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Stevie Wonder's "Talking Book" 40th Anniversary
Released October 1972, this was Stevie's first fully self-produced album. He wrote or co-wrote all the songs, and plays most of the instruments on it: keyboards, drums, and harmonica.
You Are the Sunshine of My Life Maybe Your Baby You and I (We Can Conquer the World) Tuesday Heartbreak You've Got It Bad Girl Superstition Big Brother Blame It on the Sun Looking for Another Pure Love I Believe (When I Fall in Love It Will Be Forever)
By that 1972, Stevie Wonder had already spent nearly a decade churning out hits for Motown as Little Stevie. But at age 22 he no longer wanted to follow the Motown formula, a formula designed to produce hit singles rather than innovation. So Wonder struck out on his own. Over the next decade, he experimented with a variety of instruments and developed a sound that we still identify as uniquely his own. He recorded a series of albums that proved he was a master of lush ballads as well as gritty funk...
"The period of "Talking Book" was a period of great explosion in synthesis. It was the first time that you heard a lot of Clavinet. And when you hear that Clavinet intro to "Superstition," what you're hearing is someone who is interacting with an instrument and figuring out how to make it sound like him. No one else plays the Clavinet like Stevie Wonder does. He made it speak."
..."Talking Book" marked the arrival of artist as one-man band in popular music...
Stevie Wonder says "Talking Book" was a turning point, his first real growth as a boy becoming a man. And making all of the artistic decisions himself and relying less on Motown head Berry Gordy for direction, Stevie Wonder proved his independence as an artist.
"Talking Book" crystallized Wonder's talent as a singer, writer and producer. He proved he could write grooves to keep you on the dance floor and, at the same time, make you think about social problems. And on the other side, he could melt your heart.
Stevie, looking back at Talking Book:
"I wanted to just express various many things that I felt—the political point of view that I have, the social point of view that I have, the passions, emotion and love that I felt, compassion, the fun of love that I felt, the whole thing in the beginning with a joyful love, the pain of love."
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Reply #1 posted 05/21/12 1:03pm
aardvark15 |
Awesome album. He'll never able to beat the 71-79 era. |
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Reply #2 posted 05/21/12 1:11pm
purplethunder3 121 |
aardvark15 said:
Awesome album. He'll never able to beat the 71-79 era.
Yup, he put out some unbeatable music in that time period... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #4 posted 05/21/12 3:38pm
Harlepolis |
Poured his heart on wax. My fave album from him EVER!
That and the companion Syreeta album that came from the same year are sheer ear heaven. |
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/12 3:54pm
aardvark15 |
Harlepolis said:
Poured his heart on wax. My fave album from him EVER!
My 3rd favorite |
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/12 4:45pm
silverchild |
One of the greatest records on love and heartbreak ever laid on wax. Stevie laid his soul bare on this one and was fearless. Went through some deep stuff too. Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/12 5:17pm
Adisa |
AWESOME lp! I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! |
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/12 11:39pm
Identity |
"Blame it on The Sun" maps heartbreak and regret so perfectly. Such a beautiful song. |
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Reply #10 posted 05/22/12 12:09am
Gunsnhalen |
aardvark15 said:
Awesome album. He'll never able to beat the 71-79 era.
So true
Stevies Classic 70's period is my all time favorite set of album to album years right behind Dylans 60's era.
I Wonder if Signed, Sealed, Delivered will ever get a big treatment? i feel it's a more underrated album from his classic era. [Edited 5/22/12 0:18am] Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Reply #11 posted 05/22/12 1:01am
alphastreet |
I haven't listened to the album in a few years. I know that's bad. I re-read the lyrics to Blame It On the Sun and can totally relate to it now, feeling emotional |
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Reply #12 posted 05/22/12 12:33pm
aardvark15 |
Gunsnhalen said:
I Wonder if Signed, Sealed, Delivered will ever get a big treatment? i feel it's a more underrated album from his classic era.
[Edited 5/22/12 0:18am]
Well considering it's not from the classic era, probably not |
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Reply #13 posted 05/22/12 2:25pm
rialb |
smoothcriminal12 said:
Released October 1972, this was Stevie's first fully self-produced album. He wrote or co-wrote all the songs, and plays most of the instruments on it: keyboards, drums, and harmonica.
He self-produced Where I'm Coming From and Music of My Mind before Talking Book. |
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Reply #14 posted 05/22/12 3:23pm
silverchild |
Gunsnhalen said:
aardvark15 said:
Awesome album. He'll never able to beat the 71-79 era.
So true
Stevies Classic 70's period is my all time favorite set of album to album years right behind Dylans 60's era.
