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Justin Bieber Determined To Make A Lasting Impact

Justin Bieber: Photos From The Forbes Cover Shoot

This story appears on the June 4, 2012 cover of Forbes.

­­Leaning on a soundboard in a Hollywood recording studio, Justin Bieber is about to make me an offer that would prompt instant hysteria among millions of American teenage girls: Do I want to be the first person outside of his inner circle to hear some rough cuts he’s considering for his upcoming album, Believe?

“You’ve gotta hear this, it’s crazy,” gushes the singer. “It’s called ‘Die in Your Arms.’” A moment later his ubiquitous lilt surges full volume from the stadium-quality speakers, a soulful love song reminiscent of early Jackson 5. Next he plays “Happier When We’re Together,” a ballad in which he worries a girlfriend will be unfaithful while he’s on tour. Standing up as his own beatboxing merges seamlessly with a drum machine at the beginning of “You’re the One,” he does an impromptu variation of the Moonwalk.

One can forgive him for the victory dance. Since his debut three years ago Bieber has sold 15 million albums, grossing $150 million on 157 tour dates across two dozen countries along the way. His biopic, Never Say Never, pulled in $30 million on its opening weekend, just shy of the ­concert-film record, and racked up $100 million at the box office in total. His fragrance, Someday, debuted last June and did $60 million in retail sales during its first six months on the market. Those income streams helped Bieber personally earn an estimated $55 million over the past 12 months and $108 million over the past two years.

Bieber's Business Brain: Scooter

“You have humans, and you have aliens,” says veteran hitmaker Timothy “Timbaland” Mosley, one of the producers on Believe. “I think he’s half-human and half-alien.”

Even more impressive than Bieber’s earning power: his vast social media reach, part of the reason he ranks third on this year’s Celebrity 100 list. Bieber boasts 21 million Twitter followers—more than any person on Earth not named Lady Gaga. His 43 million Facebook fans are more than Mitt Romney’s and Barack Obama’s put together. With 740 million views, his breakout ballad, “Baby,” is the most-watched video in YouTube history; if you assume three minutes per song, his VEVO channel’s 2.4 billion impressions are enough to provide one minute of video to every person on the planet.

Full coverage: The Celebrity 100

Bieber’s influence and moneymaking talents are fairly well established. It’s far more surprising what he’s doing with that cash. He provides a hint in the dim octagonal recording studio, owned by Rodney Jerkins, who had a hand in many of Michael Jackson’s late-career hits and is now producing songs for Believe. His dancing done, Bieber quickly settles into a chair behind a keyboard. Inspiration has struck: He starts tapping out a fresh beat, as comfortable with the sophisticated equipment as a pop star a generation earlier would be strumming a rhythm guitar. “Can you loop that, what I did?” he asks the engineer at one point. Bieber eventually turns to me: “The tech aspect is just fun for me.”

Bieber’s tech savvy infuses more than his music—it’s also a core strategy for how the entertainer intends to translate all that fame and fast money into enduring riches. Instinctively, he embraces a Peter Lynch model of investing—“I’m not going to invest in something I don’t like; I have to believe in the product”—but rather than load up on buy-what-you-know value stocks, the singer has been quietly plowing millions into private tech startups. According to his manager, Bieber holds stakes in a dozen such companies. FORBES was able to verify four: messaging platform Tinychat, social-­curation app Stamped, gaming outfit Sojo Studios and, most critically, Spot­i­fy, the disruptive music service founded by Daniel Ek and backed by everyone from Sean Parker to Li Ka-shing.

These deals aren’t equity-for-endorsement trades. Bieber put cash into each one, and few of the companies have promoted their links to the singer. Spotify, which is still working to establish itself in the U.S., wouldn’t even discuss Bieber’s investment. Yet he’s among the most prominent examples in the new Hollywood game: tech-savvy celebrities using their fame to secure stakes in Silicon Valley darlings (see gallery) while ordinary venture capitalists salivate on the sidelines.

Bieber has come a long way in the finance department since I first broached the subject with him a bit over a year ago. “I have a business manager,” he told me at the 2011 Grammys. “That basically sums up the question.” Today that’s changed: “I do calls every week with my business manager and my lawyer,” he says. “Each week I’m learning something about my business and what I need to know for my career.”

Yet the core truth of last year’s statement remains. Bieber is still a cocky, jokey teenager who, rightfully, thinks he has the world by the short hairs. His eye for technology and trends ultimately determines the go or no-go—and some of the investments have come through his own contacts—but the guy actively scouting deals, whether venture capital investments or brand extensions, has a nickname worthy of a teen idol’s manager: Scott Braun, known to all as Scooter. “We’re always looking for the next thing,” he says. “If we’re coming in and putting his name to something, and his brand and likeness and his social media power, then we will try and figure out a proper compensation.”

The story of how Braun discovered Bieber four years ago became so immediately legendary that the latter is loath to go there. “You want me to tell you how I got started, bro?” complains Bieber, before relenting. “I really don’t want to.”

Bieber grew up in Stratford, Ont., a town of 30,000 two hours west of Toronto. His mother was 18 when she gave birth to her only child, and she raised him mostly by herself in state-subsidized housing. “Yellow shag carpets,” he remembers, “and we had mice.”

He quickly saturated those carpets with sound waves, teaching himself to play drums, trumpet, piano and guitar. At age 12 he earned second place in a local talent competition for his rendition of Ne-Yo’s “So Sick.” His mother posted videos of his performance on YouTube for friends who couldn’t make the show; soon she was regularly uploading videos of her son covering soul songs.

Around the same time, Braun was doubling as an Atlanta party promoter and a small-time music industry executive. When singer Akon asked him to research an unrelated YouTube sensation, Braun accidentally came across one of Bieber’s videos—a nine-figure misclick. Astonished by the youngster’s tone and range, Braun tracked down Bieber’s mother and offered to fly her and her son to Atlanta to sing for him and R&B crooner Usher.

“It was just crazy to me because I didn’t really think that it was possible,” Bieber says. “I lived in such a small town and things like that didn’t really happen.” Before Web 2.0 they probably never did. Yet there was Bieber, blowing away Braun and Usher in March 2008. The duo quickly signed him to their joint venture, Raymond Braun Media Group, and Braun became Bieber’s manager. By September they’d landed him a record deal with Universal Music Group’s Island Def Jam. His first single cracked the top 20 after its July 2009 release, and his debut EP, My World, catapulted him to mainstream fame that fall. In December President Obama invited him to sing at the White House, and he wowed a national audience with a per­for­mance on Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve.

This cultural phenomenon, born of social media, took a modicum of fame and tossed it into the digital echo chamber. Bieber opened a Twitter account in June 2009 and by September had amassed 1 million followers. (In 2010 a Twitter employee said 3% of the company’s infrastructure was dedicated to handling Bieber-related tweets.) He was also an early adopter of Instagram, the photo-sharing service recently purchased by Facebook for $1 billion, and boasts 1.5 million followers there, more than any other user (his girlfriend, singer/actress Selena Gomez, ranks third with 1.4 million).

“It used to be there was a mystery to the artist,” says Bieber. “Now there’s, like, no mystery—the fans want the connection, they want to see you Instagramming at a coffee shop in the morning.”

With such social media dexterity Bieber has built himself a formidable platform. The 30-year-old Braun’s challenge: sustaining the phenomenon. In many ways Bieber and Braun are the most intriguing talent-manager combo since Elvis and Colonel Tom Parker. Both managers wielded the influence that comes from discovering their charges young, and both faced the challenge of moving them past the fickle market of hysterical, screaming teenage girls.

But whereas Parker took any deal he could and up to 50% of the action to make sure his once-in-a-lifetime meal ticket turned into a decades-long feast, Braun is more judicious. His deal with Bieber is closer to the standard 15%; he thinks long-term success requires selectivity, not ubiquity, and aligning all deals with Bieber’s brand. “I don’t let him get involved in anything unless he likes it,” he says. Turning Bieber into the world’s most unconventional venture capitalist is simply a sophisticated manifestation of that philosophy.

