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Reply #30 posted 06/08/12 2:07pm

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MS Trina, she got about 6 of them rug rats

Enough to have a band, she needs to put them all to work. lol

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Reply #31 posted 06/08/12 2:45pm

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She needs to consult with Joe Jackson re pimping out them kids

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Reply #32 posted 06/08/12 4:12pm

Identity	Lauryn Hill Responds to Tax Charges, Explains Dangers of Industry http://mslaurynhill.tumblr.com/
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Reply #33 posted 06/08/12 4:23pm

Timmy84	Identity said: Lauryn Hill Responds to Tax Charges, Explains Dangers of Industry http://mslaurynhill.tumblr.com/ Well... uh... hmm...
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Reply #34 posted 06/08/12 4:35pm

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Ms. Hill can keep talking in circles all she wants to; ol' girl will find herself walking in circles in a prison yard. She needs to snap out of it, file, and pay the amount of taxes she owes, nothing more or less.

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Reply #35 posted 06/08/12 4:36pm

Timmy84	TD3 said: Ms. Hill can keep talking in circles all she wants to; ol' girl will find herself walking in circles in a prison yard. She needs to snap out of it, file, and pay the amount of taxes she owes, nothing more or less. For real. She trippin'.
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Reply #36 posted 06/09/12 9:32am

SoulAlive	TD3 said: Ms. Hill can keep talking in circles all she wants to; ol' girl will find herself walking in circles in a prison yard. She needs to snap out of it, file, and pay the amount of taxes she owes, nothing more or less. Exactly! It's time for her to stop playing games,stop all these absurd "excuses" and pay her taxes like everybody else.Uncle Sam doesn't wanna hear any excuses.
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Reply #37 posted 06/09/12 11:20am

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Here we go again with the tax shit. These entertainers NEVER learn.

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Reply #38 posted 06/09/12 1:29pm

SPYZFAN1	This chick has truly lost her marbles....She better get it together or she'll be in the camp across from Wesley Snipes soon. I don't know why these celebs (lately R&B stars) don't think they have to pay their taxes.
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Reply #39 posted 06/09/12 7:29pm

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Only in the two most powerful industries - entertainment and politics - is it considered crazy to leave when continued success and fortune requires one to abandon one's principles.

I believe Lauryn Hill when she says she attempted to make things right. I don't know what the attempt consisted of but I believe her. Ever since she dropped out of the biz standard, she has been labeled crazy by collaborators and music execs (all of whom depended on her input for a check). The unplugged record was pretty awesome but too honest for an industry cloaked in sexual promiscuity, material obssession and even pedophilia.

All we hear is get money, get laid, get famous...and give up yourself in the process if that's what it takes. I believe Lauryn's account here, and I think she did what she needed to.

Now, Ms. Hill, pay them taxes and move on from this. You know they're coming for you with anything they got.

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Reply #40 posted 06/09/12 8:14pm

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Since the other topic was closed I'll paste her note here:

For the past several years, I have remained what others would consider underground. I did this in order to build a community of people, like-minded in their desire for freedom and the right to pursue their goals and lives without being manipulated and controlled by a media protected military industrial complex with a completely different agenda. Having put the lives and needs of other people before my own for multiple years, and having made hundreds of millions of dollars for certain institutions, under complex and sometimes severe circumstances, I began to require growth and more equitable treatment, but was met with resistance. I entered into my craft full of optimism (which I still possess), but immediately saw the suppressive force with which the system attempts to maintain it’s control over a given paradigm. I’ve seen people promote addiction, use sabotage, black listing, media bullying and any other coercion technique they could, to prevent artists from knowing their true value, or exercising their full power. These devices of control, no matter how well intentioned (or not), can have a devastating outcome on the lives of people, especially creative types who must grow and exist within a certain environment and according to a certain pace, in order to live and create optimally.

I kept my life relatively simple, even after huge successes, but it became increasingly obvious that certain indulgences and privileges were expected to come at the expense of my free soul, free mind, and therefore my health and integrity. So I left a more mainstream and public life, in order to wean both myself, and my family, away from a lifestyle that required distortion and compromise as a means for maintaining it. During this critical healing time, there were very few people accessible to me who had not already been seduced or affected by this machine, and therefore who could be trusted to not try and influence or coerce me back into a dynamic of compromise. Individual growth was expected to take place unnaturally, or stagnated outright, subject to marketing and politics. Addressing critical issues like pop culture cannibalism or its manipulation of the young at the expense of everything, was frowned upon and discouraged by limiting funding, or denying it outright. When one has a prolific creative output like I did/do, and is then forced to stop, the effects can be dangerous both emotionally and psychologically, both for the artist and those in need of that resource. It was critically important that I find a suitable pathway within which to exist, without being distorted or economically strong-armed.

During this period of crisis, much was said about me, both slanted and inaccurate, by those who had become dependent on my creative force, yet unwilling to fully acknowledge the importance of my contribution, nor compensate me equitably for it. This was done in an effort to smear my public image, in order to directly affect my ability to earn independently of this system. It took a long time to locate and nurture a community of people strong enough to resist the incredibly unhealthy tide, and more importantly see through it. If I had not been able to make contact with, and establish this community, my life, safety and freedom, would have been directly affected as well as the lives, safety and freedom of my family. Failure to create a non toxic, non exploitative environment was not an option.

As my potential to work, and therefore earn freely, was being threatened, I did whatever needed to be done in order to insulate my family from the climate of hostility, false entitlement, manipulation, racial prejudice, sexism and ageism that I was surrounded by. This was absolutely critical while trying to find and establish a new and very necessary community of healthy people, and also heal and detoxify myself and my family while raising my young children.

There were no exotic trips, no fleet of cars, just an all out war for safety, integrity, wholeness and health, without mistreatment denial, and/or exploitation. In order to liberate myself from those who found it ok to oppose my wholeness, free speech and integral growth by inflicting different forms of punitive action against it, I used my resources to sustain our safety and survival until I was able to restore my ability to earn outside of it!

When artists experience danger and crisis under the effects of this kind of insidious manipulation, everyone easily accepts that there was something either dysfunctional or defective with the artist, rather than look at, and fully examine, the system and its means and policies of exploiting/’doing business’. Not only is this unrealistic, it is very dark in its motivation, conveniently targeting the object of their hero worship by removing any evidence that they ‘needed’ or celebrated this very same resource just years, months or moments before. Since those who believe they need a hero/celebrity outnumber the actual heroes/celebrities, people feel safe and comfortably justified in numbers, committing egregious crimes in the name of the greater social ego. Ironically diminishing their own true hero-celebrity nature in the process.

It was this schism and the hypocrisy, violence and social cannibalism it enabled, that I wanted and needed to be freed from, not from art or music, but the suppression/repression and reduction of that art and music to a bottom line alone, without regard for anything else. Over-commercialization and its resulting restrictions and limitations can be very damaging and distorting to the inherent nature of the individual. I Love making art, I Love making music, these are as natural and necessary for me almost as breathing or talking. To be denied the right to pursue it according to my ability, as well as be properly acknowledged and compensated for it, in an attempt to control, is manipulation directed at my most basic rights! These forms of expression, along with others, effectively comprise my free speech! Defending, preserving, and protecting these rights are critically important, especially in a paradigm where veiled racism, sexism, ageism, nepotism, and deliberate economic control are still blatant realities!!!

Learning from the past, insulating friends and family from the influence of external manipulation and corruption, is far more important to me than being misunderstood for a season! I did not deliberately abandon my fans, nor did I deliberately abandon any responsibilities, but I did however put my safety, health and freedom and the freedom, safety and health of my family first over all other material concerns! I also embraced my right to resist a system intentionally opposing my right to whole and integral survival.

I conveyed all of this when questioned as to why I did not file taxes during this time period. Obviously, the danger I faced was not accepted as reasonable grounds for deferring my tax payments, as authorities, who despite being told all of this, still chose to pursue action against me, as opposed to finding an alternative solution.

My intention has always been to get this situation rectified. When I was working consistently without being affected by the interferences mentioned above, I filed and paid my taxes. This only stopped when it was necessary to withdraw from society, in order to guarantee the safety and well-being of myself and my family.

As this, and other areas of issue are resolved and set straight, I am able to get back to doing what I should be doing, the way it should be done. This is part of that process. To those supporters who were told that I abandoned them, that is untrue. I abandoned greed, corruption, and compromise, never you, and never the artistic gifts and abilities that sustained me.

