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Reply #30 posted 05/22/12 4:55pm

Timmy84

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I know some may loathe this, but I still feel that Songs In The Key of Life is his undisputed masterpiece. Not as tight as his others, but hey Stevie's overindulgence and overambition never fails me. One of the perfectly constructed double albums ever. The first side is one of Stevie's best constructed sides. biggrin

Not much loathe but I still prefer the other albums before it. I always thought in terms of subject matter, he was as his all time best in Secret Life, Trouble Man, Music of My Mind, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Innervisions. smile

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Reply #31 posted 05/22/12 4:59pm

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silverchild said:


I know some may loathe this, but I still feel that Songs In The Key of Life is his undisputed masterpiece. Not as tight as his others, but hey Stevie's overindulgence and overambition never fails me. One of the perfectly constructed double albums ever. The first side is one of Stevie's best constructed sides. biggrin

Not much loathe but I still prefer the other albums before it. I always thought in terms of subject matter, he was as his all time best in Secret Life, Trouble Man, Music of My Mind, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Innervisions. smile



'70-'74 is just that period where Stevie explored. By the time Songs came around, Stevie was just wallowing deeper in what he explored previously. I just love the flow of Songs. No there is no real theme about it, but I guess that's what makes it extraordinary.
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Reply #32 posted 05/22/12 5:01pm

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Timmy84 said:

Not much loathe but I still prefer the other albums before it. I always thought in terms of subject matter, he was as his all time best in Secret Life, Trouble Man, Music of My Mind, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Innervisions. smile

'70-'74 is just that period where Stevie explored. By the time Songs came around, Stevie was just wallowing deeper in what he explored previously. I just love the flow of Songs. No there is no real theme about it, but I guess that's what makes it extraordinary.

Well he DID name it Songs in the Key of Life lol

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Reply #33 posted 05/22/12 5:02pm

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I know some may loathe this, but I still feel that Songs In The Key of Life is his undisputed masterpiece. Not as tight as his others, but hey Stevie's overindulgence and overambition never fails me. One of the perfectly constructed double albums ever. The first side is one of Stevie's best constructed sides. biggrin

nod Definetly

For me it goes

1. Songs In The Key Of Life

2. Journey Through The Secret Life Of Plants

3. Talking Book

4. Innervisions

5. Fulfillingness's First Finale

6. Music Of My Mind

7. Hotter Than July

8. Where I'm Coming From

9. Signed, Sealed, & Delivered

10. In Square Circle/ Jungle Fever (Tie)

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Reply #34 posted 05/22/12 5:02pm

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silverchild said:

I know some may loathe this, but I still feel that Songs In The Key of Life is his undisputed masterpiece. Not as tight as his others, but hey Stevie's overindulgence and overambition never fails me. One of the perfectly constructed double albums ever. The first side is one of Stevie's best constructed sides. biggrin

Not much loathe but I still prefer the other albums before it. I always thought in terms of subject matter, he was as his all time best in Secret Life, Trouble Man, Music of My Mind, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Innervisions. smile

That's a Marvin gaye album lol

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Reply #35 posted 05/22/12 5:04pm

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silverchild said:


Timmy84 said:


Not much loathe but I still prefer the other albums before it. I always thought in terms of subject matter, he was as his all time best in Secret Life, Trouble Man, Music of My Mind, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Innervisions. smile



'70-'74 is just that period where Stevie explored. By the time Songs came around, Stevie was just wallowing deeper in what he explored previously. I just love the flow of Songs. No there is no real theme about it, but I guess that's what makes it extraordinary.

Well he DID name it Songs in the Key of Life lol



True. biggrin Stevie was showing all his cards on that one, in one impressive sweep. I can honestly say, as of 2012, that there is no song on this album that can be classifed as filler. There are some quirks here and there, but Songs, along the albums that preceeded it, are flawless. Can't go wrong with '70-'79 Stevie. thumbs up!
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Reply #36 posted 05/22/12 5:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

Well he DID name it Songs in the Key of Life lol

True. biggrin Stevie was showing all his cards on that one, in one impressive sweep. I can honestly say, as of 2012, that there is no song on this album that can be classifed as filler. There are some quirks here and there, but Songs, along the albums that preceeded it, are flawless. Can't go wrong with '70-'79 Stevie. thumbs up!

Word. Not a bad song on none of those albums. Not a bad one at all! cool

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Reply #37 posted 05/22/12 5:13pm

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But it's funny that this is the 40th anniversary of Talking Book. Next to In Square Circle, Talking Book is one of the Stevie records I have in heavy rotation at the moment.
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Reply #38 posted 05/23/12 3:05am

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Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book... [img:$uid]http://steviewonder.es/en/images/syreeta1972.jpg[/img:$uid] Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]

I mentioned it in my reply smile

It one of the best produced albums ever. Doesn't even sound like a "side" project to me.

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Reply #39 posted 05/23/12 3:54am

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People don't talk about the Syreeta album in conjunction with Talking Book because far fewer people have heard it. I don't even think that Syreeta is currently in print. It is a fairly obscure album.

Isn't that kind of like expecting people to reference Apollonia 6 when discussing Purple Rain or Jill Jones when referencing Sign 'O' the Times? It just doesn't seem realistic.

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Reply #40 posted 05/23/12 4:07am

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People don't talk about the Syreeta album in conjunction with Talking Book because far fewer people have heard it. I don't even think that Syreeta is currently in print. It is a fairly obscure album.



Isn't that kind of like expecting people to reference Apollonia 6 when discussing Purple Rain or Jill Jones when referencing Sign 'O' the Times? It just doesn't seem realistic.




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Reply #41 posted 05/23/12 4:24am

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silverchild said:


Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book... Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]


I mentioned it in my reply smile



It one of the best produced albums ever. Doesn't even sound like a "side" project to me.



It doesn't seem like a "side" project. Honestly, I consider those Stevie-produced Syreeta albums to be part of those run of albums Stevie released in the 70s. They go well seamlessly together.
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Reply #42 posted 05/23/12 4:42am

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rialb said:

People don't talk about the Syreeta album in conjunction with Talking Book because far fewer people have heard it. I don't even think that Syreeta is currently in print. It is a fairly obscure album.

Isn't that kind of like expecting people to reference Apollonia 6 when discussing Purple Rain or Jill Jones when referencing Sign 'O' the Times? It just doesn't seem realistic.

[img:$uid]http://static.tumblr.com/udtwran/xfXlhm31j/whatever.gif[/img:$uid] [Edited 5/23/12 4:13am]

Would you have been more receptive had I used Carmen Electra/ prince or Child of the Sun/The Gold Experience as examples? razz

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Reply #43 posted 05/23/12 4:46am

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silverchild said:


rialb said:

People don't talk about the Syreeta album in conjunction with Talking Book because far fewer people have heard it. I don't even think that Syreeta is currently in print. It is a fairly obscure album.



Isn't that kind of like expecting people to reference Apollonia 6 when discussing Purple Rain or Jill Jones when referencing Sign 'O' the Times? It just doesn't seem realistic.



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Would you have been more receptive had I used Carmen Electra/ prince or Child of the Sun/The Gold Experience as examples? razz



Nah. You missed my entire point. lol Do those albums have any "thematic" connection to them?
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Reply #44 posted 05/23/12 7:26am

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falloff @ the comparison to Apollonia 6 and Carmen. ohgoon

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Reply #45 posted 05/23/12 9:17am

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Awesome album. He'll never able to beat the 71-79 era.

I love Stevie but I agree with this

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