I prefer to just have the ones he made when he was alive..... but if I decided to check out the later ones which ones should I get?

I don't know. I'm not interested in posthumous releases unless you are Michael Jackson or Prince. Or Stevie Wonder. Or Jimi Hendrix.

Never bought it but judging from the songs, Makaveli: The Don Killuminati (The 7-Day Theory). The other posthumous albums I didn't really care for.

Oh well I have the main ones I need then . I love The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory.

Personally though I think 2Pac was basically running out of things to say. Half of the posthumous material were possibly from 1993, 1994 sessions saying the same line sometimes (mama don't cry or even if they kill me, they can't take the game from a young G). I swear I counted like 20 times he said the same shit. Maybe it was his trademark or something I don't know... lol but he had a lot more to say in 1991-1993...hmm...

Timmy84 said:

Personally though I think 2Pac was basically running out of things to say. Half of the posthumous material were possibly from 1993, 1994 sessions saying the same line sometimes (mama don't cry or even if they kill me, they can't take the game from a young G). I swear I counted like 20 times he said the same shit. Maybe it was his trademark or something I don't know... lol but he had a lot more to say in 1991-1993...hmm...

I feel if he was still alive he would be more into movies anyway. Probably would have did 2 more albums and devoted his time as a actor.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Personally though I think 2Pac was basically running out of things to say. Half of the posthumous material were possibly from 1993, 1994 sessions saying the same line sometimes (mama don't cry or even if they kill me, they can't take the game from a young G). I swear I counted like 20 times he said the same shit. Maybe it was his trademark or something I don't know... lol but he had a lot more to say in 1991-1993...hmm...

I feel if he was still alive he would be more into movies anyway. Probably would have did 2 more albums and devoted his time as a actor.

In one of his last interviews, he did say he was tired of rapping. I think he was also trying to try to be a music executive too since he was starting Makaveli Records so his mind wasn't much on rap then, which was rather interesting.

Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

I feel if he was still alive he would be more into movies anyway. Probably would have did 2 more albums and devoted his time as a actor.

In one of his last interviews, he did say he was tired of rapping. I think he was also trying to try to be a music executive too since he was starting Makaveli Records so his mind wasn't much on rap then, which was rather interesting.

I own several of his interiews on DVD. I feel the prison interview showed he wanted to do other things.

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

In one of his last interviews, he did say he was tired of rapping. I think he was also trying to try to be a music executive too since he was starting Makaveli Records so his mind wasn't much on rap then, which was rather interesting.

I own several of his interiews on DVD. I feel the prison interview showed he wanted to do other things.

I just saw that interview earlier this year. And he definitely had his mind on something else. It's also telling that he was a much calmer, quieter person in jail than he was when he was released. Which in a way I can understand because you're in prison, you can't act up (but folks don't give a damn there anyway) but he was almost serene. It was quite eerily how he returned to his image after he came out but "more relentless" as he would call it.

I really wouldn't consider Killuminati a posthumous album as he finished the whole album before dying, it wasn't until after his death when it was released though. If that album isn't considered a posthumous album, then I'd say forget about all of them (Greatest Hits aside). They don't really show what 2Pac had in mind with the songs.

aardvark15 said:

I really wouldn't consider Killuminati a posthumous album as he finished the whole album before dying, it wasn't until after his death when it was released though. If that album isn't considered a posthumous album, then I'd say forget about all of them (Greatest Hits aside). They don't really show what 2Pac had in mind with the songs.

I call it posthumous. He died when it got put out. That's why I call it posthumous. But yeah all the other 2Pac posthumous material was crap. Death Row played more into muddying up 2Pac's music than anyone else ever did.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

I call it posthumous. He died when it got put out. That's why I call it posthumous. But yeah all the other 2Pac posthumous material was crap. Death Row played more into muddying up 2Pac's music than anyone else ever did.

Agreed. Even though he had finished it before his death, it was released shortly after he died. To this day, I think that there were folks from Death Row who tweaked alot of the songs and dismantled the original intent that Pac wanted for the album. It is a mysterious record.

That's why I believed Suge or someone in the Death Row offices had some kind of vendetta against 'Pac up until he died. He had talked of releasing this album and then leaving the label where he would help other artists (both of East and West Coast origins) on Makaveli Records and had started the one-song One Nation project, which included his Jersey homeboys Naughty by Nature and some New York rappers. Then lo and behold he dies before all that could even take place.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

That's why I believed Suge or someone in the Death Row offices had some kind of vendetta against 'Pac up until he died. He had talked of releasing this album and then leaving the label where he would help other artists (both of East and West Coast origins) on Makaveli Records and had started the one-song One Nation project, which included his Jersey homeboys Naughty by Nature and some New York rappers. Then lo and behold he dies before all that could even take place.

Absolutely. There are subliminal messages all over that record that are so suspicious to me. I'm no conspiracy guy, but Pac had lost trust for alot of people by that time. [Edited 5/29/12 14:11pm]

Yeah it was like he couldn't even trust the people he kept in his company. That's why his bodyguards kept mentioning how nuts he was on the day he died because of a lot of shit.

Makavelis is not a postumous album as it was released 2 weeks after his death. It was already recorded and ready to go.

His best is Until The End of Time and R U Still Down 2nd. Better Dayz and the one with the Outlawz was jammin' too.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

silverchild said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Makavelis is not a postumous album as it was released 2 weeks after his death. It was already recorded and ready to go.

His best is Until The End of Time and R U Still Down 2nd. Better Dayz and the one with the Outlawz was jammin' too.

But the folks at Death Row immediately changed it at the last minute without Pac's consent. The released version is not the original configuration that Pac envisioned. I would say something else about the album, but I won't...

True, but it's not like R U Still Down released that next year.

The album was basically done.

silverchild said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Makavelis is not a postumous album as it was released 2 weeks after his death. It was already recorded and ready to go.

His best is Until The End of Time and R U Still Down 2nd. Better Dayz and the one with the Outlawz was jammin' too.

But the folks at Death Row immediately changed it at the last minute without Pac's consent. The released version is not the original configuration that Pac envisioned. I would say something else about the album, but I won't...

I can believe they change it. Death Row was notorious for doing that. That's why Afeni did what she did...

Timmy84 said: