just as The Velvet Underground was Lou Reed's band...

Plus no one was studying the other two. Sting brought the girls to their shows.

Yep, fine as hell

Biiiig Sting fan here. I love the Police stuff, but his solo work, it's almost like it's a completely different artist, which I like too. Ten Summoner's Tales is his best solo work imo, but they're all good (although he kinda lost me when he put out that album of Dowland lute songs. I love Sting, and I love Downland, but Sting's voice just isn't quite cut out for that material.)

Far as him being pretentious goes, I think it's because he's a well read guy who likes stuff other than rock music. He writes songs about books, and they're singable! If only most of his peers had half the talent he does....

NDRU said:

Timmy84 said:

True. Sting wasn't the same when he left the Police. It kinda reminds me of when other singers leave popular groups, a part of them leaves and they become almost unfamiliar. Almost.

Sting is a little like George Michael. They had a desire to be taken more seriously, but what made their music in the first place was how catchy it was.

bboy will probably kill me, but I'm glad he left Wham behind

silverchild said:

JoeTyler said:

oh, ok then I think that the album Synchronicity was the final straw anyway: Sting contributed the (double!) title-track + Every Breath You Take, King of Pain or Wrapped Around Your Finger, while Summers came up with the dreadful Mother...I think Sting kinda lost the respect for Andy there...

I've always considered Synchronicity to be Sting's first real solo venture...

[Edited 6/18/12 16:50pm]

if not his "unofficial" first solo venture, at the very least the album that showed why he decided to start a solo career, lol

Sting's albums of the 00s were from weird to dreadful anyway, lol

JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

Sting is a little like George Michael. They had a desire to be taken more seriously, but what made their music in the first place was how catchy it was.

bboy will probably kill me, but I'm glad he left Wham behind

I take George's attempts at "being serious" seriously because he put effort and most of the times to me didn't come off like Sting did. I dig Wham but I love his solo career better too.

I think The Police where a great band because of the trio. Stings sometimes strange lyics mixed witht hat bass, Stewarts amazing drumming & Andy's great guitar licks. I think Andy was.... probably the less of the 3. He is good, But he is overshadowed by Sting's persona & Stewarts fantatsic drumming.

I dig the jazzy stuff Sting did on his first album which as i made a thread about... was ''controversial'' apperently from rock purists saying he is trying to hard to make black music & jazz purists angry that jazz musicians worked with a rock star

NDRU said:

How the hell Mother ended up there I will never know!

But in a recent interview with the Police, they were asked to name their favorite songs. Summers and Copeland both said Message in a Bottle, and Sting said it was a tie between Mother and Miss Gradenko

I don't think Andy was really interested in doing vocals, but since Sting wouldn't do it, that was the only way to get the songs on the albums. Andy's solo albums for the most part are all instrumental.

As JoeTyler said, The Police was Sting's band, period: something that Mr. Coopland couldn't and didn't deal with all to well either. Again, another band for which it wasn't a surprise -at least to me- when the lead singer told his mates, hasta luego. I love the Police albums, love them but really those guys had painted themselves in a corner musically; Sting probably thought it was best for him do his own thing and not get stuck on repeat.

MickyDolenz said:

NDRU said:

How the hell Mother ended up there I will never know!

But in a recent interview with the Police, they were asked to name their favorite songs. Summers and Copeland both said Message in a Bottle, and Sting said it was a tie between Mother and Miss Gradenko

I don't think Andy was really interested in doing vocals, but since Sting wouldn't do it, that was the only way to get the songs on the albums. Andy's solo albums for the most part are all instrumental.

It was also Behind My Cammel Andy did where Sting was pretty much like.. nah i'm not doing that And Andy did the bass for it if i am correct.

TD3 said:

As JoeTyler said, The Police was Sting's band, period: something that Mr. Coopland couldn't and didn't deal with all to well either. Again, another band for which it wasn't a surprise -at least to me- when the lead singer told his mates, hasta luego. I love the Police albums, love them but really those guys had painted themselves in a corner musically; Sting probably thought it was best for him do his own thing and not get stuck on repeat.

After Zenyatta came out, something definitely happened...