Braun first came up with the idea of getting Bieber to invest in startups three years ago. Just as Diddy partnered with Ciroc and Jay-Z launched a Reebok sneaker line, it made sense for Bieber to directly benefit from something he could promote to his core audience. But teenagers aren’t allowed to buy vodka, and they generally don’t have the disposable income necessary to buy $150 shoes. What they do consume in nearly unlimited quantities, however, is social media.

“I said, ‘This is a space where you can move the needle and you can actually be a part of something that’s more than just your money working,’” Braun recalls. “‘You worked hard to get to this point, and these [startups] are benefiting over what you’re doing. … You should be a part of that process.’” Adds Bieber: “Social media helped launch my career. Without the Internet and without YouTube, I wouldn’t have gotten the chance to put my music out there and have people hear it.”

Bieber’s first investment came in 2009, and though he won’t reveal that company’s name, he’s been on a venture capital roll ever since. Last January he and Braun joined a $1.5 million financing round for Tinychat, along with A-Grade (the investment fund run by actor Ashton Kutcher, billionaire Ron Burkle and Guy Oseary, Madonna’s manager). In May Bieber joined Google Ventures and Bain Capital to invest in Stamped, an app that allows users to rate everything from restaurants to music. Spotify was the big one, as founder Daniel Ek recruited a handful of recording artists to buy in while seeking industry credibility ahead of his company’s U.S. launch last year. Next up: Viddy, a video-sharing app with an Instagram-like interface.

“Scooter has a team that helps find investments,” says Bieber. “Usually we work together. If I find something, I bring it to the table.”

In the latter camp, Ellen DeGeneres turned Bieber on to social gaming company Sojo Studios, and he soon joined her as an investor. One of his favorite products: a Farm­Ville-esque Facebook game called WeTopia, where players collect virtual points that can be redeemed as donations to real charities. Neither Bieber nor his manager will reveal any other startups he’s backed, but Braun says they’re all still in business.

In a typical Bieber deal he’ll put in about $250,000 at the favorable pricing generally reserved for smart money—the kind of strategic partners that help a company long term. Braun won’t disclose the size of Bieber’s portfolio but says it’s between 2% and 5% of the singer’s net worth. FORBES puts Bieber’s fortune at about $80 million, which translates to somewhere in the ballpark of $3 million in venture investments.

There will surely be more loot to put to work. This fall Bieber embarks on a yearlong tour, hitting every continent but Antarctica; promoter AEG Live has guaranteed him $80 million for 125 concerts. Anyone who sees Bieber as a fad should take note of that deal. “He’s not just an American domestic phenomenon, he’s a worldwide phenomenon,” says Randy Phillips, AEG’s chief.

On the tour Bieber will be showcasing the more grown-up fare of Believe—a crucial step as he tries to transition from teen idol to adult icon. “It’s not really a transition, it’s just opening doors,” he insists. “I’m trying to make music that’s a little bit more mature and that can appeal to all ages, and I’m not trying to lose my younger fans.”

Some compare this blueprint with that of another Justin—Timberlake, a crossover former boy-band star with venture capitalist proclivities. Similarly Bieber is taking acting more seriously, planning to costar with Mark Wahlberg in a basketball flick next year. But Bieber maintains there’s only one role model: Michael Jackson, who converted child stardom to icon status. Inspired by the King of Pop’s largesse, he says he includes a charitable component in every deal. “People were fine with buying 20 CDs from Michael Jackson because he went and did good things.”

It’s no coincidence that Bieber went with AEG’s Phillips, a longtime Jackson partner, to promote his tour. The same goes for his choice of Jerkins as an album producer. The first day Bieber went to the studio, Jerkins played him footage of Jackson in the recording booth; Bieber watched it twice. “There’s something about Justin, he has this effect that reminds me of Michael,” says Jerkins. “It’s not just music, it’s everything—it’s his spirit, his personality.”

And why not? Jackson was the genre-defining star of his generation’s media breakthrough, MTV. Bieber has a legitimate claim on the social media crown (regarding Lady Gaga, Bieber is dismissive: “She didn’t have online fans before she had mainstream fans”). And just as Jackson’s bankruptcy-staving investment was the thing he understood best—the Beatles catalog—perhaps someday Bieber will live well not from the songs he sings but the assets they let him buy into.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...ver-story/

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Reply #1 posted 05/16/12 10:04pm

Gunsnhalen

If one more fucking person had to be compared to Michael Jackson lol I swear.....

