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Reply #90 posted 05/22/12 5:46pm

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Reply #91 posted 05/22/12 6:48pm

tmo1965

NaughtyKitty said:

musicjunky318 said:

The TMZ staff is talking shit right now about her performance. They're saying Elvis is rolling his grave.

Ah, you're listening to TMZ Live too eh? I'm surprised they're doggin her like that. I didnt think it was all that bad.

I thought it was pretty good too. I can tell that she's been working on her vocals.

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Reply #92 posted 05/22/12 6:56pm

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HAPPYPERSON said:

her manager is the producer of American idol

Well she's similar to J LO in age. I guess if you've been around a long time and are still the same age as somoene popular, you're seen as older....

Yes. I think the age thing has a lot to do with how she's being received. I'm in my 40's and I think she's alright, at least on this one song. She has name recognition with my generation, but my kids don't know who she is. She should have started her career in her teens. She probably would have made it big then, and still be in mix now. The album er CD should be marketed to the 35 and over crowd.

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Reply #93 posted 05/22/12 10:36pm

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tmo1965 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Ah, you're listening to TMZ Live too eh? I'm surprised they're doggin her like that. I didnt think it was all that bad.

I thought it was pretty good too. I can tell that she's been working on her vocals.

You know, if you think about it she can't win for losing. No matter what people would always try to find a way to say she doesn't match up to her dad. Even if she sounded like Mariah Carey they'd still say that shit.

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Reply #94 posted 05/23/12 9:59am

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tmo1965 said:

I thought it was pretty good too. I can tell that she's been working on her vocals.

You know, if you think about it she can't win for losing. No matter what people would always try to find a way to say she doesn't match up to her dad. Even if she sounded like Mariah Carey they'd still say that shit.

maybe yes, maybe no.

when she first came out in 2000(?), i was lurking on some thread and the discussion was about why her first album had pretty much flopped given the massive promotion (vh1 profile, rolling stone cover, critical approval if not acclaim, diane sawyer interview).

the general consensus seemed to be that aside from the controversy of having married mj - which to a lot of elvis fans was the ultimate 'betrayal' of her father - here was a woman who hadn't paid any dues. she was in her mid-30s, and had never toured or sang in front of an audience, (and wasn't all that good when she finally did), but she was allowed to start at the very top, in terms of media access and attention. none of it was based on what she had accomplished but what her father had. even now, in that l.a. times article posted above, t-bone burnett states he wanted to produce something elvis would have dug. the man's been dead nearly 35 years; what's he got to do with anything?

but it's this type of treatment that those posters were alluding to. lmp was seen by them as a dilitante(sp?), who when she isn't "playing pop star" or whatever lives in fabulous wealth and has all of this superstar level treatment at her feet not because of anything she's done, but only because who her father was. they were turned off by it all, and i think that generally remains the case.

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Reply #95 posted 05/23/12 1:56pm

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I really don't think it's fair on her though. She could have started in her 20s, but she was a young mother at the time and from what I gather a good one.

I dont think she's a great live singer/performer, but I can think of dozens of female singers that aren't either and are more succesful. It also couldn't have helped that when her debut album was released it was bang in the middle of MJ's arrest & trial so aside from Elvis she was getting questions about him too with little attention to the music.

Sure there's nepotism involved with the attention she got on the launch of her first album, but that's not unique. How many acting dynasties are there with big families and only one particular major talent? Or what about pop singers and stand-up comedians getting acting roles in huge blockbusters without having proven themselves first?

I think the criticism is just because her links are bigger than anyone else can lay claim to, but take the fame and success of her family/spouses down a few notches and she'd have had the same doors opened to her, just without the baggage.