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Reply #41 posted 06/10/12 5:17am

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I always thought Lauryn Hill was crazy talented turns out I was missing the 'and' in between

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Reply #42 posted 06/10/12 5:59am

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I've a lot of respect for Lauryn, dunno why she's called crazy for talking truth. Many high profile artists have spoken about the dark side of the music industry including Joni Mitchell, Barry Gibb, Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Prince and George Michael among many others.

Seems like she's in good company to me.

Hope she can resolve her tax issues and move on. It would be good to hear some new music from her before the world ends.

Best wishes to her.

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Reply #43 posted 06/10/12 6:01am

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Again in that new article Lauryn makes it seem that the world is against her......not to be cruel, but Lauryn, most of the world has know idea you are even still around, your about 15 years past relevance. Next thing is that the govt doesnt just come after you and file charges, they do make the effort to get payment other ways, so she is leaving out alot makinng it seem like because she is who she is, they want to get her, so im sure if we look into this more she probably ignored letters seeking payments. And last thing is that we can understand and even respect her idea for wanting to be left alone, but you cant resign from society and still take from it and not put anything back in, thats the law

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Reply #44 posted 06/10/12 6:36am

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I agree with her on some points, but uts the money that allows her to even think like this. If she was a cashier somewhere her taxes would be taken out ahead of time and that would be that. Trying to live outside a system you profit financially from can't make sense. She isn't so insulated that she didn't make money...or she wouldn't owe taxes. Consider bartering next time Ms. Hill.

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Reply #45 posted 06/10/12 7:57am

Harlepolis	She kinda brings to mind this discussion,,,
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Reply #46 posted 06/10/12 9:46am

nursev	This bitch is crazy. Most sane people can make their point in about two paragraphs not a damn thesis. I agree with december that she had chances to resolve this before it got to this point, but she ignored them. She needs to make rohan come off those marley dollars for those kids if she needs money. Miseducation was a great cd and its sad to have seen her squander all that talent.
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Reply #47 posted 06/10/12 10:33am

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Harlepolis said:

She kinda brings to mind this discussion,,,

With all due respect to Mr. Chappelle, a whole lot of people have stripped in public, have been known to wave guns in the street or "lose it" in other ways and they don't work in the Entertainment Industry. Its called LIFE. shrug I'm truly not being condescending; why some people are able to roll with the punches while others succumb to the trials and tribulations of life... I don't know.

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Reply #48 posted 06/10/12 11:09am

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Crazy or insanse are not words I throw around liberally. I don't know the ins nor the outs of Ms. Hills personal life and I can't say I care. I've heard tibits over the years that her life went into a tailspin after "The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill" released. It appears she bumped up against the reality that's life's not fair and it can be ruthless. I can understand her despair but she appears to have gotten so bogged down she isn't able to function in a productive way. I hope she's able to find her way through it all for her own peace of mind.

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Reply #49 posted 06/10/12 11:50am

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I do not understand how any of her tumblr blogging relates to her not paying taxes.

It's not like no one could find her. She was hiding better the years she still paid her taxes.

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Reply #50 posted 06/10/12 12:06pm

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lastdecember said:

Just speaking the truth she isnt the first nor the last but it bothers me more with her because she talks all this crap about the "common and the poor" and she has the cash, she still pimping royalities off the fugees stuff and her own debut, so she is a huge BS artist. So in this instance i cant seperate the Person from the MUSIC for the simple reasons, she has no new music to speak of, and she is full of shit on every level

I appreciate your opinion. Can't say that I disagree with you. I don't think she's full of shit, but I think she needs to get a grip on reality. Some people seem to lap up all her BS, but I take it for what I think it's worth.

This is what I feel as well. I think people lump her personal issues with the statements she makes and they shouldnt do that because all that she says isnt bullshit. Its not like shes talking out of her ass. She isnt saying anything that isnt true. I agree with all that say that isnt a reason to not pay taxes but she has been saying the same shit forever now.. And it seems to be the thing to call Lauryn crazy just because she speaks the truth.... Lauryn maybe be alot of things but one thing is for sure she aint about no bullshit

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Reply #51 posted 06/10/12 1:36pm

nursev	So every time we hear from Lauryn she is spouting off the same deranged shit and folks say that's not insanity-please! Everybody knows that the music industry is dark and evil-so do something about it. Channel that message and energy into something productive and pay your damn taxes like everybody else. [Edited 6/10/12 13:53pm]
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Reply #52 posted 06/10/12 1:40pm

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mjscarousal said:

Empress said:

I appreciate your opinion. Can't say that I disagree with you. I don't think she's full of shit, but I think she needs to get a grip on reality. Some people seem to lap up all her BS, but I take it for what I think it's worth.