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Reply #2 posted 05/17/12 1:34am

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I am determined to make a lasting impact in his face


What has he done (musically) that actually warrants the media circus around him?, I read in some other thread he sits in at writing sessions. WOW, what a fucking genius, he sits in at writing sessions. Just like Keith Richards sat down at writing sessions with Jagger I think not.

He is the new Ricky Nelson and will be remembered in the same way, a more sacharrine family friendly and less talented version of his predecessors and contempories.

I don't even hate the guy or his music, but the media circus kicked up over everything he does would lead you to believe he just released the next "Thriller".

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Reply #3 posted 05/17/12 6:06pm

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First step in making a lasting impact is to have more than one song that can be remembered ny non-fans for more than 4 months.

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Reply #4 posted 05/17/12 6:12pm

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Too bad Austin Brown isn't 10 years younger so he could make Bieber disappear.

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Reply #5 posted 05/17/12 6:15pm

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First step in making a lasting impact is to have more than one song that can be remembered ny non-fans for more than 4 months.

One song? I've never heard a full Bieber track, not sure what the song was titled but it was 2 minutes of wack. He seems like a nice dude but the little I've heard of his work was piffle.

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Reply #6 posted 05/17/12 6:16pm

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He might be determined to, but that doesn't mean he WILL.

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Reply #7 posted 05/17/12 6:17pm

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ForgottenPassword said:

aardvark15 said:

First step in making a lasting impact is to have more than one song that can be remembered ny non-fans for more than 4 months.

One song? I've never heard a full Bieber track, not sure what the song was titled but it was 2 minutes of wack. He seems like a nice dude but the little I've heard of his work was piffle.

Baby. That's the only song I know by him and the only song I hope to know by him.

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Reply #8 posted 05/17/12 6:22pm

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I pray that duet with ELVIS never comes out. Please oh please. I bet he ends up being an actor and will flop when the next big thing comes out. Eh wish him well, but he can't sing.

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Reply #9 posted 05/17/12 11:16pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/12 8:01am

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You go Bieb. biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 05/18/12 10:27am

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Like a meteor. lol

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/12 11:16am

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Justin Bieber is the King of Pop and all of you will deal.

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Reply #13 posted 05/18/12 4:37pm

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My sister told me she went to senior high school with his uncle back in the day.

I was like eek wow.

Cannot stand the Bieber ............

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Reply #14 posted 05/18/12 4:52pm

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^^^Here I thought you were gonna close this useless thread. sad

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JoeBala said:

^^^Here I thought you were gonna close this useless thread. sad

lol

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Reply #16 posted 05/18/12 4:55pm

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Yup the first idol to make jail look cool. razz Yeah before all these rap artists too. smile

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Reply #17 posted 05/18/12 9:24pm

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My sister told me she went to senior high school with his uncle back in the day.

I was like eek wow.

Cannot stand the Bieber ............

Someone I know went to the same annual festivals at Stratford like he did, though the one in Calgary, and did not have good things to say about him from hearsay.

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purplethunder3121 said:



Add this one as well...

Check me out and add me on:
www.last.fm/user/brandosoul
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/12 11:43pm

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^^^Oh no you didn't. Ice Ice melt! razz

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Reply #20 posted 05/19/12 1:31am

Azz

I'm still laughing at 16 year old Bieber's comment to his manager whilst watching Madonna talking about MJ's lack of childhood.

Not to mention his reasoning behind getting a tattoo of Jesus on his leg.

And his view on his future musical career

The people are around him are delusional, 'half alien, half human'. Please.

He is an awful singer, not to mention his dancing ability lol

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Reply #21 posted 05/19/12 9:40pm

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Justin Bieber, who is currently going around the world previewing his next album Believe, has gotten himself into a bunch of hot water recently by offending people in the countries he's visiting.

On April 25, according to Metro, Bieber mocked the English accent during an interview about Believe. He answered a question with an English accent and then told the interviewer, "It’s 'think' with a 'th,' not an 'f'," mocking what he considers an English speech tendency.