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Reply #96 posted 05/23/12 7:44pm

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kibbles said:

Dren5 said:

You know, if you think about it she can't win for losing. No matter what people would always try to find a way to say she doesn't match up to her dad. Even if she sounded like Mariah Carey they'd still say that shit.

maybe yes, maybe no.

when she first came out in 2000(?), i was lurking on some thread and the discussion was about why her first album had pretty much flopped given the massive promotion (vh1 profile, rolling stone cover, critical approval if not acclaim, diane sawyer interview).

the general consensus seemed to be that aside from the controversy of having married mj - which to a lot of elvis fans was the ultimate 'betrayal' of her father - here was a woman who hadn't paid any dues. she was in her mid-30s, and had never toured or sang in front of an audience, (and wasn't all that good when she finally did), but she was allowed to start at the very top, in terms of media access and attention. none of it was based on what she had accomplished but what her father had. even now, in that l.a. times article posted above, t-bone burnett states he wanted to produce something elvis would have dug. the man's been dead nearly 35 years; what's he got to do with anything?

but it's this type of treatment that those posters were alluding to. lmp was seen by them as a dilitante(sp?), who when she isn't "playing pop star" or whatever lives in fabulous wealth and has all of this superstar level treatment at her feet not because of anything she's done, but only because who her father was. they were turned off by it all, and i think that generally remains the case.

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I don't buy any of this shit at all - considering how there's been tons of overnight sensations that have paid little to no dues, over the course of modern music history.

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Reply #97 posted 05/23/12 9:33pm

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the controversy of having married mj - which to a lot of elvis fans was the ultimate 'betrayal' of her father

The number of Elvis fans who felt that way was miniscule compared to the number of people who believe (or hoped) Elvis fans felt that way.

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Reply #98 posted 05/24/12 9:45am

kibbles

Eileen said:

kibbles said:

the controversy of having married mj - which to a lot of elvis fans was the ultimate 'betrayal' of her father

The number of Elvis fans who felt that way was miniscule compared to the number of people who believe (or hoped) Elvis fans felt that way.

hey, i'm just stating what the posters on that thread stated. they didn't like mj, felt that she had disgraced her father's memory, and even more than that, they questioned her being given the royal treatment when they didn't think it was warranted or deserved.

whatever the reasons, whether you think she deserves it, or doesn't deserve it more than others, lmp is fighting an uphill battle. witness the comments on this thread.

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Reply #99 posted 05/24/12 11:34am

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lmp is fighting an uphill battle.


Couldn't agree more, you got no argument from me there.

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Reply #100 posted 05/24/12 6:01pm

lexe

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The TMZ staff is talking shit right now about her performance. They're saying Elvis is rolling his grave.

[Edited 5/24/12 18:21pm]

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Reply #101 posted 05/28/12 10:34am

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lexe said:

musicjunky318 said:

The TMZ staff is talking shit right now about her performance. They're saying Elvis is rolling his grave.

[Edited 5/24/12 18:21pm]

What kind of BS is that. "I can accept lipsynching from J-Lo." I think anyone who makes a LIVING on singing, should be judged the same way. Plus, how can those losers who make a living on bitching people have the nerve to criticise anyone.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #102 posted 05/28/12 1:36pm

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Timmy84 said:



musicjunky318 said:



The TMZ staff is talking shit right now about her performance. They're saying Elvis is rolling his grave.



TMZ wouldn't know talent if it came oozing out of their asses...


What r u talking about...that's the very talent they put on tv!

doody


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Reply #103 posted 05/29/12 4:06pm

mookie

Lisa Marie Presley announces tour dates

Lisa Marie Presley will kick off her first tour in more than five years on June 14 at Gramercy Theatre in New York City.

Presley's tour is in support of her new album, Storm & Grace.

She has celebrated the album's release with a CD signing at Sun Studios in her hometown of Memphis, an evening at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles and numerous television appearances, includingAmerican Idol.

The dates:

6/14 - New York - Gramercy Theatre

6/15 - Baltimore - Soundstage

6/16 - Boston - Wilbur Theatre

6/18 - Des Moines - Wooly's

6/19 - Minneapolis - Fine Line Music Cafe

6/20 - Chicago - Bottom Lounge

6/21 - Indianapolis - Deluxe

6/25 - San Francisco - Slim's

6/26 - Los Angeles - The Roxy

6/27 - San Diego - Belly Up

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