I Wonder if Signed, Sealed, Delivered will ever get a big treatment? i feel it's a more underrated album from his classic era. [Edited 5/22/12 0:18am]
That is a plan someone at Motown/Universal or Hip-O should consider, even though many don't consider it to be in that span of classic albums. Signed, Sealed, and Delivered and Where I'm Coming From are highly underrated by so many and they are classics in my book. Those albums sparked the development of his artistic freedom anyways. [Edited 5/22/12 15:23pm]Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #15 posted 05/22/12 3:38pm
silverchild |
Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book...
Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #16 posted 05/22/12 4:06pm
smoothcriminal 12 |
silverchild said:
Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book... [img:$uid]http://steviewonder.es/en/images/syreeta1972.jpg[/img:$uid] Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]
I love her first two albums. |
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Reply #17 posted 05/22/12 4:14pm
Timmy84 |
silverchild said:
Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book... [img:$uid]http://steviewonder.es/en/images/syreeta1972.jpg[/img:$uid] Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]
I love this album. I actually prefer this over Talking Book for some odd reason... maybe it's just the way the songs went and how she sung them. Stevie by comparison was all over the place in Talking Book. |
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Reply #18 posted 05/22/12 4:20pm
silverchild |
Timmy84 said:
silverchild said: Why is it that people don't talk about this album when bringing up Talking Book... Underrated as hell, but equally brilliant. As a matter of fact, Syreeta's first two Stevie-produced records go hand in hand with the quality of Stevie's legendary album run at that time. Syreeta's debut album shares the same warmth and introspection that Talking Book does. It's basically from a strained woman's perspective and Stevie's is from a strained man's perspective. Given that their relationship was at the seams by '72, it's not surprising that they took out all of their frustration and pain with these albums. [Edited 5/22/12 15:39pm]
I love this album. I actually prefer this over Talking Book for some odd reason... maybe it's just the way the songs went and how she sung them. Stevie by comparison was all over the place in Talking Book. Timmy, you are a mess! But I have to be honest, I never understood why "Superstition" and "Big Brother" was on Talking Book. Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #19 posted 05/22/12 4:25pm
Timmy84 |
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
I love this album. I actually prefer this over Talking Book for some odd reason... maybe it's just the way the songs went and how she sung them. Stevie by comparison was all over the place in Talking Book.
Timmy, you are a mess! But I have to be honest, I never understood why "Superstition" and "Big Brother" was on Talking Book.
"Superstition" was a Motown decision - yeah I know *big gasp*. Apparently Stevie was trying to give it to Jeff Beck and Berry Gordy told him "put it out" so Stevie put it out. Jeff was upset for a minute but he got over it. I also think Jeff wrote part of the bridge or altered something and Stevie recorded it. Who knows how he put "Big Brother" in it since most of the album was supposed to be a good/bad romance concept album and those two songs interrupted the flow to me. Great songs but as far as people calling it a concept album, I can't really call it such. |
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Reply #20 posted 05/22/12 4:27pm
silverchild |
Timmy84 said:
silverchild said: Timmy84 said:
I love this album. I actually prefer this over Talking Book for some odd reason... maybe it's just the way the songs went and how she sung them. Stevie by comparison was all over the place in Talking Book.
Timmy, you are a mess! But I have to be honest, I never understood why "Superstition" and "Big Brother" was on Talking Book.
"Superstition" was a Motown decision - yeah I know *big gasp*. Apparently Stevie was trying to give it to Jeff Beck and Berry Gordy told him "put it out" so Stevie put it out. Jeff was upset for a minute but he got over it. I also think Jeff wrote part of the bridge or altered something and Stevie recorded it. Who knows how he put "Big Brother" in it since most of the album was supposed to be a good/bad romance concept album and those two songs interrupted the flow to me. Great songs but as far as people calling it a concept album, I can't really call it such. Wow. I knew that Motown had to have a say in that. Just like Innervisions where you have songs like "Golden Lady" and "All In Love Is Fair." Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #21 posted 05/22/12 4:29pm
Timmy84 |
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
"Superstition" was a Motown decision - yeah I know *big gasp*. Apparently Stevie was trying to give it to Jeff Beck and Berry Gordy told him "put it out" so Stevie put it out. Jeff was upset for a minute but he got over it. I also think Jeff wrote part of the bridge or altered something and Stevie recorded it. Who knows how he put "Big Brother" in it since most of the album was supposed to be a good/bad romance concept album and those two songs interrupted the flow to me. Great songs but as far as people calling it a concept album, I can't really call it such.
Wow. I knew that Motown had to have a say in that. Just like Innervisions where you have songs like "Golden Lady" and "All In Love Is Fair."
