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Reply #30 posted 05/16/12 5:10pm

NaughtyKitty

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musicjunky318 said:

I actually think if Lisa came out in the 70s she would have been huge. Her father was fresh in everybody's minds, she was young & marketable, attractive. I mean look at Miley Cyrus. You don't think all the Elvis stans could have done the same for his daughter?

She could have been an enormous teen idol.

Lisa was born in 1968 so....maybe if she had been born a lot earlier she could have released some stuff in the 70s. Or she could have started really young like her future ex-husband MJ and maybe had some hits and be a pre-teen idol lol

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Reply #31 posted 05/16/12 5:22pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

musicjunky318 said:

I actually think if Lisa came out in the 70s she would have been huge. Her father was fresh in everybody's minds, she was young & marketable, attractive. I mean look at Miley Cyrus. You don't think all the Elvis stans could have done the same for his daughter?

She could have been an enormous teen idol.

Lisa was born in 1968 so....maybe if she had been born a lot earlier she could have released some stuff in the 70s. Or she could have started really young and maybe had some hits and be a pre-teen idol lol

Elvis died in 77 right? So she was 9. You could have gave her about 4 more years. An early 80s star easily. Who was out around 81 that was young?

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Reply #32 posted 05/16/12 5:30pm

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musicjunky318 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Lisa was born in 1968 so....maybe if she had been born a lot earlier she could have released some stuff in the 70s. Or she could have started really young and maybe had some hits and be a pre-teen idol lol

Elvis died in 77 right? So she was 9. You could have gave her about 4 more years. An early 80s star easily. Who was out around 81 that was young?

Yep she was 9 when he died in 77. She could have come out and did something in the 80s, I know the press would have been all over her and people would've been really interested in seeing what she could do performance wise.

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Reply #33 posted 05/16/12 5:34pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

musicjunky318 said:

Elvis died in 77 right? So she was 9. You could have gave her about 4 more years. An early 80s star easily. Who was out around 81 that was young?

Yep she was 9 when he died in 77. She could have come out and did something in the 80s, I know the press would have been all over her and people would've been really interested in seeing what she could do performance wise.

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Reply #34 posted 05/16/12 5:43pm

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The numbers for Garbage are a little misleading. Right now, it's only out on itunes. I'm a huge fan but I haven't bought it yet because I really want the physical. I don't know why they didn't release both in the same week to get a higher debut. You can hear the record at spin.com. It's a fantastic return for them.

Lisa Marie's new album got terrible reviews, as compared to her first record that was very critically acclaimed. I think people might have given her a chance if they heard good things about it, but I don't think many people are going to buy it on her name alone.

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Reply #35 posted 05/16/12 6:07pm

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alphastreet said:

Sorry, but with the numbers Prince does, I don't think Prince fans should be one to talk.

Dont act like Prince didnt rule the world as compared to Lisa Marie ruling not a damn thing. Prince fans SHOULD and CAN talk.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #36 posted 05/16/12 6:34pm

HAPPYPERSON

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Nobody takes Lisa Marie seriously.She's just Elvis' daughter and MJ's first wife.That's what she'll always be known as.I don't know why she even bothers making albums.It's not like she needs the money anyway lol

Click the image to open in full size. lol

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Reply #37 posted 05/16/12 6:41pm

JoeBala

Lisa Marie will be on American Idol tomm. biggrin

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #38 posted 05/16/12 6:52pm

HAPPYPERSON

Lisa Marie Presley rehearses new song 'Over Me' with her band and her husband Michael Lockwood is by her side and he plays the guitar

here's the album version with lyrics

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Reply #39 posted 05/16/12 7:10pm

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JoeBala said:

Lisa Marie will be on American Idol tomm. biggrin

auditioning?

"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #40 posted 05/16/12 7:26pm

JoeBala

o it's not JiM Carreys daughter.

errant said:

JoeBala said:

Lisa Marie will be on American Idol tomm. biggrin

auditioning?

No, It's not Jim Carreys daughter. razz

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #41 posted 05/16/12 8:37pm

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Her new album is amazing and is getting FANTASTIC reviews.

Fuck commercial success.

And fuck the title of this thread.

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Reply #42 posted 05/16/12 9:28pm

Eileen

I don't expect it to be some big pop smash, it's a roots record plus she totes a lot of baggage, but, hate much? The album came out yesterday and the first video just a few hours ago.