Stewart does have some rather funny smart assy thing's to say

I forget the exact quote.. but it was behind the music. And Stewart said Sting was really getting into his acting roles & talked about what is i am really the anti-christ? what if i am really evil? to which Stewart replied no Sting you are just a regular down to earth asshole i died

This documentary is probably the most definitive representation as to why The Police declined...

Sting was such an egomanaic during those years. WOW!

Btw what do you all think of the Syncronicity album?

I think it just might be my favorite Police album. Even though i think Sting mode had been completely come over by then.

To me that is just the ultimate yeah we rock & goodbye type thing

They made that album.. it was there biggest album and they just never made another one. Just bowed out with no apology and never made another album. That's some G-Shit

Gunsnhalen said:

Btw what do you all think of the Syncronicity album?

I think it just might be my favorite Police album. Even though i think Sting mode had been completely come over by then.

To me that is just the ultimate yeah we rock & goodbye type thing

They made that album.. it was there biggest album and they just never made another one. Just bowed out with no apology and never made another album. That's some G-Shit

Andy said they got back together a few years after Syncronicity to record an album. He said Sting & Stewart just started to fight again and the group spent a long time just recording one song, which was Don't Stand So Close To Me 86. So the album idea was scrapped.

MickyDolenz said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Btw what do you all think of the Syncronicity album?

I think it just might be my favorite Police album. Even though i think Sting mode had been completely come over by then.

To me that is just the ultimate yeah we rock & goodbye type thing

They made that album.. it was there biggest album and they just never made another one. Just bowed out with no apology and never made another album. That's some G-Shit

Andy said they got back together a few years after Syncronicity to record an album. He said Sting & Stewart just started to fight again and the group spent a long time just recording one song, which was Don't Stand So Close To Me 86. So the album idea was scrapped.

It seem's that the fued never ends really. I have a friend who worked a Police concert on there reunion tour.. and Another who just attended on a seperate show.

They said Sting was stiff, just stood there and played bass. And barely moved.. and that there was not a lot of chemistry there as once was sad to hear.

Gunsnhalen said:

MickyDolenz said:

Andy said they got back together a few years after Syncronicity to record an album. He said Sting & Stewart just started to fight again and the group spent a long time just recording one song, which was Don't Stand So Close To Me 86. So the album idea was scrapped.

It seem's that the fued never ends really. I have a friend who worked a Police concert on there reunion tour.. and Another who just attended on a seperate show.

They said Sting was stiff, just stood there and played bass. And barely moved.. and that there was not a lot of chemistry there as once was sad to hear.

According to the Wikipedia page about the Syncronicity album, that Sting and Andy got into a physical altercation while working on this album? Is this true? I tend to be a bit leery of taking Wikipedia as the undisputed truth on matters

Too bad to hear about the bitter feelings on the tour...kinda makes you wonder what fuels these types of fueds which last decades it seems. I can't help but to think jealously is the main culprit.

It should have been "Sting & the Cops" right from the start, lol

JoeTyler said:

It should have been "Sting & the Cops" right from the start, lol

Sting didn't even like the name "The Police". I think Stewart came up with it. Andy wasn't originally in the group. Here's Sting pre-Police:

I loved the Police and remember an electric evening, on a hot summer's night, 1978 in a tiny club in TO - The Edge. Those boys hit the big time FAST. One minute they were playing dives, the next - jetting world tours. Lots of $ was made in a very short time. $ affords a different kind of life, permits you to explore experiences and enjoy opportunities most of us can only dream about. Between his $, his immediate fame, his wife and their 'shared' extra curricular activities , all his homes, his books, his art, his environment and rainforest foundation a dedication, his Vineyard Estate in France anon anon....

This boy has mega millions and the fact that he can do it ALL, mmmm might make him a little more worldy than the average bear. If I had that much $, I might be a little picky and maybe suspect of alotta people. Natural. I'm not sure it's meglomaniaism.

He's okay. I can recognize his talent but his charisma is not that strong for me to become a fan.

He's done a lot of good music, but nothing great IMHO. And I couldn't love any artist who released something as bad as that godawful winter themed album from a few years back, which is the absolute worst CD I have ever spent money on.