Don't forget "You Are the Sunshine" for Talking Book. My feeling about it was Motown felt that they wouldn't take a Stevie album without at least a catchy song or two just so people can deal with the more serious stuff. I don't know, the flow of the albums he put out were over the place in comparison to Marvin and Smokey, who basically had one concept (or the Isley Brothers, who had two things in mind - funk you up and love you down - in the '70s). Also Stevie was so full of ideas that he just put in it to see how it would do. |
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Reply #22 posted 05/22/12 4:32pm
silverchild |
Timmy84 said:
silverchild said: Timmy84 said:
"Superstition" was a Motown decision - yeah I know *big gasp*. Apparently Stevie was trying to give it to Jeff Beck and Berry Gordy told him "put it out" so Stevie put it out. Jeff was upset for a minute but he got over it. I also think Jeff wrote part of the bridge or altered something and Stevie recorded it. Who knows how he put "Big Brother" in it since most of the album was supposed to be a good/bad romance concept album and those two songs interrupted the flow to me. Great songs but as far as people calling it a concept album, I can't really call it such.
Wow. I knew that Motown had to have a say in that. Just like Innervisions where you have songs like "Golden Lady" and "All In Love Is Fair."
Don't forget "You Are the Sunshine" for Talking Book. My feeling about it was Motown felt that they wouldn't take a Stevie album without at least a catchy song or two just so people can deal with the more serious stuff. I don't know, the flow of the albums he put out were over the place in comparison to Marvin and Smokey, who basically had one concept (or the Isley Brothers, who had two things in mind - funk you up and love you down - in the '70s). Also Stevie was so full of ideas that he just put in it to see how it would do. Actually I can understand the placement of "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" on the album, even though it was Motown's decision. But I definitely agree with the whole "concept album" madness and how many associate it with Stevie. Stevie Wonder Presents Stevie Wonder is another story altogether though! Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #23 posted 05/22/12 4:34pm
Timmy84 |
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
Don't forget "You Are the Sunshine" for Talking Book. My feeling about it was Motown felt that they wouldn't take a Stevie album without at least a catchy song or two just so people can deal with the more serious stuff. I don't know, the flow of the albums he put out were over the place in comparison to Marvin and Smokey, who basically had one concept (or the Isley Brothers, who had two things in mind - funk you up and love you down - in the '70s). Also Stevie was so full of ideas that he just put in it to see how it would do.
Actually I can understand the placement of "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" on the album, even though it was Motown's decision. But I definitely agree with the whole "concept album" madness and how many associate it with Stevie. Stevie Wonder Presents Stevie Wonder is another story altogether though!
Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta is one of the greatest concept albums of all time. |
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Reply #24 posted 05/22/12 4:37pm
silverchild |
Timmy84 said:
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
Don't forget "You Are the Sunshine" for Talking Book. My feeling about it was Motown felt that they wouldn't take a Stevie album without at least a catchy song or two just so people can deal with the more serious stuff. I don't know, the flow of the albums he put out were over the place in comparison to Marvin and Smokey, who basically had one concept (or the Isley Brothers, who had two things in mind - funk you up and love you down - in the '70s). Also Stevie was so full of ideas that he just put in it to see how it would do.
Actually I can understand the placement of "You Are The Sunshine Of My Life" on the album, even though it was Motown's decision. But I definitely agree with the whole "concept album" madness and how many associate it with Stevie. Stevie Wonder Presents Stevie Wonder is another story altogether though!
Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta is one of the greatest concept albums of all time.
So is Stevie Wonder's Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants. [Edited 5/22/12 16:38pm]Check me out and add me on:
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Reply #25 posted 05/22/12 4:38pm
aardvark15 |
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta is one of the greatest concept albums of all time.
So is Stevie Wonder's Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants. [Edited 5/22/12 16:38pm]
My 2nd favorite album by him |
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Reply #26 posted 05/22/12 4:43pm
Timmy84 |
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said:
Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta is one of the greatest concept albums of all time.
So is Stevie Wonder's Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants. [Edited 5/22/12 16:38pm]
True! Musically, that's one of the best albums he ever put together. |
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Reply #27 posted 05/22/12 4:44pm
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aardvark15 said:
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said: So is Stevie Wonder's Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants. [Edited 5/22/12 16:38pm]
My 2nd favorite album by him
Me too, my favorite being Innervisons |
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Reply #28 posted 05/22/12 4:44pm
aardvark15 |
Timmy84 said:
silverchild said:
Timmy84 said: So is Stevie Wonder's Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants. [Edited 5/22/12 16:38pm]
True! Musically, that's one of the best albums he ever put together.
Criminally underrated. |
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Reply #29 posted 05/22/12 4:53pm
silverchild |
I know some may loathe this, but I still feel that Songs In The Key of Life is his undisputed masterpiece. Not as tight as his others, but hey Stevie's overindulgence and overambition never fails me. One of the perfectly constructed double albums ever. The first side is one of Stevie's best constructed sides. Check me out and add me on:
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