Then, when the interviewer asked him where he recorded some of Believe, he totally forgot the answer. He described the location as "some random country" before his manager jumped in and said "Indonesia," which is a country of 240 million people. Bieber continued, "I recorded it in a studio. Some little place. They didn't know what they were doing."

Wow. Not expecting him to sell many albums in the UK and Indonesia.

What a dumbass lol

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Reply #22 posted 05/19/12 9:44pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Justin Bieber, who is currently going around the world previewing his next album Believe, has gotten himself into a bunch of hot water recently by offending people in the countries he's visiting.

On April 25, according to Metro, Bieber mocked the English accent during an interview about Believe. He answered a question with an English accent and then told the interviewer, "It’s 'think' with a 'th,' not an 'f'," mocking what he considers an English speech tendency.

Then, when the interviewer asked him where he recorded some of Believe, he totally forgot the answer. He described the location as "some random country" before his manager jumped in and said "Indonesia," which is a country of 240 million people. Bieber continued, "I recorded it in a studio. Some little place. They didn't know what they were doing."

Wow. Not expecting him to sell many albums in the UK and Indonesia.

What a dumbass lol

Someone should have dangled him on a Berlin balcony...it would have given him some sense

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Gunsnhalen said:

Justin Bieber, who is currently going around the world previewing his next album Believe, has gotten himself into a bunch of hot water recently by offending people in the countries he's visiting.

On April 25, according to Metro, Bieber mocked the English accent during an interview about Believe. He answered a question with an English accent and then told the interviewer, "It’s 'think' with a 'th,' not an 'f'," mocking what he considers an English speech tendency.

Then, when the interviewer asked him where he recorded some of Believe, he totally forgot the answer. He described the location as "some random country" before his manager jumped in and said "Indonesia," which is a country of 240 million people. Bieber continued, "I recorded it in a studio. Some little place. They didn't know what they were doing."

Wow. Not expecting him to sell many albums in the UK and Indonesia.

What a dumbass lol

Sounds like Vadge.

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Reply #24 posted 05/19/12 10:19pm

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lazycrockett said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Justin Bieber, who is currently going around the world previewing his next album Believe, has gotten himself into a bunch of hot water recently by offending people in the countries he's visiting.

On April 25, according to Metro, Bieber mocked the English accent during an interview about Believe. He answered a question with an English accent and then told the interviewer, "It’s 'think' with a 'th,' not an 'f'," mocking what he considers an English speech tendency.

Then, when the interviewer asked him where he recorded some of Believe, he totally forgot the answer. He described the location as "some random country" before his manager jumped in and said "Indonesia," which is a country of 240 million people. Bieber continued, "I recorded it in a studio. Some little place. They didn't know what they were doing."

Wow. Not expecting him to sell many albums in the UK and Indonesia.

What a dumbass lol

Sounds like Vadge.

Well there both not the brightest pop stars razz

Not a big Vadge madge fan but i can admit to liking ROL.. But her whole spiritual thing around the time. Was one of the biggest loads of bullshit i have ever heard from someone who is not Prince lol

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Reply #25 posted 05/19/12 10:55pm

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^Oh i was talking bout the fake as bullshit accent. The one that the talentless whore was using for the 90s and early 00's. smile

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Reply #26 posted 05/20/12 12:57am

Gunsnhalen

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^Oh i was talking bout the fake as bullshit accent. The one that the talentless whore was using for the 90s and early 00's. smile

OMG lol

That was...............................................

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Idk what her defense was, cause she lived with a british man? cause she lived outside the states? neutral

I hangout on a weekly basis with people who have different accents.. but i still sound the same lol

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Reply #27 posted 05/20/12 8:52am

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Gunsnhalen said:

lazycrockett said:

^Oh i was talking bout the fake as bullshit accent. The one that the talentless whore was using for the 90s and early 00's. smile

OMG lol

That was...............................................

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Idk what her defense was, cause she lived with a british man? cause she lived outside the states? neutral

I hangout on a weekly basis with people who have different accents.. but i still sound the same lol

Johnny Depp does the same thing and I don't see anyone complaining

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Reply #28 posted 05/20/12 9:41am

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Exciting. neutral

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