This is what I feel as well. I think people lump her personal issues with the statements she makes and they shouldnt do that because all that she says isnt bullshit. Its not like shes talking out of her ass. She isnt saying anything that isnt true. I agree with all that say that isnt a reason to not pay taxes but she has been saying the same shit forever now.. And it seems to be the thing to call Lauryn crazy just because she speaks the truth.... Lauryn maybe be alot of things but one thing is for sure she aint about no bullshit

Um, actually, she is precisely about that bullshit. Your myopic, blind defense of her psychosis doesn't actually mar reality. She is fucking psychotic and uses her SAT handbook to write lengthy rants about nothing in particular all to defend the fact she is a shitty tax evading rich bitch.

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Reply #53 posted 06/10/12 1:43pm

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mjscarousal said:

Empress said:

I appreciate your opinion. Can't say that I disagree with you. I don't think she's full of shit, but I think she needs to get a grip on reality. Some people seem to lap up all her BS, but I take it for what I think it's worth.

This is what I feel as well. I think people lump her personal issues with the statements she makes and they shouldnt do that because all that she says isnt bullshit. Its not like shes talking out of her ass. She isnt saying anything that isnt true. I agree with all that say that isnt a reason to not pay taxes but she has been saying the same shit forever now.. And it seems to be the thing to call Lauryn crazy just because she speaks the truth.... Lauryn maybe be alot of things but one thing is for sure she aint about no bullshit

Agreed-the lady needs help.

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Reply #54 posted 06/10/12 2:31pm

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Harlepolis said:

She kinda brings to mind this discussion,,,

With all due respect to Mr. Chappelle, a whole lot of people have stripped in public, have been known to wave guns in the street or "lose it" in other ways and they don't work in the Entertainment Industry. Its called LIFE. I'm truly not being condescending; why some people are able to roll with the punches while others succumb to the trials and tribulations of life... I don't know.

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Reply #55 posted 06/10/12 2:33pm

Timmy84	Right. Plus Chappelle's celebrity (and career) is still sobering where other people who got into the news for "scandalous headlines" don't handle the situations as well.
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Reply #56 posted 06/10/12 2:37pm

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Timmy84 said:

It does seem funny that she goes on about how us normal folks get fucked over but yet she got more money than us lol

Uh speak for yourself.

How many chilren does this woman have? You pay 'bout 400 thousand dollars on every million earned. Money doesn't stretch like it use too; show ain't gonna stretch when she gets her 3 year plus penalties tax bill. Like I said, "Help Me Pay My Tax Bill Tour".

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Reply #57 posted 06/10/12 4:55pm

jeidee	Look at all this evil here, calling her a bitch and crazy and a crazy bitch. Then go listen to that illegal mp3 of lost ones. And that picture is obscene.
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Reply #58 posted 06/10/12 5:12pm

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mjscarousal said:

This is what I feel as well. I think people lump her personal issues with the statements she makes and they shouldnt do that because all that she says isnt bullshit. Its not like shes talking out of her ass. She isnt saying anything that isnt true. I agree with all that say that isnt a reason to not pay taxes but she has been saying the same shit forever now.. And it seems to be the thing to call Lauryn crazy just because she speaks the truth.... Lauryn maybe be alot of things but one thing is for sure she aint about no bullshit

Um, actually, she is precisely about that bullshit. Your myopic, blind defense of her psychosis doesn't actually mar reality. She is fucking psychotic and uses her SAT handbook to write lengthy rants about nothing in particular all to defend the fact she is a shitty tax evading rich bitch.

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Im not defending her.

I said that her comments shouldnt justify her not paying her taxes but that doesnt change the fact that I do agree with alot of her perspectives on the music industry.

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Reply #59 posted 06/10/12 5:21pm

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It's amazing to me how Lauryn went batshit and Erykah didn't and Erykah has half a football team herself. Then again, Erykah has a sense of humor about herself and I don't think you could accuse Lauryn of that. Then again, Erykah ain't one to let men victimize her-she does the victimizing. I don't know. Lauryn needs meds and a good vocal coach, cause she sounded rough as hell when Nas brought her out at that concert.

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