Don't know if this has been talked about here before!

But Hip-Hop has constant references to the movie Scarface, i would say the movie played a big part in a lot of hip-hop movies and videos. Hell there is even the rapper Scarface

I Remember on cribs nearly every rapper had the Scarface dvd and Scarface memorabilia i mean nearly every single one they showed on there

I always wondered the positive and negative effects of the view... it seems rappers like the riches to rags story of Tony Montana. And how he came from nothing and became this hot shot and didn't take shit.

But it seems they also forget the fact that he kills his best friend, is disowned by his mother. Get's his sister killed and then he get's caps in the end

Any-who what do you guy's think about the influence Scarface had on hip-hop?

Here is a cool short doc that features Nas, Scarface, Andre 3000, Method Man, Eve, Snoop Dogg and others commenting on the movie.

Some REAL wisdom, from a businessman, a fan & a student of human nature:

Summa the stuff in "Scarface" is as true in REAL life, as it EVER was in Hip-Hop.....

Write THIS down, son....

Frank Lopez: Hey, Tony. Remember when I told you when you first started working for me, the guys that last in this business, are the guys who fly straight. Low-key, quiet. But the guys who want it all, chicas, champagne, flash... they don't last.
Tony Montana: [scoffs] You finished? Can I go?
Frank Lopez: Yes, I'm finished.
[Tony exits, shrugging with indifference]

Frank was right. 1983.

Gunsnhalen said:
I always wondered the positive and negative effects of the view... it seems rappers like the riches to rags story of Tony Montana. And how he came from nothing and became this hot shot and didn't take shit.

Its not just the rags to riches IMO. Its equally the display of power, the adrenaline of the lifestyle, the whole opportunity to live in a coke-induced egomaniacal high.. Insofar as we're short sighted all of those things seem appealing.

Maybe the worst single outside cultural influence on hip-hop ever.

And I love the movie.

Amazing that an over-the-top gangster remake bordering on parody made so long ago continues to have such influence... And, yes, I love it.

purplethunder3121 said:

Amazing that an over-the-top gangster remake bordering on parody made so long ago continues to have such influence... And, yes, I love it.

I agree . . . but you know, over time, I've noticed some of the social commentary isn't half-bad. Of course, the guns, chainsaws, thick Cuban accents, hottubs and "lil friends" are what influenced hip-hop, not the movie's politics.

namepeace said:

Maybe the worst single outside cultural influence on hip-hop ever.

And I love the movie.

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Wax Poetics, Issue 51, June 2012...

WP: What was it about that movie that rang true to you?

Nas: It wasn't just that movie. It was what I was seeing outside and what I was hearing. So, the movie, on top of that, just gave us another perspective on it. It gave us the cars....it gave us the taking-no-shit kind of vibe. It showed us how far it could go to be the man, from a fantasy point of view.

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"Lifestyle" was everything..it was just fashion. It didn't mean that Nas wanted to be Tony Montana.