The comment about the reviews is just false. It's gotten a couple mediocre reviews and some significant good to excellent reviews. And with all three albums, even those who hack on her tracks credit her as a talented, interesting songwriter.

If anything have to wish her well for finally seeming to have left behind the nasty cult she was handed to as a child by her mom.

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Reply #43 posted 05/16/12 9:35pm

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errant said:

nobody's looking for a Lisa Marie cd.

shit, nobody's looking for any cd this week if Adam Lambert is predicted for #1 with 70,000 copies sold.

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To Whom It May Concern' has one of my favorite songs by a female artist. 'The Road Between.'

I still wear that song out.

I do want to hear this new album.

I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #44 posted 05/16/12 9:38pm

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SUPRMAN said:

errant said:

nobody's looking for a Lisa Marie cd.

shit, nobody's looking for any cd this week if Adam Lambert is predicted for #1 with 70,000 copies sold.

'

To Whom It May Concern' has one of my favorite songs by a female artist. 'The Road Between.'

I still wear that song out.

I do want to hear this new album.

sorry

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Reply #45 posted 05/16/12 9:38pm

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musicjunky318 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Lisa was born in 1968 so....maybe if she had been born a lot earlier she could have released some stuff in the 70s. Or she could have started really young and maybe had some hits and be a pre-teen idol lol

Elvis died in 77 right? So she was 9. You could have gave her about 4 more years. An early 80s star easily. Who was out around 81 that was young?

Stacy Lattisaw. Debbie Gibson, Tiffany

I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #46 posted 05/16/12 9:49pm

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SUPRMAN said:

musicjunky318 said:

Elvis died in 77 right? So she was 9. You could have gave her about 4 more years. An early 80s star easily. Who was out around 81 that was young?

Stacy Lattisaw. Debbie Gibson, Tiffany

Debbie. clapping She had potential to top them all though.

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Reply #47 posted 05/16/12 11:20pm

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Nobody takes Lisa Marie seriously.She's just Elvis' daughter and MJ's first wife.That's what she'll always be known as.I don't know why she even bothers making albums.It's not like she needs the money anyway lol

Some people just like to make music. Not everyone needs to sell stacks of copies to validate their own art. Any true artist understands the burning desire within them to simply create. They MUST do it and that's all there is to it.

Do what the fuck you wanna, Lisa Marie!

Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss...
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Reply #48 posted 05/17/12 12:02am

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I've heard the album and it's actually very strong. All the reviews I've read have been positive, not that it should particularly matter what the critics say.

You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet is one of the strongest singles I've heard in 2012. With the other generic euro-dance shit that's clogging up the charts these days, it baffles me that people are hating on LMP.

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Reply #49 posted 05/17/12 12:51am

mancabdriver

Can we please direct this thread to all the idiots who say Janet is only successful because of her brother?

Sorry i just had to say it... I wont mention it again..

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Reply #50 posted 05/17/12 3:18am

claudiax

It is supposed that these songs are about michael jackson :

I Was Wrong

Written by LMP.


If I told the truth well you wouldn't believe me
You wouldn't believe me at all
I always thought that he never loved me
That he didn't love me at all

I was wrong
I was wrong
He loved me all along
I was wrong

If he told the truth
Then I would never believe him
I wouldn't believe him at all
He said he thought that I didn't love him
That I didn't love him anymore

But he was wrong
He was wrong
I love him now he's gone
He was wrong
He was wrong
I love him now he's gone
He was wrong

Just a Dream

So crucified and a self inflicted mess and
for the life of me I couldn't remember when you weren't a regret
Were you here last night, we fell in love again
or was it just a dream
I've never been that high as when we fell in love
that was not a dream
Un-crucified you came to visit and for the life of I, I
could remember that you were not a regret
Were you here last night we fell in love again
or was it just a dream
I've never been that high as when we fell in love
that was not a dream
Dont want to open my eyes when we fall in love if it's just a dream...


Lisa Marie Presley Storm and Grace Preview:

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Reply #51 posted 05/17/12 5:59am

Ellie

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I bought the album from iTunes and to be honest it's her best effort yet. I really enjoyed it on first listen and the T-Bone Burnett production is very slick.
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Reply #52 posted 05/17/12 6:46am

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claudiax said:

It is supposed that these songs are about michael jackson :

I Was Wrong

Written by LMP.


If I told the truth well you wouldn't believe me
You wouldn't believe me at all
I always thought that he never loved me
That he didn't love me at all

I was wrong
I was wrong
He loved me all along
I was wrong

If he told the truth
Then I would never believe him
I wouldn't believe him at all
He said he thought that I didn't love him
That I didn't love him anymore

But he was wrong
He was wrong
I love him now he's gone
He was wrong
He was wrong
I love him now he's gone
He was wrong

Just a Dream

So crucified and a self inflicted mess and
for the life of me I couldn't remember when you weren't a regret
Were you here last night, we fell in love again
or was it just a dream
I've never been that high as when we fell in love
that was not a dream
Un-crucified you came to visit and for the life of I, I
could remember that you were not a regret
Were you here last night we fell in love again
or was it just a dream
I've never been that high as when we fell in love
that was not a dream
Dont want to open my eyes when we fall in love if it's just a dream...


Interesting. Such a stark contrast from her other songs she wrote about him years ago.

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Reply #53 posted 05/17/12 6:50am

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Better to do a thread on Garbage. Great band.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #54 posted 05/17/12 7:52am

dag

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Haven't bouught the album yet, but I do like some of the songs. As someone already said, definitely better than the dance electronic shit released nowadays. I like her style for this album. Very feminine looking and fit for her age. She surely seems to have grown up.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #55 posted 05/17/12 11:41am

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Lisa Marie Presley tunes in to her roots with ‘Storm & Grace’

With a little help from T Bone Burnett, Lisa Marie Presley gets back to bluesy-country basics in ‘Storm & Grace’ and breaks free from outside expectations.

Lisa Marie Presley
Lisa Marie Presley doesn’t seem to mind that everyone in the penthouse office of Simon Fuller’s XIX Entertainment in West Hollywood can see her when she extends both of her middle fingers in the direction of a reporter.

She used the gesture to exemplify how she felt about being asked to promote a “sexier image” at one point in her career. But for a woman whose life has been defined by public scrutiny, the move spoke volumes. Presley, 44, is done trying to live up to expectations that aren’t her own.

More proof? Her first album in seven years, “Storm & Grace” (out this week) finds Presley singing, “She got no talent of her own, it’s just her name,” on deluxe-edition track “Sticks and Stones,” her voice a painful wail while slide guitars whisk around her like unseen demons. In “Un-Break,” Presley wonders whether she was once a “backstabbing liar” and is only getting what she deserves against the sound of shuffling western-gothic grooves.

The album, her first for Universal Republic, may serve as a career reboot, but it also brings her back to her family roots, pairing her dusty, robust vocals with moody country and blues accents made famous by the Sun Studio recording house that captured the voice of her father. The stripped-down affair is produced by T Bone Burnett, an artist with a reputation for possessing a reverential, encyclopedic view of the American songbook.

It’s a far cry from Presley’s last album — a polished affair marked by glossy, Top 40 guitars and studio-enhanced vocals. “Yeah, I know,” Presley interrupts talk about the slick nature of her last release. “I was behind that. I tried to smooth it over, to hide behind it. I wanted louder guitars. I wanted the vocals tripled. All that.”

“I was insulated,” Presley says of that time, adding that she surrounded herself with a team of friends and employees who told her only what she wanted to hear.

“There was a scene woven around me that I had helped weave,” she says. “It was a personal scene -- employees, friends. It was an entourage. That’s all a big mistake. It’s all the stuff that happens to a typical L.A., high-profile…”

Presley trails off and waves her hand, palm up, as if to say, “You know, that scene.” But no one really does. After all, Elvis, the King of Rock ’n’ Roll, had but one daughter, and it’s not many who see their childhood home in Memphis, Tenn., become an internationally renown tourist attraction. That says nothing of Presley’s penchant for dominating the tabloids in her late 20s and early 30s, largely due to her short-lived marriage to Michael Jackson.

After releasing and promoting “Now What,” Presley embarked on a research project: herself. While certainly not ignorant of what was said and written about her -- specifically the outside expectations of how she was or wasn’t living up to her last name -- Presley says she was shielded from much of it.

“I went through a period where I was so upset at how obscured I had been from all of that,” she says. “I intentionally sought out everything bad that was written about me. If you’re looking for it, you’re going to get it.”

“Storm & Grace” gives it right back. First single “You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet” is a casual statement of defiance, a tough little saunter of a song in which a spiteful Presley talks about bucking the system. Later, the brushed rhythms and echoing chimes of “So Long” seem to emerge from a cemetery fog, with Presley, just above a whisper, telling off “fair-weather friends” and churches that “don’t have a soul.”

Ask Presley, who once spoke openly and favorably of the Church of Scientology, for more details on her lyrics, and she’ll keep things vague. The songs, and particularly the first single, she says, are “about finding out what your mother or your parents or your counselor or your therapist or your teacher or your priest really think about you, and finding out they [don’t think highly] of you, actually.” Her words, however, were a bit more colorful.

When Burnett heard the track “Un-Break,” he agreed to produce the album. “I was struck by how real she was in some of the songs,” he says. “It was sung in an incredibly unaffected way. I love when a singer sings like Sinatra, when it’s conversational. That’s the greatest challenge in singing, and she did that.”

The album was brought to Burnett by Fuller, Presley’s manager who is best-known for creating the “American Idol” franchise but also works with a host of more idiosyncratic artists, including Annie Lennox and local independent R&B singer Aloe Blacc. It was Fuller who encouraged Presley to retreat to England, where she now lives, and suggested she collaborate on songwriting with Pulp guitarist Richard Hawley and singer-songwriter Ed Harcourt.

Presley says it was a conscious effort to avoid her earlier tendency to “jack up” the production. Though she likes the songs on her first two albums, she was uncomfortable with everything that came along with selling them, and now regrets having been placed “in some category with other pop/rock stars.”

“If I’m pushed somewhere,” Presley says, “I’ll go the other way. So when someone came backstage and told me to dress sexy, I went out and wore giant combat boots and safety pins and did whatever I could to not be sexy.”

If the line between Burnett and her father isn’t direct, it does exist. Burnett worked with Elvis contemporary Roy Orbison, and recorded with Elvis’ TCB Band on records he produced with Elvis Costello.

“I have to say, I very much wanted to make a record her dad would have dug,” Burnett says. “That was important to me. I wanted to make a record everybody would dig, but especially him, for some reason. He’s such an inspirational figure. She’s part of our royal family.”

There’s no irony, Burnett says, in Presley retreating to England to reconnect with a sound that draws from her roots. He clarifies that she had to “disconnect with those other American roots,” the ones that encouraged her to chase pop stardom. Presley phrases it as a search for something she’s never really known: normalcy.

“When I moved to England I would hang out at the local pub, and they were such good people there,” Presley says. “They knew right from wrong. If someone came in and was drunk and acting like a jerk, they’d get thrown out. There was common sense. I needed to be around people with common sense.”

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Reply #56 posted 05/17/12 12:00pm

Eileen

Timmy84 said:

I think she was trying to push her music in like '91 or '92 before she dated/married MJ. But yeah I get what you're saying.

She was doing a label deal but backed out due to pregnancy (daughter May 1989, son Oct 1992).

And who knows there may have been some deliberateness, not really feeling ready to put herself out there and carry that weight so publicly. What she mostly did back then was Scientology. sad She did work on music with her first husband too though, that's what they had in common besides the cult.

You can hear some of her first demo in this vid at about 8:45 in -

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Reply #57 posted 05/17/12 12:26pm

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Lisa Marie Presley, on FOX's American Idol tonight at 8 pm, she'll be performing Storm and Grace's first single, "You Aint Seen Nothing Yet."

Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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Reply #58 posted 05/17/12 4:51pm

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I don't think she's TRYING to be a mainstream, Top Ten artist in the first place.

It only qualifies as a flop if you're trying to play that game. She could care less about all that, I think.

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Reply #59 posted 05/17/12 5:07pm

HAPPYPERSON

Dren5 said:

I don't think she's TRYING to be a mainstream, Top Ten artist in the first place.

It only qualifies as a flop if you're trying to play that game. She could care less about all that, I think.

well she was angry with Capitol Records stating that her previous albums didn't reach its potential success due to them not promoting them and got dropped after the second album was released. I think she wanted her albums to have that mainstream success so she could finally get under her father's shadow, i remember in 2008 she stated that somtimes she feel like the only thing she accomplish was being Elvis Presley's child

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